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6 minutes ago, Nate River said:

Very weird that they changed it so late in the process.

 

TBH I'm not sure why there is a need for countries to have five athletes in those sports as long as injury replacements are available.

The system with 4 athletes + 1 possible replacement for team events in case of injury looks better. Especially for the countries which are weaker in this sports because fifth athletes of the strong countries took some quotas. But FIS decided to change the system to worse. Just two months before the Olympics...

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All qualification procedures for FIS sports now have some differents compare to the second post of this thread.

 

But the biggest are in ski jumping and nordic combined. FIS went back to the maximum 5 athletes per NOC for men instead of 4 and delete all about alternate athletes. In the nordic combined changes in the rules had finished a week ago. Now the qualification situation looks very different - Russia and the USA are losing their places in the nordic combined team event. Slovenia and Poland are taking this places instead. 

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I remember Salt Lake City 2002 game. There were 6 disciplines: men's alpine skiing downhill, men's ski jumping K120, men's snowboard PGS, women's alpine skiing slalom, women's freestyle aerials and 2-man bobsleigh.

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Quota

Country

The best athletes, who counted (their places at the WC in brackets)

4

:GER

FRENZEL Eric (1), RYDZEK Johannes (2), RIESSLE Fabian (4), KIRCHEISEN Bjoern (5).

4

:AUT

SEIDL Mario (6), DENIFL Wilhelm (9), GRUBER Bernhard (10), ORTER Philipp (17).

4

:NOR

GRAABAK Joergen (11), ANDERSEN Espen (15), KROG Magnus (18), SCHMID Jan (23).

4

:JPN

WATABE Akito (3), NAGAI Hideaki (22), WATABE Yoshito (24), WATANABE Takehiro (32).

4

:FRA

BRAUD Francois (12), GERARD Antoine (33), LAHEURTE Maxime (35), MUHLETHALER Laurent (55).

4

:FIN

HEROLA Ilkka (7), HIRVONEN Eero (8), MUTRU Leevi (36), MAEKIAHO Arttu (58).

3

:CZE

PORTYK Tomas (37), DVORAK Miroslav (41), PAZOUT Ondrej (64).

2

:ITA

COSTA Samuel (14), PITTIN Alessandro (38).

2

:USA

FLETCHER Bryan (34), FLETCHER Taylor (49).

2

:POL

CIESLAR Adam (43), SLOWIOK Pawel (50).

2

:RUS

BARKOV Viacheslav (52), YAHIN Ernest (55).

2

:EST ILVES Kristjan (42), TIIRMAA Karl-August (67).

1

:SUI HUG Tim (16).

1

:SLO

JELENKO Marjan (63).

1 :KOR PARK Je-un (67).

Total - 40 athletes with 1 host spot inside.

Then should use CC until we reached 50.

According to the CC standings:

Quota Country The best athletes, who counted (their places at the CC in brackets)
+2 :ITA RUNGGALDIER Lukas (12), BAUER Armin (17).
+2 :USA LOOMIS Ben (28), GOOD Jasper (30).
+2 :RUS MASTIEV Samir (42), NABEEV Niyaz (70).
+1 :UKR PASICHNYK Viktor (38).
+1 :CZE DANEK Lukas (55).
+1 :SLO VRHOVNIK Vid (63).
+1 :EST PIHO Han Hendrik (72).

+10. Total - 50.

10 countries have 4 quoats for the team event: :GER :AUT :NOR :JPN :FRA :FIN :ITA :USA :CZE :RUS

 

The last 5 guotas according to the CC standings:

Quota Country The best athletes, who counted (their places at the CC in brackets)
+1 :SLO SARC Leon (72).
+1 :UKR MAZURCHUK Dmytro (75).
+1 :EST PIHO Kail (97).
+1 :POL TWARDOSZ Pawel (99).
+1    

+4. Total - 54.

At this moment there aren't any more athletes for filling the last quota.

 

Without 10 countries for the team event (40 quotas), the other 14 quoats goes: 4 - :EST, 3 - :POL :SLO, 2 - :UKR, 1 - :SUI :KOR.

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Winter Olympic Games 2018 Qualification Systems
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Women's ski jumping at this moment.

 

Max quota per NOC are 4 athletes.

Total quota for women's ski jumping are 35

According to the WC standings:

Quota

Country

The best athletes, who counted (their places at the WC in brackets)

4

:JPN

TAKANASHI Sara (1), ITO Yuki (2), SETO Yuka (12), IWABUCHI Kaori (18).

4

:GER

ALTHAUS Katharina (4), VOGT Carina (5), WUERTH Svenja (10), STRAUB Ramona (19).

4

:SLO

KLINEC Ema (7), VTIC Maja (11), ROGELJ Spela (17), BOGATAJ Ursa (22).

4

:RUS

AVVAKUMOVA Irina (9), BARANNIKOVA Anastasiya (25), TIKHONOVA Sofia (27), KUSTOVA Alexandra (35).

4

:USA

HENDRICKSON Sarah (14), ENGLUND Nita (16), RINGQUIST Abby (28), GERAGHTY-MOATS Tara (40).

4

:FRA

LEMARE Lea (23), MORAT Lucile (24), MATTEL Coline (32), AVOCAT GROS Oceane (42).

3

:AUT

IRASCHKO-STOLZ Daniela (6), SEIFRIEDSBERGER Jacqueline (8), HOELZL Chiara (13).

3

:ITA

MALSINER Manuela (15), RUNGGALDIER Elena (21), INSAM Evelyn (30).

1

:CAN

HENRICH Taylor (33).

1

:NOR

LUNDBY Maren (3).

1

:FIN

KYKKAENEN Julia (20).

1

:ROU HARALAMBIE Daniela (37).

Total - 34 athletes.

Host guota

1 :KOR PARK Guy-Lim (60)                                                                         

+1. Total - 35 athletes.

Edited by Dmitry
Correct with the host quota
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I tried to calculate Quotas allocation according to World Cup and Continental Cup for men's ski jumping at this moment.


Max quota per NOC are 4 athletes.

Total quota for men's ski jumping are 65 (55 for rule D.1 and 10 for rule D.2.)

According to the WC standings:

Quota

Country

The best athletes, who counted (their places at the WC in brackets)

4

:GER

WELLINGER Andreas (4), EISENBICHLER Markus (8), FREITAG Richard (13), GEIGER Karl (18).

4

:POL

STOCH Kamil (2), KOT Maciej (5), ZYLA Piotr (11), KUBACKI Dawid (19).

4

:AUT

KRAFT Stefan (1), HAYBOECK Michael (7), FETTNER Manuel (10), KOFLER Andreas (23).

4

:NOR

TANDE Daniel Andre (3), STJERNEN Andreas (12), JOHANSSON Robert (14), FANNEMEL Anders (26).

4

:SLO

PREVC Domen (6), PREVC Peter (9), TEPES Jurij (20), DAMJAN Jernej (28).

4

:CZE

KOUDELKA Roman (25), STURSA Vojtech (36), JANDA Jakub (38), POLASEK Viktor (47).

4

:JPN

KASAI Noriaki (15), ITO Daiki (24), TAKEUCHI Taku (30), KOBAYASHI Junshiro (54).

4

:RUS

KLIMOV Evgeniy (17), KORNILOV Denis (39), ROMASHOV Alexey (55), VASSILIEV Dimitry (58).

3

:FIN

AHONEN Janne (50), MAEAETTAE Jarkko (50), LARINTO Ville (56).

3

:ITA

COLLOREDO Sebastian (46), INSAM Alex (53), BRESADOLA Davide (60).

3

:SUI

AMMANN Simon (29), DESCHWANDEN Gregor (64), KARLEN Gabriel (71).

2

:USA BICKNER Kevin (42), GLASDER Michael (67).

1

:FRA DESCOMBES SEVOIE Vincent (16).

1

:CAN

BOYD-CLOWES Mackenzie (41).

1 :EST NURMSALU Kaarel (69).

Total - 46 athletes.

Then should use CC until we reached 55.

According to the CC standings:

Quota Country The best athletes, who counted (their places at the CC in brackets)
+1 :FIN AALTO Antti (47).
+1 :SUI PEIER Killian (60).
+1 :USA RHOADS William (72).
+1 :TUR IPCIOGLU Fatih Arda (109).
+1 :FRA ROCH DUPLAND Thomas (110).
+1 :KOR CHOI Seou (113).
+1 :EST AIGRO Artti (114).
+1 :ITA CECON Federico (120).
+1 :KAZ ZHAPAROV Marat (120).

+9. Total - 55 with 1 host spot inside.


11 countries have 4 quoats for the team event: :GER :POL :AUT :NOR :SLO :CZE :JPN :RUS :FIN :SUI :ITA

It needs 12 for the competition. 1 country :USA have 3 quotas, so the USA take the first quota from last 10.

The last 10 guotas according to the CC standings:

Quota Country The best athletes, who counted (their places at the CC in brackets)
+1 :USA MATTOON Nicholas (133).
+3 :TUR CINTIMAR Muhammet Irfan (124), DEMIR Ayberk (132), BEDIR Muhammed Ali (140).
+2 :KAZ KARPENKO Nikolay (123), KOROLEV Alexey (140).
+1 :UKR KALINICHENKO Vitaliy (131).
+1 :EST MALTSEV Kevin (145).
+1 :CAN MAURER Joshua (147).
+1 :KOR KIM Hyun-ki (153).

+10. Total - 65.

 

Without 12 countries for the team event (48 quotas), the other 17 quoats goes: :woot: 4 - :TUR, 3 - :KAZ :EST, 2 - :FRA :CAN :KOR, 1 - :UKR.

 

The next eligible athlete in CC who could be counted is :KAZ TKACHENKO Sergey (173) and he is the last in the CC standings.

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:RUS

Russia

 

Team Size prediction for Winter Olympic Games 2018 PyeongChang

 

Ski Sports

 

Alpine Skiing  (7) - Except Khoroshilov there are no any top-level athletes. But I think 5 skiers are the minimum fo us, we can take some more.

Cross Country Skiing  (20) - Russia should have the maximum.

Ski Jumping  (8) - It's possible to have 4 athletes both for men and women. But it can be a little less.

Nordic Combined  (2) - 2 athletes are the real goal. But if we will be able to qualified 3rd then we can take 4th for team event.

Freestyle Skiing  (21) - 4 women's quota for aeirals and for moguls are real. For the other events it's something like that: 2-3 for men's aeirals and for moguls. 2-4 for men's SX, 1-2 for women's SX, 0-2 for men's SBS, women's SBS, women's HP. 0-1 for men's HP.

Snowboarding  (19) - 4 men and 4 women should be for PGS. We can take 2-4 quotas for men's SBX and for women's too, 1-2 for men's SBS/BA and for women's too. 0-2 for men's HP, 0-1 for women's HP.

Biathlon  (11) - Men's team have to be full. Women's will include 6 athletes only if we will be lucky.

 

 

Skating Sports

 

Speed Skating  (18) - It is possible to stay outside team pursuit or mass-start events. But for the distances we will have a big team.

Short Track Speed Skating  (8) - For the distances we should have the maximum. I think men's team will qualify for the relay. But with women's relay can be some concerns.

Figure Skating  (15) - 3 women's quotas, 2 for pairs, 2 for duets and 2 for men's are the minimum. But 3 quotas for all are possible.

 

 

Sleigh Sports

 

Luge  (10) - 8-9 are for very bad results during the next season if we can't take 3rd woman or 2nd men's doubles quotas. 10 are the real goal.

Skeleton  (5) - 3 men and 2 women are the most possible team.

Bobsleigh  (16) - 12 are for very bad results. 16 are real with 3 crews in 4-men and 2 crews in 2-women. In 2-men it will be 2 or 3 crews.

 

 

Team Sports

 

Curling  (7) - Very good chances with women's and mixed-double teams. Men's qualifyng is the tough objective. But it is possible too.

Ice Hockey  (48) - Both team qualified.

 

 

We should qualified in the all 15 sports. And I think at least 1 athlete/team will start at the 90 olympic events (minimum). It is possible to have some more.

 


 

 

Total Optimistic Prediction  -  (240) too optimistic

Total Pessimistic Prediction  - (190) too pessimistic

 

Total Realistic Prediction  -  (215)

 

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On 2/5/2017 at 18:49, Mateusz said:

Do you know what is "quotas applied" column? I thought it is column with skiers who can compete in Pjongczang but when i click on Poland i didn't recognize the names :facepalm:

They are athletes which have the minimum pts for qualifying through the D.1 way for Poland in the qualifying rules. I would say FIS marked them like a "lower border" with their pts for the country. But of course Poland's federation can use anybody through the D.1 way who is upper of this border. You can find them if you click on Poland's number in the total column. After that change "Display" to "Only the not used for quota calculation".

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