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:POL Aleksandra Shelton (nee Socha) wants to represent :USA at the 2020 OG after getting married to her US boyfriend lately. Apparently our Fed asked the US to pay 43k Euros for the so-called tutelage over the years but US said they don't have such funds so this may drag for a while :raspberry:

 

Socha is a bit past-prime these days but maybe US fencing is having a dire period? Sabre used to be their best event IIRC?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandra_Socha

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Didn't she start already for USA at last WC?

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IOC rules are different though. Remember Kipketer winning WCh for Denmark but missing 1996 OG? :rolleyes:

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1 ora fa, Col_Frost ha scritto:

Didn't she start already for USA at last WC?

 

IOC rules are a lot stricter than National federations'...

normally, athletes can change Nationality already after 6 months/1 year (if not even earlier, think about the new Wrestling rules) with the new team...

meanwhile the IOC requires 3 years from the last appearance with the former team, unless there is the explicit permission of the old federation directly given to the new one...

and usually this comes down to money (with only a few Nations that regularly deny any permission until the 3 years have gone by...nowadays not even Cuba is as tough as they once were)...

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For no particular reason, who are the best foil fencers?


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35 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

For no particular reason, who are the best foil fencers?

 

in the men's division, right now, :ITA Italians and :USA Americans (Race Imboden being probably the most talented foilist of the entire circuit)...

second row, :FRA France and :RUS Russia...

lone stars, :GBR Richard Kruse and occasionally, some :CHN Chinese and/or :KOR Korean...

 

in the women's division, :RUS Russians (Inna Deriglazova is definitely the "queen of foil") and :ITA Italians...

second row, :USA USA and :FRA France...

other girls worth to be mentioned, :TUN Ines Boubakri, :GER Leonie Ebert, the usual suspects from :KOR Korea and above all, the rising star from :JPN Japan, Yuka Ueno...

also to be followed, the 13-year young sensation from :CAN Canada, Jessica Guo (Zi), already capable of a top 8 in a senior world cup stage...

 

anybody outside those names making the podium of a world cup/world champs competition, it should be called a surprise...

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17 minutes ago, phelps said:

 

in the men's division, right now, :ITA Italians and :USA Americans (Race Imboden being probably the most talented foilist of the entire circuit)...

second row, :FRA France and :RUS Russia...

lone stars, :GBR Richard Kruse and occasionally, some :CHN Chinese and/or :KOR Korean...

 

in the women's division, :RUS Russians (Inna Deriglazova is definitely the "queen of foil") and :ITA Italians...

second row, :USA USA and :FRA France...

other girls worth to be mentioned, :TUN Ines Boubakri, :GER Leonie Ebert, the usual suspects from :KOR Korea and above all, the rising star from :JPN Japan, Yuka Ueno...

also to be followed, the 13-year young sensation from :CAN Canada, Jessica Guo (Zi), already capable of a top 8 in a senior world cup stage...

 

anybody outside those names making the podium of a world cup/world champs competition, it should be called a surprise...

How are Adeline Zagidullina and Mary Dvorkin because they’re the first athletes I’m filming


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23 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

How are Adeline Zagidullina and Mary Dvorkin because they’re the first athletes I’m filming

 

Dvorkin unfortunately is not so good...she's ranked 130 in the world, but probably she's not even that "not good"...

 

Zagidullina is a good athlete...on a given day, she could even make the podium or get close to it, but normally she's the 3rd/4th (more 4th than 3rd) Russian girl, for sure not in the same class of the Deriglazovas and Korobeyinikovas)...

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Just watched Boubarkri get upset by an Israeli :yikes:. Dvorkin fell apart after leading


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