Aurora Games 2019

[dcro 10,210]

Just now, heywoodu said:

When there are more chances, I'm sure even more girls will start participating in sports. I think the biggest battles in that regard are already behind us though, the bigger thing to change in my opinion would be to stop having special 'light' events for women (like the heptathlon instead of the decathlon). I'm sure everyone should at the very least have the chance to compete in the same discipline?

 

Then change the whole biathlon and cross-country skiing program. Although, I believe the distances are different in order to have similar length time-wise.

[heywoodu 15,145]

Just now, dcro said:

 

Then change the whole biathlon and cross-country skiing program. 

I would very strongly be in favor of that, yes

[Olympian1010 7,977]

Just now, heywoodu said:

When there are more chances, I'm sure even more girls will start participating in sports. I think the biggest battles in that regard are already behind us though, the bigger thing to change in my opinion would be to stop having special 'light' events for women (like the heptathlon instead of the decathlon). I'm sure everyone should at the very least have the chance to compete in the same discipline?

I’d say we’re still in the rough when it comes to gender equality. Laws have been changed and events have been added, but attitudes almost most of the male populations and older female populations hasn’t. That’s a serious issue. Women are still heavily discouraged from playing sports for many different reasons. 

Yes, the “light” need to be replaced with “real” ones.

[Olympian1010 7,977]

Just now, heywoodu said:

I would very strongly be in favor of that, yes

I would as well.

[dcro 10,210]

Just now, heywoodu said:

I would very strongly be in favor of that, yes

 

And how would that make things more fair in reality? With the same distance, women would need more time to cover the length, meaning that more time could be gained and lost in the skiing part of biathlon. Shooting in mass start would become even more useless.

[Olympian1010 7,977]

Just now, dcro said:

 

And how would that make things more fair in reality? With the same distance, women would need more time to cover the length, meaning that more time could be gained and lost in the skiing part of biathlon. Shooting in mass start would become even more useless.

Until the level would get to that point. I also think underestimating any athletes ability to shoot well in a mass start. It’s not like the men’s races are ultra close either. The level would rise over time for the women and eventually the distance would feel normal. The “women can’t handle long distances” argument is so old, actually very untrue. Their bodies are better made for endurance than men’s are.

[heywoodu 15,145]

Just now, Olympian1010 said:

Until the level would get to that point. I also think underestimating any athletes ability to shoot well in a mass start. It’s not like the men’s races are ultra close either. The level would rise over time for the women and eventually the distance would feel normal. The “women can’t handle long distances” argument is so old, actually very untrue. Their bodies are better made for endurance than men’s are.

He actually makes a valid point though and I wish he'd stop asking such difficult questions in the early morning

 

It's not about women being incapable of long distances...I'm sure we here all agree they definitely are.

[heywoodu 15,145]

Ok, not in biathlon then, but in cross-country skiing it shouldn't be a problem

[Olympian1010 7,977]

Just now, heywoodu said:

Ok, not in biathlon then, but in cross-country skiing it shouldn't be a problem

I’m failing to see how it would be a big problem in Biathlon. The IBU is slowly killing then importance of shooting anyways.

[dcro 10,210]

Just now, Olympian1010 said:

Until the level would get to that point. I also think underestimating any athletes ability to shoot well in a mass start. It’s not like the men’s races are ultra close either. The level would rise over time for the women and eventually the distance would feel normal. The “women can’t handle long distances” argument is so old, actually very untrue. Their bodies are better made for endurance than men’s are.

 

Interesting. So it is okay to point out departments where women are better than men, and not vice versa?

 

This matter is not even up for discussion. Female athletes need more time to cover the same distance than male athletes. With the same distances, shooting would be considerably less important in women's biathlon compared to the men's game...

Edited August 22, 2019 by dcro