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  On 2/13/2018 at 3:44 AM, LowerSaxony said:

Of course we don't. How could we? But it shows that even later BIBs have a chance to beat Dressen. Btw we do not see around 40% of the course.

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As I said, track has been getting gradually worse, which I think it’s pretty obvious to see. 

 

My point still stands, Hirscher was extremely lucky to get the bib2, it was the best possible bib today for skiers ranked 11-20 on start list rankings.

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  On 2/13/2018 at 3:43 AM, Shiffrin said:

Let me refer to you to the 2nd training where Hirscher was +3.91 seconds behind on this same course, while he may not have been going 100%, it’s still stupid to think his run today wasn’t helped by great conditions as opposed to later bibs.

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I think it's stupid to draw anything from the training runs, the course is completely different + (as Dreßen said before the race) the snow conditions completely changed (much more agressive), but i see that you are not willing to talk about facts, so why not save us both some time?

Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached.
 

 

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  On 2/13/2018 at 3:49 AM, OlympicsFan said:

I think it's stupid to draw anything from the training runs, the course is completely different + (as Dreßen said before the race) the snow conditions completely changed (much more agressive), but i see that you are not willing to talk about facts, so why not save us both some time?

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So you seriously think Hirscher had the same conditions as Kilde, Bennett and Caviezel? :wall:

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  On 2/13/2018 at 3:48 AM, Shiffrin said:

As I said, track has been getting gradually worse, which I think it’s pretty obvious to see.

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Sorry I don't see facts that support your thesis. But you have the right for your own opinion.

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  On 2/13/2018 at 3:50 AM, LowerSaxony said:

Sorry I don't see facts that support your thesis. But you have the right for your own opinion.

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Rewatch the race and also look at the wind that accompanied Bennett and Kilde. I mean even some slalom specialists are in front of Bennett.

 

So how are you going to deny that bib 2 wasn’t better than bibs 14-20

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  On 2/13/2018 at 3:54 AM, Shiffrin said:

Rewatch the race and also look at the wind that accompanied Bennett and Kilde. I mean even some slalom specialists are in front of Bennett.

 

So how are you going to deny that bib 2 wasn’t better than bibs 14-20

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Do you really think that the wind had any influence on the eventual medallists? Do you really think that Hirscher should be much more than 0.2-0.3 s ahead of Hirscher on a course like that? Even if Hirscher and Dreßen both would have been 0.5 seconds slower, than what exactly would have changed? Gold/silver still would have been between Hirscher and Pinturault and bronze probably between Schwarz, Aerni, Muffat-Jandet and maybe someone else. The speed guys never had a medal chance today.

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  On 2/13/2018 at 4:05 AM, dcro said:

Von Appen makes million mistakes and still less than 2 secs behind. Yeah, wind has no influence. :lol:

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Von Appen is a well-known specialist who you'd clearly expect to finish close to the top. Obviously. 

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