ITG has confirmed that the following sports did not request additional events for Paris 2024: Archery, badminton, basketball, equestrian, football, hockey, rugby, tennis and volleyball.
Those numbers don’t match the information provided by the IOC originally, so either some have rescinded their requests, or they have requested other changes such as quota additions/reduction.
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So they removed the traditional 500 m events to bring in the more "hip and exciting" 200 m events, just to have the same removed after only 2-3 Olympics to bring in the next new "hip and exciting" flavor. And people wonder why ICF are a broke, bottom of the barrel federation in the Olympic family (and probably even outside of it).
I don’t know how much of this is the ICF’s fault. They’ve basically been asked/told to accept these changes by the IOC, or face loosing their place on the Olympic program.
The ICF has it’s faults like every other international sports federation, but I’ve always found the ICF to be one of the better ones. They’ve done a fairly good job of growing the sport the last couple of years. They have a strong World Cup circuit. They broadcast all their major events. I’m not the most familiar with the politics of the ICF, but it seems like they are under good governance. Overall, they’re a solid IF in my opinion.
Canoe has been ever evolving distance wise. Began with 1000m and 10000m races, then 500m races, then 200m races, and now we see the occasional 5000m race at multi-sports games.
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
“The IOC, which is due to confirm the Paris 2024 event programme at its Executive Board meeting next month, has outlined its opposition to new events if they increase the number of athletes but has suggested it is open to their inclusion if it is contested by the same set of competitors.”
Right, and when the ICF proposed a pair of events that would do just that, the IOC told them that they’re losing 12 quotas and won’t be allowed to have any more medal events then they currently have.
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
500*transport*food*beds etc. Would imagine there would be savings, but cutting athletes, which make a part of the games makes 0 sense too me. What should be cut are things like "baskets of seasonal fruit' for each IOC member... etc.
Oh, you mean “the seasonal pastry to be presented to each IOC member upon entry into the country.” How the hell would we have Olympics without those measures!?!
If the fridges weren’t “all filled with Coca Cola products,” the Olympic Games would immeasurably damaged forever!
What insane, outlandish reform will you propose next! Letting people use cards other than Visa to pay for Olympic goods?
“No. Sports, athletes, and spectators must be cut from the Olympic Games if they are too survive.” said the IOC member while trying his second golden watch (got to have one for each hand).
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
Losing 12 isn't so bad... but wtf @ no new events with no new athletes?
Bach needs to go
Right, that’s what pisses me off about this. They followed all of the IOC’s wishes (included more women’s events, tried to make better use of existing venues, came up with medal events that didn’t require additional athletes, etc.), and still got fucked over by them.
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
They have passed a proposal to ask the IOC to include 2 extreme canoe slalom events at Paris 2024. However, the IOC has previously informed the ICF that they will not grant them anymore medals, so the proposal is actually eliminate 2 canoe sprint events and replace them with 2 extreme canoe slalom events
The ICF also revealed that they will lose 12 quotas from Tokyo 2020 to Paris 2024. They also penned an interesting explanation/essay that subtly attacks the IOC’s policies under Bach.
I’ve posted links to the announcement and explain action below.
In theory cross-country can be held in the first week of the games. Remember the Youth Olympics had the cross-country solely composed of those qualified in distance events.
Which is what I considered in my post above.
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I tried figuring out different methods for quota allocation for the Cross Country Relay yesterday. I had the idea that athletes already assigned quotas for the distance races in track could be used to form the teams for the relay (meaning that no additional quotas would be needed, making this a fine addition to the program). However, it just seemed impossible to add the Cross Country Relay without athletes having to sacrifice their results in the individual events. So World Athletics (not IAAF you heathens) would have to get the IOC to add yet more quotas to Athletics. For me, this event isn’t worth adding to the program (which means the IOC will probably add it).
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
Maybe a track built within the Eventing Course (without the jumps obvs) - a MTB track would be very hard. Hill running is a sport in itself, really. Or the golf course perhaps.
Those are very commonly used for cross country in the US.
I will say that the terms “cross country” and “hill running” are pretty much interchangeable in California. Most of the big high school invitationals have decent sized hills on the course. My favorite courses had climbs with 12% grades.
The building an alternate trail for cross country into the Eventing course would be more realistic than using the MTB course. The problem with MTB is that the course is mostly single track, and that wouldn’t work well for cross country.
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
This seems kind of unnecesary to me. At the time there are not 12 good teams in the world
One could argue that adding quotas would encourage nations to improve their programs, thus heightening the standard of play in women’s water polo, and increasing the number of nations involved.
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
Yes, 8 teams is enough for now, better to give those 52 qutoas to bring more quotas in some events in athletics or more events in karate/taekwondo.
There’s currently 10 women’s teams by the way.
We could use those quotas actually give Karate it’s full program of 2 Kata events and 10 Kumite events. Each event should only have 8 entries though, as is tradition for Karate at multi-sports games.
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
This makes sense if UWW asks for women's beach wrestling events, it doesn't mean IOC is going to give that to them.
even though it just came to my mind , maybe they are thinking about using the same female freestyle wrestlers for the beach wrestling ? no more quota but more events, we can't say for certain that IOC won't like such an idea.
It would be smart. You yourself already said there’s already a large crossover between the two.
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
an interview with some Azerbaijani official (also has a position in UWW) made some headlines in wrestling community , that guy claims Greco-Roman will be replaced by Beach Wrestling ! they did that for 2022 YOG and will do the same for 2024 Paris. (according to the Azeri guy)
to me it's really hard to believe that UWW will propose such a thing ! the current UWW president is from Serbia , and in most European countries Greco is more active than freestyle. in fact we usually have more wrestlers in Greco-Roman compeititon comparing to freestyle. replacing this with beach wrestling nonsense is like crime against humanity !
Seems as though I was correct in my original prediction then. Myself and @Vojthas seem to know these federations too well.
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Yeah! Europe has no clue about Snowboard and Freestyle Skiing that’s why they have 21 gold medals in Snowboard and 17 gold medals in Freestyle Skiing!
France shunned these sports so hard they hosted 3 Winter X Games Europe events in Tignes from 2010-2012.
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