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one of the most controversial athletes (first) and coaches (then) in T&F history...
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/01/sport/alberto-salazar-athletics-suspension-spt-intl/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/01/athletics-coach-al
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still, until they don't get any of his athletes (even after the end of their career, if it's the case...any referral to Mo Farah and Galen Rupp is purely intentional
), I'm not sure this changes anything...
Well, I feel US wants to play "active" and "fair" country so they needed to blame someone. Not saying that Salazar is clean. But what is more convinient than put the blame on someone who works in US with local athletes but is foreign citizen
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getting a way some blatant doping.
Unfortunately development of some chemicals that improve your body skills is a way faster than development of the technology uncovering it.
has anyways come in the shade a bit, especially regarding male athletes. ...
needs to be investigated thoughout all sport spheres including college sports.
We will see what WADA and other sports organisations can do within next few years. Maybe we will witness the situation when Olympic or world champions in 100m run or 10.000m will be white people cause others, no matter individiuals or national federations, might get ban easily. Just like Russia.
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And again, English speaking countries get away with just warnings... IAAF and WADA are turning a blind eye... if it were a Russian, every single sportsperson would be automatically banned and put under surveillance for the whole Olympic cycle.
Well, I think the organisations have been doing that step by step. Russia, Kenya, soon will be joined by Jamaica, USA, China
Funny, 17 year-old Bianca Williams recieved a "warning" after being tested positive for diuretics that can cover many illegal substances including steroids..... Got it via cold medicine? I highly doubt that.
ExpandWell, the citizens don't belong amongst smart ones. As the country is closed from the outside world, people get easily stupid and naive. All kinds of ppl.
The evidence can be destroyed easily. Those gymasts who competed before Olympics, mostly just Asia, results erased or changed. ID card, birth certificate the same. Nothing unusal even in these days...
Feel really said about these ways. Especially cause my wife is chinese and I know that ppl from her country keep doing that. As US and USSR, Germany were hungry before Velvet revolution and did everything for Olympic success, China has not stopped. And Russia or course. Will see what about following years. About Beijing 2022, I think it will be much better. They changed ways in some sort and instead of illegal practicing they push loads of money for athletes training for the home Olympics. Building places, hiring foreigners for crazy money..... Will see in 2,5 years. I believe they have potential but they must stop with the "old" ways ... Maybe like Russia.... I do everything for success..... Literally...
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Of course slips of the tongue might happen, and someone can always double check registrations for the date of birth in different past competitions (both China and North Korea lost world medals after inconsistencies were found), but I believe in you when you say evidence has been destroyed. China cannot be this dumb once again (they lost the team medal at the 2000 Olympics thanks to extreme dumbness).
Well, the citizens don't belong amongst smart ones. As the country is closed from the outside world, people get easily stupid and naive. All kinds of ppl.
The evidence can be destroyed easily. Those gymasts who competed before Olympics, mostly just Asia, results erased or changed. ID card, birth certificate the same. Nothing unusal even in these days...
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I am kind of disappointed with this explanation. It's not that I'm implying you are lying or anything, it's just that we've had all sorts of rumors for years, and when I thought you had inside information or tangible evidence, you just added more fuel to the rumors, but nothing really concrete.
The scandal about the age of gymnasts in 2008 is some sort of US-fueled conspiracy theory. I don't doubt Chinese gymnasts were underage, but most of the talks after the Olympics come from sore losers who blindly defend the US gymnasts, even though they did not deserve to win the team title that year. I know that underage is underage, so if the Chinese gymnasts were really less than 16, the US should win, but we need evidence.
People who work at those federations know and we have spoken about some stuff. Unfortunately there does not exist any evidence anymore. If somebody wanna try to dig out something .... Might even get people to talk the truth publically but evidence about those Gymnasts was destroyed.
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So....?
Sorry, went to sleep. Well, when you speak to people who work and some spheres. And they tell u what is really happening but nobody can talk about it. If somebody found out, you might ... Ehm..... Let's say .... dissapear.... Typical example of a case is the manipulation with birth dates of chinese gymnasts during Beijing 2008. Many people know nobody can talk about it and outsiders will never find a proof because access everything in English is nearly impossible and many official systems are big mess. And if G-ment corrects some stuff, nobody ever finds out. I also heard that some "doping doctors" are giving under "high supervision" to the athletes some stuff based on chinese medicine//treatmemt ways. That is supposed to be the "grey zone" ...... I don't have any paper proofs, just what I hear from people who work at some certain positions.
And you guys don't even know what is happening all those years in China :-D Since they first went to Olympics.
Russia was found out because the language is just accessible to many people. Even tough the country is trying to cut itself from the world. China? Pity to speak. I have lived here 4 years. And things you find out ..., Well...,.
Margarita Vasilyeva biathlon ... 3 missed doping controls. Stop for 1,5 year from February 4th.
ExpandI’d wouldn’t think so, that had to give on hosting the 2022 Commonwealth Games because they didn’t have enough funding.
The next Olympic bid race is for 2032 by the way. Australia looks almost assured to win.
Would be amazing. Sydney Games were great. Would love to see Straya while Olympics :-)
But the selection will happen some time in 2025, is that right?
Hey guys. I heard some rumours that South African Durban is going join election for 2036 Summer Olympics. Anybody heard about it?
Let me point out something. All these discussions about doping cases are just useless for us. Why? We all gather up here for one reason. We love Olympic spirit, Olympic Games and everything connected with this sport event. This makes us happy, excited, enthusiastic about that. And if we gonna discuss who might have used some substances some time in the past and doubt somebody's results, this is not really gonna help. This may just disgust us from being part of the Olympic community. Let's enjoy people's results and achievements that they have done something incredible. And if they are caught that they achieved something using some banned substances? Well, let's talk about our personal dissapointment but life goes on. There are and there will be many sucessful athletes who compete clean and they can achieve something big.
And just an addition..... As WADA keep widening the list of banned substances. Sooner or later, all athletes will be afraid of eating ANYTHING.
Guys, there are just discussion without any proof. I honestly do not believe that Bolt has ever used any shit on purpose. We would have to be saying that everyone who is world class athletes dops? Anyone who breaks a world record dops? That is just nonsense. Let them be .....
One guy from WADA, forgot the name, said couple months ago that the current status of doping tests is that they catch those "stupid users" who are not careful enough and those, who really use some crap for years and keep winning, might be far ahead the current technology. But of course, this might be just a hoax. But who knows......
ice hockey goalie Ondrej Pavelec has retired at the age of 31. The reason is that no team in NHL is interested in him anymore and he refused to play KHL or Czech league. Opinions?
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yes, but I know for sure that the autograph was thrown away when we did some heavy renovation works (basically now we only have the same walls as 20 years ago)...
I can try some digging in my extras, because I have a feeling I should have one extra piece. I will let you know next week:-)
TABLE TENNIS - WORLD CUP WOMEN - CHENGDU (CHN)
Date: 28-30 September 2018
Status: 75% probability going to collect there
Entry list:
Zhu Yuling, Kasumi Ishikawa, Ding Ning, Cheng I-ching, Miu Hirano, Suh Hyowon, Doo Hoi Kem, Sofia Polcanova, Li Jie, Elizabeta Samara, Zhang Mo, Bernadette Szocs, Chen Szu-Yu, Matilda Ekholm, Georgina Pota, Liu Jia, Dina Meshref, Kim Song I, Wu Yue, Lay Jiang Fang
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Honestly I think that having a thread for autograph collecting for each of the 44 summer sports + 15 winter sports would be a bit too much
But we can start with a single thread and then should the interest get higher we can start splitting threads according to the sports.
That is actually cool point. Will do it this way. I will bring to forum more collectors who might also get involved to other topics. And we will lead this section, and will see if more sections in the future :-)
ExpandI have changed the title so that the thread will not be just about Table Tennis but about all sports
Hi, I talked to admin Kamil, I will create the autograph collecting in every sport. I think this might be better organised. In order of this, I will try to bring more people here and we can share everything about sport events of different sports and where we can catch athletes to ask for autograph. If only 1 topic, it might get messy. I think, if it is for every sport, everybody will become well oriented in all. What do you think?
Guys, if you have any Olympic medalists to offer, I am free to accept any ;-)
ExpandI have many autographs from when I was a young boy collecting them, but I believe none of them are from table tennis players
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Well if you have any autographs which you want to sell or get rid off, you can offer them to me :-) ... I take any Olympic sports :-)
Yeah, for sure, I just wanna devide it into all sports. To make it well-organized. I am starting with table tennis cause I wanna see the reply of others and also it is the closest event I am going to visit.
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Would be very happy to see that.
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