Athletes from other Countries that you will root against at the Summer Olympic Games Paris 2024

[intoronto 5,645]

1 hour ago, hckošice said:

Yeah, and for that among the plans with W C1 were also the "promised attempt to develop" W C2 or as plan B the Mixed C2 to save the pinnacle of the sport the C2, but it did not work well for a certain paddler, so suddenly and silently the plan was removed and C2 entirely sacrified (even if the mixed C2 program started and was in the schedule of WC and major events and retransformed paddlers did not know about that, believing it is safe and started to focus on this new event), everything suddenly changed C2 was cut and every energy and sources were pushed only for the W C1 to become a main event despite having horrendous level, except for a certain paddler who obviously started to dominate the event by huge gap

Keep in mind the ICF was told by the IOC it could not add additional events (which is why we saw 2 sprint events dropped for extreme events). So this would have been the logical step (dropping C2 and adding C1 women) to get equality. It's ofc a BS thing the IOC did.

[Dkats 296]

3 hours ago, intoronto said:

I highly doubt the Foxes were the reason why C2 was dropped.

It was the IOC's push to have gender equality.

 

If there was a woman’s C2 event she would probably compete with her sister Naomi. 
But at the end of the day why would there be 3 men’s slalom events and only 1 female event, so the changes they made makes sense.

 

[hckošice 14,835]

2 hours ago, intoronto said:

Keep in mind the ICF was told by the IOC it could not add additional events (which is why we saw 2 sprint events dropped for extreme events). So this would have been the logical step (dropping C2 and adding C1 women) to get equality. It's ofc a BS thing the IOC did.

At that time nobody new events will be dropped to be replaced by kayak cross, at that time kayak cross did not even existed.

 

 

50 minutes ago, Dkats said:

 

If there was a woman’s C2 event she would probably compete with her sister Naomi. 
But at the end of the day why would there be 3 men’s slalom events and only 1 female event, so the changes they made makes sense.

 

Yes but she would not medal in this case, they would hardly even finish a race without drowing. C2 and Naomi´s K1 are two different worlds.

 

It depend from which point of view you look at it. This does not make sense from sporting view, C2 is (well sorry, Was) the most demanding discipline for coordination, strength, technique and skill, it requires a long preparation and a crew of the same quality level. it was the top event of the sport. Womens C1 was a joke event (at that time like today Kayak Cross).

 

 

 

[hckošice 14,835]

I really don´t know why I am wasting my time and mood with these discussions. all, simply because I dared not to like an athlete at least 3 quarters of that sport comunity dislike

 

I´m done with this, I have anther things to do, so sorry for shocking your souls by disliking one Australian athlete I will go to confession one of those Sundays to repent, Long live to W C1 and Kayak Crosses the new bright future of the sport and to Agenda 2020, the best thing which happened to the world of Olympics.

 

We fine now ?

Edited July 7 by hckošice

[De_Gambassi 1,223]

9 hours ago, NearPup said:

The big question I have is why the women’s C-2 (and C-1) events weren’t fully developed in the 90s or early 2000s?

 

The men’s C-1 and C-2 were inevitably going to disappear from the Olympics without a women’s counterpart, this was a really predictable consequence, and I honestly don’t understand why more wasn’t done to safeguard the C-2 event from this fate. Is it just incompetence on the ICF’s part? They suffered more from the gender equality push than any other federation except maybe the UWW, and they seemed to completely inexplicably take the longest to create more opportunities for female athletes.

 

Like I really do not understand why canoeing, of all sports, was among the most complacent when it comes to gender equality concerns.

Because canoeing is a small sport globally and very male oriented (from my own experience in the 90's as a canoe club member, I've never crossed a single girl). That's simply the way it was/is. 

 

Back then, "gender equality" was not a thing in sports discussion. Sure there was a gradual push for more female events, but full "gender equality" was never stated as a end goal. When canoeing slalom was shortly dropped from the Sydney program and again from the Beijing program, it was never because of its gender inequality but because of cost and lack of global reach.

This push for "gender equality" was very sudden and for a sport like canoeing it was basically impossible to reach without massive compromissions in such a short time.

[heywoodu 15,145]

13 hours ago, phelps said:

 

however, keeping things in sport terms, even if there's no hate, everytime I see *  and  representative lose, I'm really happy  

 

*except for Jutta, of course 

What's up with these 'I cheer against a certain flag' things some people often seem to have?  

 

I mean, where did the heart for sports go: cheering for (or against) certain athletes because you like (or dislike) the athlete, no matter where they're from? There's no doubt athletes who I find to be assholes, from my country and others, and athletes who I find to be awesome people, from my country and others, does the little flag really matter that much? Someone who one would consider an amazing athlete and great person can't be cheered for, because the flag is wrong? Come on  

 

Oddly, I can understand cheering for certain countries (due to family ties, nice memories, potential historical results, etc) more than cheering against certain countries  

 

Edit: to clarify, this was not specifically directed at anyone in particular, I notice the same thing on every kind of sports forum, both here and the Dutch ones  

Edited July 7 by heywoodu

[RussB 189]

15 hours ago, TeamGB said:

I’ll give it a go, but I’d rather talk about the athletes I would be supporting instead.

 

 The entite swimming team.

 - Lilly King + Ryan Murphy - Sending out accusations of other athletes doping is not OK in my book.

Any of the shouty badminton players

 - Sha Carri Richardson

 - Jakob Ingebritzen

Any Naturalised Athletes

 - Simone Biles

Anyone whose fans do the really annoying shrill whistle

 

 

 

Josh beating Jakob would be one of my favourite moment of the games if it happens …

[heywoodu 15,145]

15 hours ago, TeamGB said:

Any Naturalised Athletes

Like, literally, no matter the reason?  

[De_Gambassi 1,223]

2 hours ago, heywoodu said:

What's up with these 'I cheer against a certain flag' things some people often seem to have?  

 

I mean, where did the heart for sports go: cheering for (or against) certain athletes because you like (or dislike) the athlete, no matter where they're from? There's no doubt athletes who I find to be assholes, from my country and others, and athletes who I find to be awesome people, from my country and others, does the little flag really matter that much? Someone who one would consider an amazing athlete and great person can't be cheered for, because the flag is wrong? Come on  

 

Oddly, I can understand cheering for certain countries (due to family ties, nice memories, potential historical results, etc) more than cheering against certain countries  

 

Edit: to clarify, this was not specifically directed at anyone in particular, I notice the same thing on every kind of sports forum, both here and the Dutch ones  

How do you judge the likeness of 10,500 athletes ? At the end, whatever might be the criteria (flag or otherwise) it's very, very superficial. And you wouldn't have the olympics - or any spectators sport for that matter - if it was not for the guys cheering for a flag (or against).  

[heywoodu 15,145]

34 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

How do you judge the likeness of 10,500 athletes ? At the end, whatever might be the criteria (flag or otherwise) it's very, very superficial. And you wouldn't have the olympics - or any spectators sport for that matter - if it was not for the guys cheering for a flag (or against).  

You don't, which is why for a very large majority of events (except those in which I do have my own favourites) I'm happy as long as the competition was good, no matter which flag happens to be behind the name  

 

By the way, not saying one way or another is wrong, just that certain things I find difficult to understand personally. In the end everyone should of course just cheer for whoever they want and no matter the reason.

Edited July 7 by heywoodu