Ski Jumping 2016 - 2017 Discussion Thread

[EselTheDonkey 824]

Stoch crashed in the Trial Round. And basically the whole Austrian Team has a virus.

[hckošice 14,934]

2nd round in Innsbruck cancelled. Kraft probably lost the turnee today during this idiotic 1st round. Great job of the jury Tande is the winner of the race and take the 4 hills tournament lead ahead of Kamil Stoch.

 

Also mentionable podium today for Johansson thanks most likely the most lucky jump in the history of this sport and what a podium for Klimov former nordic combined ski jumping star  finally achieved his careers result

 

what a comedy it was today

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Norwegian double victory on the Bergisel

 

After two smooth competitions in Oberstdorf and Garmisch-Partenkirchen, the third leg of the 65th 4-Hills-Tournament in Innsbruck was turbulent. Constantly changing winds made the competition difficult for everyone involved and a certain amount of luck was definitely required in order to be successful. It took almost two hours to complete the first round and Norway's Daniel Andre Tande was the lucky and well-deserved winner. Tande's teammate Robert Johansson and Russia's Evgeniy Klimov came in second and third.

 

Norway's Robert Johansson was in the lead for quite some time. Under perfect conditions, the 26-year-old showed the longest jump of the day of 133 m (123.1 points). But then Tande jumped on 128.5 m and took the top spot after the first round with his total of 125.7 points.

 

Due to the difficult conditions and the lack of daylight, the jury then decided to cancel the final shortly after the first round was completed and so the results became official.

 

"This was a really tough day for the jury, the conditions were extremely difficult. I made the best out of my jump and of course I was also lucky with the conditions. On a day like today you can't win without the luck. I was hoping for a second round with equal conditions for all the jumpers, but Ski Jumping is an outdoor sport and so you have to live with what you get, you can't chose the conditions you want", Tande explained his point of view after the competition.

 

Kamil Stoch fights like a lion

 

Poland's Kamil Stoch was actually the "Man of the Day" in Innsbruck. Stoch fell after the landing in the trial round and had to compete despite problems with his left shoulder. But still the double Olympic Champion finished fourth in this competition - amazing.

 

Stoch lost the overall lead in the 4-Hills-Tournament to Tande, but thanks to his great fighting spirit he is now only 1.7 points behind the Norwegian. Whether he will be albe to fight for the overall title of the 65th 4-Hills-Tournament in the final event in Bischofshofen will now depend on how serious Stoch's injury is.

 

The athletes definitely needed some luck in today's competition. Some of the favorites of the overall ranking had to experience that today: Austria's Stefan Kraft had a bad day not only because of the wind conditions, he also suffered from a stomach flu. Kraft finished 18th and is now third in the overall ranking of the 4-Hills-Tournament. With a total of 693.7 points, Kraft is 16.7 points behind Tande and still has a chance. The Austrian will definitely not give up the fight for the overall title.

 

Also the currently best German jumper lost some ground today. Markus Eisenbichler had really bad conditions and came in only 29th with a jump of 112 m. In the overall ranking he is now sixth. "I would have wished that the jury would have waited a bit longer for the top four or five athletes. From my point of view it became clear pretty early that there wouldn't be a final round. The only alternative today would have been a cancellation. They couldn't have done a much better job, they made the best out of it. Andreas Wellinger and Stephan Leyhe are getting better and better and the hill in Bischofshofen should suit Markus Eisenbichler. I think that we will see a good performance of the German team in the final in Bischofshofen", German head coach Werner Schuster said after the competition.

 

The day in Innsbruck already started a bit odd. First the German Ski Association (DSV) announced that Severin Freund has returned home due to an influenza infection.  A little while later, it was announced that Austria's Michael Hayboeck, the opponent of Freund in the K.O. round, will not be able to compete due to a stomach flu. So there were only 24 instead of the usual 25 pairs in the first round and for the first time in the history of the 4-Hills-Tournament 6 lucky loser would have been qualified for the final - that didn't take place.

 

The 4-Hills-Tournament continues already tomorrow with the training and the qualification in Bischofshofen.

 

 

Full Results Here

 

Daniel Andre Tande 1st jump

 

Robert Johansson 2nd place

 

Evgeniy Klimov 3rd place

 

Kamil Stoch vs Stefan Kraft

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4 Hills Tournament

Stage 4 Bischofshofen

KO Round Starting Order

 

Q	Athlete	Pairing	Athlete	Q
26	Jakub JANDA	1	William RHOADS	25
27	Vojtech STURSA	2	Elias TOLLINGER	24
28	Jernej DAMJAN	3	Roman KOUDELKA	23
29	Markus SCHIFFNER	4	Taku TAKEUCHI	22
30	Jarkko MAEAETTAE	5	Dimitry VASSILIEV	21
31	Richard FREITAG	6	Stefan KRAFT	20
32	Kento SAKUYAMA	7	Evgeniy KLIMOV	19
33	Cene PREVC	8	Robert JOHANSSON	18
34	Jan ZIOBRO	9	Stefan HULA	17
35	Thomas HOFER	10	Andreas STJERNEN	16
36	Halvor Egner GRANERUD	11	Michael HAYBOECK	15
37	Kevin BICKNER	12	Noriaki KASAI	14
38	Michael GLASDER	13	Jurij TEPES	13
39	Daniel Andre TANDE	14	Domen PREVC	12
40	Lukas HLAVA	15	Daiki ITO	11
41	Anze SEMENIC	16	Peter PREVC	10
42	Jan MATURA	17	Dawid KUBACKI	9
43	Florian ALTENBURGER	18	Vincent DESCOMBES SEVOIE	8
44	Vladimir ZOGRAFSKI	19	Karl GEIGER	7
45	Andreas KOFLER	20	Anders FANNEMEL	6
46	Tomas VANCURA	21	Maciej KOT	5
47	Philipp ASCHENWALD	22	Piotr ZYLA	4
48	Ryoyu KOBAYASHI	23	Stephan LEYHE	3
49	Kamil STOCH	24	Manuel FETTNER	2
50	Markus EISENBICHLER	25	Andreas WELLINGER	1

 

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Kamil Stoch is the new 4 Hills Tournament champion.

 

so now he is 2 olympic champion, overall world cup winner, world champion, only thing he is missing is the ski flying world championships.

 

poor Tande, what a disastrous way to lose the 4 hills...

[mihamiha 124]

congrats to polish jumpers.well deserved,especisally to stoch.

tepeš blew it once again

[Federer91 2,833]

I was waiting for the moment when the pressure will squash Tande and it came. What a horrendous jump and as i expected, his caliber is not for a 4-Hills winner (at least not yet). The return of Kamil Stoch   Awesome to see that the fall he had in Innsbruck didn't faze him. 

[mihamiha 124]

domen is back in yellow yersey

[rybak 3,227]

YES!   Now Kamil have almost everything!  He is just second Polish jumper who won this, 16 years after Adam Małysz 

 

Also first time ever two Polish jumpers are on podium at the same Four Hills Tournament with Żyła on second place  Also Kot could be third, but fourth place in total is also awesome for us and especially him! 

 

Time to celebrate 

 

[Federer91 2,833]

The polish starts next week will be insane!!