Werloc 3,176 Posted December 7, 2024 #61 Share Posted December 7, 2024 (edited) Yup, very nice to see Finland on the podium after so many years since Makarainen's retirement Thought this would happen, just didn't expect it so soon and kinda leaned more towards the men's team. On the other hand, it feels like Preuss is one of the unluckiest biathletes of all time. Not to mention the fact that she is sick every season, she might be up there for most 4th and 5th place finishes of all time and I can guarantee that many of them were lost podiums by just a second Edited December 7, 2024 by Werloc Bohemia and copravolley 2 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28212-biathlon-ibu-world-cup-2024-2025/page/7/#findComment-678972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,176 Posted December 7, 2024 #62 Share Posted December 7, 2024 (edited) Random Preuss stats: 2024/25 Kontiolahti - 5th in Individual, 4th in sprint 0.1s behind third. 2023/24 Oestersund - 2nd in individual 0.1s behind Vittozzi, 4th in sprint 0.7s behind Arnekleiv, 2nd in pursuit 0.3s behind Jeanmonnot Hochfilzen already DNS, because sick. Lenzerheide - 4th in pursuit 2.4s behind Skogan Oberhof - 2nd in sprint 4.4s behind Braisaz Antholz - skips mass start due to not feeling that great Ends her season after Nove Mesto WCH with three world cups to go. 2022/23 Kontiolahti - starts the season with DNS, ill again Skips Pokljuka and Rupholding Doesn't qualify to World Championships, skips the rest of the season 2021/22 Oestersund - 5th in sprint 9.8s behind 3rd, 5th in pursuit 11.8s off 3rd Already DNS in Annecy & missing in Oberhof, Rupholding, Antholz Otepaa - 5th in mass start 3.3s from 3rd Oslo - 2nd in mass start 7.8s behind Braisaz 2020/21 Hochfilzen - 3rd in sprint 9.9s off 1st, 4th in sprint 0.5s behind Roeiseland Oberhof - 2nd in mass start +3.9s behind Simon Antholz - 4th in mass start, 5.5s behind Hauser 5th in Pokljuka 5th in Nove Mesto pursuit, 5.9s away from Roeiseland in 3rd 4th in Nove Mesto sprint, 6.8s behind Wierer, gets 3rd in the pursuit though 3rd in Oestersund, 11.1s behind Tandrevold in 1st 2019/20 Oestersund - 4th in sprint, 7.3s behind Davidova Sick during Oberhof 5th in Pokljuka indvidual, but skips mass start 5th in Antholz Wch individual 3rd in Nove Mesto mass start 2nd in Kontiolahti sprint 20.1s off first 2018/19 Won Rupholding mass start by 0.2 seconds and already sick at the next stage in Antholz Doesn't really do much the rest of the season, but ends with a 2nd place in Oslo. 2017/18 Unsurprisingly to absolutely no one, gets ill at the 2nd stage of the season 4th at the Olympic individual behind Dahlmeier 18.5s off 5th in Tyumen mass start, 9.8s off from 1st 3.2 from 3rd I think I've given enough examples Edited December 7, 2024 by Werloc Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28212-biathlon-ibu-world-cup-2024-2025/page/7/#findComment-678974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,176 Posted December 8, 2024 #63 Share Posted December 8, 2024 Ingrid Tandrevold skips mass start and Hochfilzen due to her heart issues. Ted, Bohemia and Gianlu33 3 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28212-biathlon-ibu-world-cup-2024-2025/page/7/#findComment-679001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 325 Posted December 8, 2024 #64 Share Posted December 8, 2024 (edited) Perrot was still a bit worse than Giacomel last year and where is he now? It's a waste of time. And we are so far behind in almost every winter sport that France is outclassing us: all the disciplines of classic skiing, biathlon, men's alpine skiing, etc. And even where we're better, we don't have any chance against other powerhouses, like luge, short-track, speed skating. We can only count on individuals: Ghiotto, Sighel, Goggia, Brignone or Vittozzi, some of whom are over 30. In France there's an effective system and here we're counting on a star like Tomba or Sinner appearing in every sport. Otherwise we can't be competitive anywhere, no matter if it's summer or winter sports. And the winter sports hurt even more because we have the Olympics in Cortina in 1 year Edited December 8, 2024 by copravolley Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28212-biathlon-ibu-world-cup-2024-2025/page/7/#findComment-679017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,176 Posted December 8, 2024 #65 Share Posted December 8, 2024 On 12/8/2024 at 2:45 PM, copravolley said: Perrot was still a bit worse than Giacomel last year and where is he now? It's a waste of time. And we are so far behind in almost every winter sport that France is outclassing us: all the disciplines of classic skiing, biathlon, men's alpine skiing, etc. And even where we're better, we don't have any chance against other powerhouses, like luge, short-track, speed skating. We can only count on individuals: Ghiotto, Sighel, Goggia, Brignone or Vittozzi, some of whom are over 30. In France there's an effective system and here we're counting on a star like Tomba or Sinner appearing in every sport. Otherwise we can't be competitive anywhere, no matter if it's summer or winter sports. And the winter sports hurt even more because we have the Olympics in Cortina in 1 year Expand Perrot was 11th, a mere 60 points behind Giacomel and he won a race as well. It was already kinda clear he was aiming to be a world class athlete. What's stopping Giacomel right now? He's missing targets, just like Ponsiluoma. If they shoot well, they're definitely podium material, so I really don't understand your negativity Gianlu33 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28212-biathlon-ibu-world-cup-2024-2025/page/7/#findComment-679023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 325 Posted December 9, 2024 #66 Share Posted December 9, 2024 Vittozzi will not return until the New Year. This definitely means the end of her chances to defend the World Cup. This season has started badly for us and the absence of Vittozzi only intensifies this impression. Only Wierer's improving form is some kind of positive. https://www.fondoitalia.it/2024/12/09/notizie/argomenti/biathlon/articolo/biathlon-lisa-vittozzi-non-rientra-lazzurra-salta-anche-hochfilzen.html Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28212-biathlon-ibu-world-cup-2024-2025/page/7/#findComment-679074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 325 Posted December 9, 2024 #67 Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/8/2024 at 11:45 AM, Werloc said: Ingrid Tandrevold skips mass start and Hochfilzen due to her heart issues. Expand I think that in Italy she wouldn't even get the chance to start in the World Cup in her condition. We have much more restrictive regulations than other countries, which has its advantages and disadvantages. In her case, it would probably be better to stop for a while, instead of starting and withdrawing. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28212-biathlon-ibu-world-cup-2024-2025/page/7/#findComment-679075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailer 21 Posted December 9, 2024 #68 Share Posted December 9, 2024 Well can it potentially lead to a career end? Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28212-biathlon-ibu-world-cup-2024-2025/page/7/#findComment-679084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 325 Posted December 9, 2024 #69 Share Posted December 9, 2024 On 12/9/2024 at 2:56 PM, Bailer said: Well can it potentially lead to a career end? Expand Vittozzi or Tandrevold? Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28212-biathlon-ibu-world-cup-2024-2025/page/7/#findComment-679088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,903 Posted December 9, 2024 #70 Share Posted December 9, 2024 Whoever thought of having a Mass Start already in the first round gets onto the list of "genius sporting scheduling" of the year. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/28212-biathlon-ibu-world-cup-2024-2025/page/7/#findComment-679093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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