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  On 7/7/2024 at 3:40 PM, Orangehair43 said:

It shows mainly there is a lack of trust and respect towards the those who make the decisions. We didn’t see this reaction from those left out from the swimming team. 

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You did in the past - very much so. And they were ignored time and time again, and finally they stopped talking about it because they knew it wasn't going to chaNGE.

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  On 7/7/2024 at 7:45 PM, mpjmcevoy said:

You did in the past - very much so. And they were ignored time and time again, and finally they stopped talking about it because they knew it wasn't going to chaNGE.

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It’s hard to see Athletes ever trusting the management because the issues go beyond the selection issues - they are other issues that are causing tensions as well. 
 

I feel like World Athletics will come under pressure as well - is it fair for them to run an invite system and promote that when so many governing bodies don’t agree with if. 

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  On 7/7/2024 at 10:29 PM, Orangehair43 said:

It’s hard to see Athletes ever trusting the management because the issues go beyond the selection issues - they are other issues that are causing tensions as well. 
 

I feel like World Athletics will come under pressure as well - is it fair for them to run an invite system and promote that when so many governing bodies don’t agree with if. 

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'Trust' and 'fair' ain't got nothing to do with it. It is the most fundamental of errors to confuse the verb "should" with the verb "will". Management don't need athletes trust, and have little to no interest in it - so long as Athletes won't act in co-ordinated boycott - and they never will - the powers that be can do what they like; all they need is UK Sports money, and that is the only opinions they will value.

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  On 7/7/2024 at 10:57 PM, mpjmcevoy said:

'Trust' and 'fair' ain't got nothing to do with it. It is the most fundamental of errors to confuse the verb "should" with the verb "will". Management don't need athletes trust, and have little to no interest in it - so long as Athletes won't act in co-ordinated boycott - and they never will - the powers that be can do what they like; all they need is UK Sports money, and that is the only opinions they will value.

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They also need Sponsors through considering the financial mess they in and any bad publicity affects that.

 

I bet they cursed the day the whole current invite system and publicised rankings came in. It makes it a lot harsher to have to decline someone’s invite - particularly if they have also told that person they won’t let them switch to another nation without a three year wait as apparently they have done. 

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  On 7/8/2024 at 2:29 PM, Orangehair43 said:

And there has been speculation that World Atheltics might do away with qualifying times entirely. 

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In which case, UKA like British Swimming, will simply invent their own 'top 8' qualification marks.

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  On 7/8/2024 at 3:29 PM, mpjmcevoy said:

In which case, UKA like British Swimming, will simply invent their own 'top 8' qualification marks.

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Can’t quite do it like Swimming and base it on times and distances at trials as would have to take into account the weather which could have a big impact on if someone can get that time or distance that day. 

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  On 7/8/2024 at 3:46 PM, Orangehair43 said:

Can’t quite do it like Swimming and base it on times and distances at trials as would have to take into account the weather which could have a big impact on if someone can get that time or distance that day. 

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Never bothered them before. Wouldn't bother them again. 

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  On 7/8/2024 at 6:23 PM, mpjmcevoy said:

Never bothered them before. Wouldn't bother them again. 

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Would be very controversial if they did it in terrible weather and left people out on the basis they didn’t hit the time or distance mainly because of the weather. 

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Lina smashes her PB in the 400m flat and goes 50.78.

 

Interesting and welcome boost to the women's 4x4 chances. With the lack of form shown by Ohorougu, the sisters look like joining Amber as pencilled in names for the first choice squad.

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