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Are you sure of that ? She could be fielded as starter for the mass-start and Lollobrigida would then receive an additional starting spot, as Italy/Rossi is in the reserve list. On the other hand maybe there's a chance Pergher will start both 500 and 1000 and Vigl wouldn't get a spot, though the latter has a slight edge this year over 1km. On the men's side 6 is indeed likely. I guess Rosanelli or Bosa (500), Di Stefano (1000, 1500, MS, TP), Ghiotto (5000, 10000, TP), Malfatti (5000, TP), Lorello (5000, 10000, TP), Giovannini (MS, TP).
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This could have implications towards the "164 entered athletes" limit. If this standard is not reached then quotas will be de-allocated, starting with the 500m and upwards. Austria 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 10 (4-6) Belgium 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 X 13 6 Canada 3 2 2 1 1 2 3 3 3 3 2 2 X 15 15 China 3 2 3 1 2 X 3 3 3 1 1 2 X 15 (15) Czech Republic 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 8 (3) Denmark 2 1 1 1 5 (1-2) Estonia 1 1 2 (1) France 1 1 1 2 X 1 7 6 Germany 3 3 3 2 X 1 1 1 1 1 2 X 15 (12-15) Great Britain 1 1 2 (1) Hungary 1 1 2 (1) Individual Neutral Athletes 2 1 1 3 (3) Italy 1 1 1 3 2 1 X 1 1 1 1 1 1 14 (10-14) Japan 3 3 3 1 1 X 3 3 3 1 2 X 14 14 Kazakhstan 1 2 2 2 2 1 1 X 9 5 Netherlands 3 3 3 3 2 2 X 3 3 3 3 2 2 X 18 18 Norway 3 1 3 3 2 1 X 1 1 1 1 1 13 (8-11) Poland 3 3 1 1 3 2 1 11 9 Portugal 1 1 (0-1) South Korea 3 2 2 3 2 1 2 9 (9) Spain 1 1 2 (1) Switzerland 1 1 1 1 2 6 (4) Chinese Taipei 1 1 (1) United States 3 3 3 1 1 2 X 2 2 2 2 X 14 13 Second to last column is the maximum number of athletes NOC can enter, last column is the actual number they entered or (will enter) in my opinion. So if I'm correct in my assumptions and in the best case scenario 160 skaters will get a spot. No deallocation needed. This includes rejecting their wMS quota as Jessica Rodrigues doesn't meet the time criterion, same for Due Schmidt in the mMS. With Portugal out the last MS quota would be reallocated to opening the door for a second French women quota. In the "worst case" it would amount to 174, which would be problematic.
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Yes that was my point. Deltrap could start both these races (while there's also a decent chance they don't even qualify for the A final) and not hurt Dutch chances at all. The Olympic program is much lighter than any World Cup so competing in the heats would even work as a good warmup towards the final. Then appoint Schulting for 1000/1500, she's definitely stronger than any other pretender.
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It seems Jéssica Carolina Santos Rodrigues (or any other Portuguese skater) doesn't meet any required standard time to qualify. She needs 39''50 or 1'18''00 by mid-January, with SB/PB of 40''04 and 1'18''82. Same goes for Philip Due Schmidt . Don't know if ISU will give them some slack, if not they'll need to chase those qualifying times. If they fail to reach them, how will the quota be redistributed ? Logically R1 would be awarded a "direct" spot, which would change things as wR1 is Nizan and mR1 is Yakubovskiy two countries with only one quota spot. France would get a second quota, allowing them to enter two athletes and obtain a second starter in the MS (with already one additional quota). Kazakhstan would be able to enter a second skater (presumably Yakubovskiy) who could take part to the MS (at the moment they potentially could obtain an additional quota, but Koshkin probably won't participate in the MS).
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I've seen some talks about Stolz going for an Heiden in Milan. He definitely won't win 5 individual races, nobody could today. But with the mass-start under his belt he only needs one more chance ... Of course the team pursuit looks like the easy answer, as his qualities sure wouldn't hurt an already dominant squad, would they ? Put him in one of the three races to gold and have yourself a 5-time Olympic champion.
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Russian athletes that have changed nationalities
SalamAkhi replied to Cinnamon Bun's topic in Totallympics Mixed Zone
Italy is not less cynical than any other. Jorginho, Kamil Rychlicki, Andy Diaz Hernandez, Zane Weir, Nick Ponzio, Donte DiVincenzo (no they're not Italian, as much as Fournier-Beaudry is not French). I could probably go on. -
Inzell is not in talks. Turin would be the obvious choice to keep the sport close to the heartland of those already widespread Games, while Heerenveen is probably the worst option if we only look at this one fortnight (further from southeast France, almost Dutch-only attendance). But for that option to be seriously considered the upside must be significant. If the (probably) strongest French Olympic delegation of the sport has to become the first one to contest its home Olympics in another country, then at least offer them some benefits.
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It looks like Heerenveen has the edge. There were talks backstage during the WC at Thialf and I assume the Netherlands will offer some interesting favors to the French federation as a reward for this once in a lifetime chance of hosting the Games. French skaters will probably relocate there and benefit from the installations. We'll know soon enough.
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Sooooo, after day 2 : No change. To clarify, Thorup confirmed she was not going to the Games. But she still collected three quota for that can be used by any other athlete. Still, Lindenskov has not achieved any minimum qualification time so she's not eligible. Braun just had to finish the race. She could have started and bailed out like a couple of skaters did in the 500m. But she went all the way and got DQed So only one Polish skater and Smedding is in (she would have received an additional quota anyways). Horikawa was given the huge edge of starting in A division thanks to a couple of Dutch skips. Despite running 3s slower than Yang she still retrieved a comfortable amount of points to secure her spot. Yang benefited from the quartets but things could have gone to the wire if they ran in the same division. Italy not starting. Failing to qualify while they only had to be top 12 (with 14 teams competing) is a huge blow. Nope Nope Nope It was tense. Before last pair Semirunniy Lorello and Snellink (in that order with the tie breaker rule) were tied with 110 points, ahead of Henriksen. Meaning that Semirunniy was in and Snellink in too but only in the SOQT ranking, thus depriving the Netherlands of their 9th man. But Eitrem, ranking 0.07 ahead of Semirunniy, and a few seconds later Dawson, 0.10 ahead of Lorello, reshuffled the rankings completely, saving both countryman Henriksen and Dutch matrix selectors. So Semirunniy, as the world leader in the 10k (not the same event indeed) and 4th of one of the three WC qualifying races is not going to race in Milano. I guess the easy answer is to put that on him. But Sasaki, with 6'21, 13'30 and 6'21 is qualified, because he managed to be a tad faster in the first race of the season on the fastest track in the world. Semirunniy mismanaged his efforts in a flawed system that allows time quota in a World Cup circuit with huge track discrepancies, which works with unfair divisions rewarding way too much already established athletes. Like, look at those injured skaters not even going a hundred meters banking more points than 95% of B division, and yet still taking a spot next week. Erin Jackson could pull this till the end of the season and remain top 16.
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Qualification status that could realistically change this week, barring (except where noted) new time qualifying performances : Men 500m : pretty much done 1000m : pretty much done 1500m : pretty much done 5000m : one outlier at the moment Semirunniy. He's currently not qualified for the distance being 18/15 in the rankings and R1 time-wise. He could still punch his ticket : either by getting into the top 15 with a very good result (a podium or even a win would be needed). If it is at the expanse of Henriksen or, less likely, Swings, then the loser is out. If it is at the expanse of any other, then Sasaki is out. or by hoping Lorello gets into the top 15 at the expanse of Henriksen or Swings. or by going faster than Sasaki (6'08''834) which seems reachable after his 10k, even in Hamar. 10000m : once again Henriksen is on the bubble. If Maly, Petzold of Farthofer gets into the top 9 at the expanse of Malfatti or Snellink, then he's out. Mass-start : not much at stake considering most of the reserve skaters will already receive an additional quota - at the moment . Morino will try to enter top 32 and be in those additional quota spots. Team pursuit : pretty much done Women 500m : pretty much done 1000m : with Thorup not cleared to participate one more spot is up for grabs. Scholz would need to be in front of both Herzog (done as she's not entered) and Czerwonka (7 points) after this final week. Silaeva would be left out. 1500m : Lamarche not competing and Zofia Braun being promoted to A division, Poland has got a real shot at a second quota. Braun will need to stay in front of Scholz and Weidemann, who could still finish ahead of her depending on how good Braun fares in A division. Smedding would suffer from a Polish rise. 3000m : match-up between Yang and Horikawa only separated by 3 points. At the moment Yang is out (R2) but if they exchange position in the standings then Horikawa is out (R1). They could also both finish ahead of Hofmann, at the expanse of Golubeva ultimately. Jasch has a small shot at a second German quota too, by edging the former two skaters, eliminating them. 5000m : pretty much done Mass-start : Santo Rodrigues is hanging on by a thread. The cruelty of it is that those immediately behind her - - will get an aditional spot anyways, so it does not really matter if they finish in the top 24 ahead of her, except it would allow France to enter a second skater and two girls in the MS. Team pursuit : three-way asymetrical tie for the last SOQP spot between and , all in division A. Norway needs to beat both as they can't rely on a time Q, Kazakhstan needs to beat Norway to ensure (if they fail to beat China) the first SOQT spot and avoid the Italian wild-card*, whereas China is pretty safe. * is currently out but they "only" need to get into a reserve spot to be qualified, which is going faster than 3'00'92 (or faster than Norway if they too decide to skate faster). They were not far off this mark in Hamar earlier this year but the team was in a better shape overall.
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I don't see most of the NOC sleeping on (so many) substitutes. France will definitely select 5 guys for the sake of the team pursuit (even if one of them will probably not start any event) and as a "reward" (as Trebouta maybe missed a 10k ticket through misfortune). Belgium will take 3 guys (Vosté 1000/1500, Swings 5k/10k/MS and Médard MS). And thanks to additional quotas Austria for example will most likely get a second starter in the wMS, who won't be Herzog, so Molnar would get a berth too.
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Liu fell 8 minutes in, a hard fall it seems which prevented the race from going on. The three skaters (Lorello Bosker and Trebouta ) will get a rerun tonight. As the Netherlands and Italy already have two guys in qualifying spots this is not a disaster for them. But Trebouta will now start another 10000 with 15 laps in the legs, alone in his pair, aiming for 12'49 to qualify. We'll never know what he would have done in those last laps but he was on pace to at least approach this time.
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