JoshMartini007 2,375 Posted June 9 #211 Share Posted June 9 The Davis/BJK rules are more suggestions and an easy out for players that don't want to participate at the Olympics without looking bad. If the player really wants to and their NOC agrees the ITF won't prevent them from competing. jayakris and Pasolini 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayakris 3 Posted June 9 #212 Share Posted June 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Makedonas said: They "bend the rules" like this all the time, there are many examples, especially when a player recently rose up like O'Connell did. He spent most of this Olympic cycle out of the top 100 and only recently is now well inside the top 100. It really was not realistic for Australia to select him in Davis Cup in 2021 or 2022 for example. But that is all Australia's problem. Czechia need not pay for that. AUS could have selected him earlier this year and Hewitt didn't. Now they cannot cry about it. And ITF should not pay heed if they do. Mensik is just 18 years old. A super-talented player. The only player aged below 19 in the ATP top-200. He had come up from #140 to #77 in the last 4 months or something, right? To screw him out of a chance to play at Olympics, just to be nice to Australia smells awfully foul to me. (I am an Indian, and don't have a dog in this fight. I just felt bad that Sumit Nagal pushed the young kid out of that last spot. But he actually didn't. As per ITF's rules, Mensik should still be in!) Edited June 9 by jayakris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prso1000 578 Posted June 9 #213 Share Posted June 9 2 hours ago, Makedonas said: Cilic hasn't played in a very long time, I thought he was injured, is he going to be healthy again? Dodig/Vekic would just miss out but there would probably be withdrawals. Without withdrawals, Pavic/Vekic would get in regardless. Is that not a possibility? Is Martic/Vekic not an option because they don't want to play together or some other reason? They would be one of the first alternates right now after GRE and ITA2, so they probably have a chance to get in the draw. I don't think Martic can make it in singles unless there are a lot of withdrawals... Dodig just said last week he plans to play with Cilic. I don’t think Vekic wants to play 3 tournaments, beside singles, she is focusing on mixed. I am sure they will get in. Martic is safe for the singles. She played a challenger this week and improved her ranking a bit. That should be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepansevs 105 Posted June 9 #214 Share Posted June 9 1 hour ago, jayakris said: But that is all Australia's problem. Czechia need not pay for that. AUS could have selected him earlier this year and Hewitt didn't. Now they cannot cry about it. And ITF should not pay heed if they do. Mensik is just 18 years old. A super-talented player. The only player aged below 19 in the ATP top-200. He had come up from #140 to #77 in the last 4 months or something, right? To screw him out of a chance to play at Olympics, just to be nice to Australia smells awfully foul to me. (I am an Indian, and don't have a dog in this fight. I just felt bad that Sumit Nagal pushed the young kid out of that last spot. But he actually didn't. As per ITF's rules, Mensik should still be in!) I hope that Menšík will be in. But i think that it is not against rules. It Is not neccessary to be part od Davis Cup/Fed Cup, but have interest to compete (example with Badosa is good enough). jayakris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayakris 3 Posted June 10 #215 Share Posted June 10 2 hours ago, stepansevs said: I hope that Menšík will be in. But i think that it is not against rules. It Is not neccessary to be part od Davis Cup/Fed Cup, but have interest to compete (example with Badosa is good enough) Anyway, in the end, I am sure Mensik will be in. This early cut will drop quite a bit. Probably at least 5-6 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Linha 564 Posted June 10 #216 Share Posted June 10 34 minutes ago, jayakris said: Anyway, in the end, I am sure Mensik will be in. This early cut will drop quite a bit. Probably at least 5-6 spots. Thanks of your kind words of Jakub he is really huge talent. He had a break due to a small injury but he is back. He mentioned for media he would be happy to go to the Games but if he doesn't go, it doesn't matter as he is still very young and will surely be aiming for LA28. But according to the current ranking it shows he may make the cut 😊🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makedonas 1,911 Posted June 10 #217 Share Posted June 10 5 hours ago, prso1000 said: Dodig just said last week he plans to play with Cilic. I don’t think Vekic wants to play 3 tournaments, beside singles, she is focusing on mixed. I am sure they will get in. Martic is safe for the singles. She played a challenger this week and improved her ranking a bit. That should be enough. Vekic isn't good on clay and won't even be seeded in singles so I don't think 3 tournaments will be much for her, but anyways Martic is 79 in singles which I don't think will be enough to get in unless there are a lot of withdrawals, probably the cutoff will be around 70 before withdrawals. Which is unfortunate because I would like to see her make the Olympics once in her career (and she will be 37 in 2028...), but also she has herself to blame for not caring to go to Tokyo when she had the ranking for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasolini 231 Posted June 10 #218 Share Posted June 10 On 6/4/2024 at 11:31 AM, MatiReimundo said: The loss of Ruusuvuori in this week challengers pretty much close the olympics rankings as there is no more possible changes, except Altmaier or Marterer win the Heilbronn Challenger and gets in the last spot. The Top 56 qualified players are: * Based on Monday 10/06 World Ranking, some players can withdraw or not meet the elegibility criteria. Jannik Sinner ; Lorenzo Musetti ; Matteo Arnaldi ; Luciano Darderi (Cobolli or Sonego instead of Darderi) Novak Djokovic ; Laslo Djere ; Miomir Kecmanovic ; Dusan Lajovic Carlos Alcaraz ; Rafael Nadal (PR) ; Pablo Carreño Busta (PR) ; Alejandro Davidovich Fokina Daniil Medvedev ; Andrey Rublev ; Karen Khachanov ; Roman Safiullin Alex De Minaur ; Jordan Thompson ; Alexei Popyrin ; Christopher O´Connell Taylor Fritz ; Tommy Paul ; Sebastian Korda ; Frances Tiafoe Ugo Humbert ; Gael Monfils ; Arthur Fils ; Corentin Moutet Sebastian Baez ; Francisco Cerundolo ; Mariano Navone ; Tomas Etcheverry Alexander Zverev ; Jan-Lennard Struff ; Dominik Koepfer Cameron Norrie ; Jack Draper ; Daniel Evans Alexander Bublik ; Alexander Shevchenko Nicolas Jarry ; Alejandro Tabilo Jiri Lehecka ; Tomas Machac Fabian Marozsan ; Marton Fucsovics Hubert Hurkacz Stefanos Tsitsipas Casper Ruud Holger Rune Felix Auger-Aliassime Tallon Griekspoor Nuno Borges Sebastian Ofner Thiago Seyboth Wild Emil Ruusuvuori 8 Spots Remaining: 2 Legacy WC (probably Andy Murray and Stan Wawrinka) 1 Universality Spot (most likely Valentin Vacherot) 1 Host Nation Quota (Reallocated to Daniel Altmaier / Maximilian Marterer or Jakub Mensik) African Champion Moez Echargui Asian Champion Zhizhen Zhang PanAmerican Games Silver and Bronze Medallist Tomas Barrios Vera and Thiago Monteiro (Gold Medallist ARG Facundo Diaz Acosta quota reallocated to Monteiro because of the max 4 per country rule) Next in Ranking in case of withdraws: (1) - Daniel Altmaier or Maximilian Marterer (in case of making at least QF or SF in this week Heilbronn Challenger or finishing ahead Marterer) (1)- Jakub Mensik 2- Zizou Bergs 3- Taro Daniel (4)- Maximilian Marterer (if Altmaier dont finish ahead of him) 5- Borna Coric 6- Stan Wawrinka 7- Juncheng Shang 8- Andy Murray 9- Botic van de Zandschulp 10- Sumit Nagal Next - Nishioka, Galan, Goffin, Vacherot, Garin, Shapovalov, Kovalik, Kopriva, Dzumhur May use Protected Ranking: Marin Cilic (direct quota) Denis Shapovalov (direct quota) Kei Nishikori (direct quota) Kwon Soon-woo (below Mensik in Next in Ranking for possible reallocation) Players who are qualified and either withdraw or dont meet the elegibility criteria: Grigor Dimitrov (Davis Cup criteria) Ben Shelton (Withdraw) Adrian Mannarino (Withdraw) Do we have any official indication that Dimitrov is out (as in the case of Mertens)? thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur 600 Posted June 10 #219 Share Posted June 10 Benjamin Hassan got the male universiality quota. And Elina now represents , so I guess she gets a quota to the olympics too Josh and Roamingrover86 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,778 Posted June 10 #220 Share Posted June 10 5 minutes ago, Jur said: Benjamin Hassan got the male universiality quota. And Elina now represents , so I guess she gets a quota to the olympics too As yet Elina does not have Armenian citizenship though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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