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That is some true optimism, I like it! You could work for Gracenote. I predicted 2 medals in swimming (between Van Rouwendaal, Weertman and Kamminga) and 2 in athletics (between Hassan, Visser and Bol). I already considered those optimistic. Hassan feels especially unpredictable. Of course I hope she can repeat her Doha 2019 dominance, would be amazing for her. Also a small nitpick, Bol will only run 400 m hurdles and 4x400 m in Tokyo, at least that was her position after the indoor season. And I'm not sure if Vetter is qualified, because she DNFed the Doha 2019 heptathlon. I think Götzis in May is her last shot.

I'm just going to enjoy pretending we are the 5th best (summer) sports nation in the world for a nice 100 days and then come back to earth I have to think hard to figure out 13 more potential Dutch medalists on top of the optimistic 33 range I predicted earlier though. Maybe something out of the box like medals in diving, tennis mixed doubles or badminton...

Just to be sure: the Epke Zonderland medal I mentioned was the little prediction I did 'if I could pick and choose 8 gold medals'. I don't think 3x gold for Lavreyssen is very realistic either, I just like him! And Epke Zonderland I couldn't find a full list of the 46 medals Gracenote predicts, you have to file an official request to get it and probably pay for it. I just tried to google and could only find the same few medal winners quoted by pretty much every Dutch media. I can piece together most of the 16 golds from what I saw online though: Sifan Hassan (10.000M) Hockey W Anna van der Breggen (road race and time trial) Niek Kimmann and Laura Smulders (BMX) Harry Lavreyssen (sprint and keirin) Team sprint M Kirsten Wild/Amy Pieters (madisson) 5x sailing (not mentioned which classes, but I can only imagine: 2x RS:X, Laser Radial W, 470 W and 49erRX W) Seems like one gold medal winner is not interesting enough to be mentioned in the media so far.

And here I thought my 33 medals was the optimistic end of the range. What an absurd Gracenote prediction! Now that I see my post again I realise I forgot a gold medal for Epke Zonderland if I could pick and choose 8 golds. That is clearly a mistake! To fix that, our rowing team will have to do with only silvers and bronzes in my version of the Games.

I definitely see you winning women's football as well, though team sports are always hard to consider a guarantee. And why not M basketball? Isn't that a lock-in for the US every games? Must be a special experience following the Olympics from an American perspective (or Chinese for that matter). Medal candidates in virtually every sports and so many athletes to follow.

I don't have much to add really, looks like a solid prediction. I made my version with pessimistic-optimistic ranges: Archery: 0-1 Athletics: 0-2 - no idea what Hassan's form is, feels like in a good week she wins 2 golds and in a bad week she doesn't even run. Hopefully Femke Bol or Nadine Visser can surprise the American competition for a medal as well, even a bronze would be awesome. Cycling road: 1-2 - a gold for Van der Breggen or Van Vleuten in the road race would be amazing. As a farewell race for AvdB or as a redemption after the Rio fall for AvV. Cycling track: 3-5 - no competitions to really judge, but in addition to the men's sprint and omnium, I hope there is also a medal chances in the keirin (m) and madisson (m/w) events. BMX: 1-2 - no clue how everyone is doing in this sport, but the Smulders sisters, Kimmann and Van Gendt were usually all medal contenders. Mountainbike: 1 - the world cups this spring will have to show how Van der Poel stands in the MTB field. If he has a bad day, there is still Milan Vader and Anne Terpstra that can potentially ride top 3. Field hockey: 1-2 Artistic gymnastics: 0-1 - another Epke Zonderland gold would be such an amazing story Handball: 0-1 Judo: 1-2 Rowing: 3-5 Sailing: 3-4 - in addition to RS:X men, 470 women and 49erFX women, there should also be chances in either RS:X or Laser Radial women I think? Swimming: 0-2 - one medal in open water swimming and hopefully one by Arno Kamminga (m breaststroke) or Kira Toussaint (w backstroke) Suprise medal: 1-3 - these are always the most fun! Some candidates that I haven't mentioned yet are Football women's team or maybe Keet Oldenbeuving (skateboard). I also noticed I forgot Nouschka Fontijn, but since I have never seen a boxing match in my life, I'll consider her a surprise medal. Total: 15-33 As ranges go, it would end up somewhere in the middle around that 20-25 mark. Hopefully with 8 golds like in Rio. If I could pick and choose, I'd go with: Anne van der Breggen (cycling road), 3x Harrie Lavreysen (track cycling team sprint, sprint and keirin), Mathieu van der Poel (mtb), field hockey women, Kiran Badloe (sailing RS:X) and a rowing boat. Wishful thinking, I know! With a thread like this, I just can't wait for the games to start.

As I've said earlier in the thread 25 medals in Sydney is our highest tally ever. Even if we are doing well the past two years, 40 is an exaggeration. CCB's prediction is realistic, even if I am a bit more optimistic and hopeful for a surprise medal every now and then. I think he is also right that other countries are catching up in track cycling and rowing the past year.

Second gold for , incredibly strong race for the W4x leading from the start! Great Brittain a close 2nd and Germany 3rd.

Same for me really, so we'll see how far we can get. Do you expect the 25 medals is achievable this summer? I'm typing from my phone atm, so I'll start a detailed post when I'm on my laptop later.

First gold for in the women's four! With Ireland close behind and GB in 3rd.

I really hope we can reach the 25 medal record we set in Sydney 2000, considering the recent success in (track) cycling, sailing and rowing among others. That's probably optimistic, but over 20 medals should be a realistic goal. I'll try a sport-by-sport overview with best and worst case guesses tonight. @CCB and @heywoodu will probably be able to correct me on many sports though.

I'm terrible at remembering the different rowing classes, but I was surprised to see the W4x ('vrouwen dubbelvier') didn't reach the final. Wasn't that boat also a reigning European champion from last year? There was even a promo video on TeamNL's youtube with one of them yesterday. There is also a daughter of Florijn in the W4- I think.

Eindhoven Qualification Meet 200m backstroke 2.09:72 Sharon van Rouwendaal 2.10:02 Kira Toussaint Toussaint initially didn't want to participate in the 200m, but she is quoted in the Dutch news article about the 200m: "I had a bet with my coach. I jokingly told him: if I swim the Olympic standard, I'll paint your eyebrows. So that's going to happen today." There is also an interesting battle going on for the 50m freestyle (w) ticket. The backstory is Femke Heemskerk missed the previous qualification meet due to quarantine and for a long time it wasn't certain if there would be another chance for Heemskerk. Valerie van Roon qualified behind Kromowidjojo in the previous tournament. Now Heemskerk has already beaten Van Roon's time in the series, finals are later today.

Love seeing all the schedules you guys make! I didn't want to create a full Tokyo schedule already (leaving some of the fun for the summer!), so instead I made a schedule of sports events I want to follow up to the start of the Games. Was a nice little practice run with the format I was considering. For the Games this would be on day-to-day instead of week-to-week basis, so it'll be quite the project: Excuse my Dutch The first rows are my favorite sports (athletics, volleyball, beach volleyball, cycling, mountainbike, football) and the grey row at the bottom is various other interesting things.

Love seeing your spreadsheets! Makes me want to start my own already.

I definitely want to make an excel schedule with the timetables of all the Dutch athletes and sports I personally enjoy. I'm not sure if I can handle actually going for a nocturnal timeschedule though. I hope there will be enough replays and content to watch during the European daytime.

I wouldn't mind at all if the WCH short track results were copy pasted into Beijing 2022 after that display by Schulting

The entire Doha tournament is streamed live on youtube (Beach Volleyball World). I was watching some parts while working from home. Including that tense v match. Both teams lost multiple match points in the 3rd set as well.

Just a day after Bol wins gold in the 400m and 4x400m at the European Indoor Championship, Bol wins the 2nd stage of Paris-Nice!

Just caught up on the replays of the Dutch medals and interviews. Great final day! Femke Bol is definitely the big thing in Dutch athletics right now. Though when it comes to the Dafne Schippers comparison, I think the 100m/200m definitely has more status globally than the 400m hurdles. CCB rightly said that there was also a couple disappointments for the Dutch athletes, but all in all it feels like a succesful weekend. In addition to the medals I was happy to see 19 yo Zoë Sedney reaching the 60m hurdles final and to see Rik Taam close to the medals and scoring multiple PB's in the heptathlon. I've said it before, but I'm really enjoying the current crop of Dutch athletics talent, even if it is mostly a 400m project I guess. And it's always such a joy following these athletics tournaments! Following all of you here in the thread also puts various results by other nations into perspective. Thanks guys!

Zoë Sedney in the 60m hurdles finals with Nadine Visser! Good result already for her

That could mean Rik Taam is in a medal position? Definitely didn't expect that before the tournament!

Looks like no one has posted this one yet: Women's 400m: Lieke Klaver (51,21) At the National Indoor Championships in Apeldoorn, feb. 21, 2021.

I'm not an adept memer, but this whole rise of Nyls van der Poel makes me think of the Doofenschmirz meme: If I had a nickel for every Van der Poel that is a freak of nature in endurance sports, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

What a stunt