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Provisional Standing after Day 4 Rank User Nation Total 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TB 1 Pablita 24 4 9 2 9 2 hukbrazil 21 3 3 6 9 3 Henry_Leon 20 1 9 1 9 3 tuniscof 20 3 6 2 9 3 Gianlu33 20 3 3 5 9 6 dcro 19 3 5 7 4 6 titicow 19 0 5 6 8 6 hckosice 19 0 8 2 9 9 heywoodu 17 2 5 2 8 9 amen09 17 0 4 5 8 11 LDOG 16 3 6 3 4 11 vlad 16 4 6 0 6 11 ady48 16 0 8 2 6 11 gvaisakh 16 3 5 1 7 11 Vinicius Vaz 16 - 5 1 10 16 MCMXC 15 3 6 1 5 16 kungshamra71 15 5 4 1 5 16 juliosilva 15 3 6 1 5 16 Mkbw50 15 3 3 1 8 20 Griff88 14 5 4 3 2 20 mrv86 14 3 6 1 4 20 uk12points 14 5 3 2 4 20 Danylove80 14 0 6 4 4 20 Crolympic 14 0 5 5 4 20 bestmen 14 3 5 1 5 20 vinipereira 14 1 6 2 5 20 James 14 0 4 4 6 28 SteveParker 13 3 6 2 2 28 Ufilov 13 3 4 2 4 30 Agger 12 3 2 2 5 31 OlympicIRL 11 0 4 5 2 31 thepharoah 11 0 3 2 6 33 tirtha22 10 - 5 4 1 33 Wanderer 10 0 7 1 2 35 mihamiha 9 0 6 1 2 35 Felipe 9 - 6 1 2 37 africaboy 8 3 3 1 1 38 Pabloffo 6 0 4 2 0 38 NikolaB 6 0 4 1 1 40 Federer91 5 0 3 1 1 01: Group Stage, June 3rd 02: Group Stage, June 4th 03: Group Stage, June 5th 04: Group Stage, June 6th 05: Group Stage, June 7th 06: Group Stage, June 8th 07: Group Stage, June 9th 08: Group Stage, June 10th 09: Group Stage, June 11th 10: Group Stage, June 12th 11: Group Stage, June 13th 12: Group Stage, June 14th 13: Quarterfinals, June 16th 14: Quarterfinals, June 17th 15: Quarterfinals, June 18th 16: Semifinals, June 21st 17: Semifinals, June 22nd 18: Bronze Medal Match, June 25th 19: Gold Medal Match, June 26th *= using Jolly Mistakes are always possible. If you have any complaint, please PM me.

Again we play better without Messi

I know they're "logically equivalent", but I don't agree in that is less confusing your way. Anyway it doesn't matter because the selection committee will "polish" all selected suggestions to avoid ambiguity as much as possible.

Please Heywoodu, no decimals for example, instead of "more than 2.5" write "at least 3".

Provisional Standing after Day 3 available here.

Provisional Standing after Day 3 Rank User Nation Total 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TB 1 Pablita 15 4 9 2 1 dcro 15 3 5 7 3 Griff88 12 5 4 3 3 LDOG 12 3 6 3 3 hukbrazil 12 3 3 6 6 Henry_Leon 11 1 9 1 6 SteveParker 11 3 6 2 6 tuniscof 11 3 6 2 6 Gianlu33 11 3 3 5 6 titicow 11 0 5 6 11 vlad 10 4 6 0 11 mrv86 10 3 6 1 11 MCMXC 10 3 6 1 11 kungshamra71 10 5 4 1 11 juliosilva 10 3 6 1 11 uk12points 10 5 3 2 11 hckosice 10 0 8 2 11 ady48 10 0 8 2 11 Danylove80 10 0 6 4 11 Crolympic 10 0 5 5 21 bestmen 9 3 5 1 21 gvaisakh 9 3 5 1 21 Ufilov 9 3 4 2 21 heywoodu 9 2 5 2 21 vinipereira 9 1 6 2 21 tirtha22 9 - 5 4 21 OlympicIRL 9 0 4 5 21 amen09 9 0 4 5 29 Wanderer 8 0 7 1 29 James 8 0 4 4 31 Mkbw50 7 3 3 1 31 africaboy 7 3 3 1 31 mihamiha 7 0 6 1 31 Felipe 7 - 6 1 31 Agger 7 3 2 2 36 Pabloffo 6 0 4 2 36 Vinicius Vaz 9 - 5 1 38 NikolaB 5 0 4 1 38 thepharoah 5 0 3 2 40 Federer91 4 0 3 1 01: Group Stage, June 3rd 02: Group Stage, June 4th 03: Group Stage, June 5th 04: Group Stage, June 6th 05: Group Stage, June 7th 06: Group Stage, June 8th 07: Group Stage, June 9th 08: Group Stage, June 10th 09: Group Stage, June 11th 10: Group Stage, June 12th 11: Group Stage, June 13th 12: Group Stage, June 14th 13: Quarterfinals, June 16th 14: Quarterfinals, June 17th 15: Quarterfinals, June 18th 16: Semifinals, June 21st 17: Semifinals, June 22nd 18: Bronze Medal Match, June 25th 19: Gold Medal Match, June 26th *= using Jolly Mistakes are always possible. If you have any complaint, please PM me.

I didn't say I liked that or that it was the best. I was just suggesting how it could improve from the point of view of FIVB, who doesn't want too many european teams.

Provisional Standing after Day 2 available here.

Provisional Standing after Day 2 .tg {border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0;} .tg td{font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;padding:10px 5px;border-style:solid;border-width:1px;overflow:hidden;word-break:normal;} .tg th{font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:normal;padding:10px 5px;border-style:solid;border-width:1px;overflow:hidden;word-break:normal;} .tg .tg-1dhv{font-weight:bold;font-size:18px;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif !important;;vertical-align:top} .tg .tg-qcnj{font-weight:bold;font-size:14px;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif !important;;vertical-align:top} .tg .tg-yw4l{vertical-align:top} Rank User Nation Total 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TB 1 Pablita 13 4 9 2 Henry_Leon 10 1 9 2 vlad 10 4 6 4 SteveParker 9 3 6 4 mrv86 9 3 6 4 tuniscof 9 3 6 4 MCMXC 9 3 6 4 Griff88 9 5 4 4 kungshamra71 9 5 4 4 LDOG 9 3 6 4 juliosilva 9 3 6 12 bestmen 8 3 5 12 uk12points 8 5 3 12 dcro 8 3 5 12 gvaisakh 8 3 5 12 ady48 8 0 8 12 hckosice 8 0 8 18 Ufilov 7 3 4 18 heywoodu 7 2 5 18 vinipereira 7 1 6 18 Wanderer 7 0 7 22 Mkbw50 6 3 3 22 africaboy 6 3 3 22 hukbrazil 6 3 3 22 Gianlu33 6 3 3 22 mihamiha 6 0 6 22 Danylove80 6 0 6 22 Felipe 6 - 6 29 Agger 5 3 2 29 titicow 5 0 5 29 Crolympic 5 0 5 29 tirtha22 5 - 5 29 Vinicius Vaz 5 - 5 34 NikolaB 4 0 4 34 James 4 0 4 34 Pabloffo 4 0 4 34 OlympicIRL 4 0 4 34 amen09 4 0 4 39 thepharoah 3 0 3 39 Federer91 3 0 3 01: Group Stage, June 3rd 02: Group Stage, June 4th 03: Group Stage, June 5th 04: Group Stage, June 6th 05: Group Stage, June 7th 06: Group Stage, June 8th 07: Group Stage, June 9th 08: Group Stage, June 10th 09: Group Stage, June 11th 10: Group Stage, June 12th 11: Group Stage, June 13th 12: Group Stage, June 14th 13: Quarterfinals, June 16th 14: Quarterfinals, June 17th 15: Quarterfinals, June 18th 16: Semifinals, June 21st 17: Semifinals, June 22nd 18: Bronze Medal Match, June 25th 19: Gold Medal Match, June 26th *= using Jolly Mistakes are always possible. If you have any complaint, please PM me.

I think the reason of that may be that you are not really liberal, but libertarian. And fortunately that won't ever exist in a culture like ours which has a strong concept of collectivism. Just a few wackos like you or Jose Luis Espert thrown around (no offense) Also Macri isn't anything, he doesn't have any ideology or plan. Calling him liberal or socialdemocrat or anything is thinking too highly of his or his team's intelectual capacity. He's just a product of marketing who has some blurred, scattered, ideas about economy/government and practicises them erratically even though many are contradictory to each other.

Konig uses "liberal" in a different sense than you do, he would be what in Europe you call a "conservative". Like Merkel, Rajoy, Cameron, etc

Ok, so... A - B -

This Copa sucks because the scheduling was bad, too close to the end of the season. All teams have the best players injured to some degree. There should have been at least one more week of preparation for the teams.

What I mean is, if the intercontinental tournament would be, instead of Mexico, Chile, Tunisia and Algeria, let's say... Australia, Venezuela, Canada and Tunisia it wouldn't be that bad, right?

It's obvious that the intercontinental qualifier has an ideologic motive behind: to increase non-european representation at the olympics. I don't think that's bad per se, but I see two fatal flaws in it: a) that they send the 3rd, not the 2nd teams from N. & S. America b) that Asia has no access to it whatsoever. Asian teams have only two chances for olympics (world cup and asian qualifier) while every other continent is having 3.

This Canadian team really sucks at dealing with pressure in every important game the same happens to them.

Mexico won 3-1. Now with 2 sets vs Tunisia they go to olympics.

Well, Chile won a set against Brazil A team last year and I have seen both Chile and Tunisia play vs Argentina recently and to me Chile was stronger. They have two good attacking players (Gevert and Bonacic) that neither Tunisia or Mexico seem to have. Still, Mexico is favorite at home. Edit: Though Gevert seems to be injured for this tournament.

Well, France can't affect the outcome of the qualifiers. The focus should be in Poland instead. I think Iran will beat them easily today, and I wonder what they will do vs Australia tomorrow. That's the most important match of all.

Provisional Standing after Day 1 available here.

Provisional Standing after Day 1 .tg {border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0;} .tg td{font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;padding:10px 5px;border-style:solid;border-width:1px;overflow:hidden;word-break:normal;} .tg th{font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:normal;padding:10px 5px;border-style:solid;border-width:1px;overflow:hidden;word-break:normal;} .tg .tg-1dhv{font-weight:bold;font-size:18px;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif !important;;vertical-align:top} .tg .tg-qcnj{font-weight:bold;font-size:14px;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif !important;;vertical-align:top} .tg .tg-yw4l{vertical-align:top} Rank User Nation Total 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TB 1 uk12points 5 5 2 griff88 5 5 3 kungshamra71 5 5 4 Pablita 4 4 5 vlad 4 4 6 bestmen 3 3 7 LDOG 3 3 8 hukbrazil 3 3 9 juliosilva 3 3 10 dcro 3 3 11 Agger 3 3 12 MCMXC 3 3 13 Mkbw50 3 3 14 gvaisakh 3 3 15 Gianlu33 3 3 16 SteveParker 3 3 17 mrv86 3 3 18 ufilov 3 3 19 africaboy 3 3 20 tuniscof 3 3 21 heywoodu 2 2 22 vinipereira 1 1 23 Henry_Leon 1 1 24 titicow 0 0 25 Federer91 0 0 26 Pabloffo 0 0 27 Crolympic 0 0 28 thepharoah 0 0 29 James 0 0 30 OlympicIRL 0 0 31 Danylove80 0 0 32 Wanderer 0 0 33 ady48 0 0 34 NikolaB 0 0 35 hckosice 0 0 36 mihamiha 0 0 37 amen09 0 0 01: Group Stage, June 3rd 02: Group Stage, June 4th 03: Group Stage, June 5th 04: Group Stage, June 6th 05: Group Stage, June 7th 06: Group Stage, June 8th 07: Group Stage, June 9th 08: Group Stage, June 10th 09: Group Stage, June 11th 10: Group Stage, June 12th 11: Group Stage, June 13th 12: Group Stage, June 14th 13: Quarterfinals, June 16th 14: Quarterfinals, June 17th 15: Quarterfinals, June 18th 16: Semifinals, June 21st 17: Semifinals, June 22nd 18: Bronze Medal Match, June 25th 19: Gold Medal Match, June 26th *= using Jolly Mistakes are always possible. If you have any complaint, please PM me.

Boring and dull opening ceremony as expected. I'll state it now before the tournament starts: the final will be played by two out of Uruguay, Mexico and Argentina. And Argentina won't win it.

I think there's a lot of truth in what you say, and it is probably like you say but... still, 0 footballers tested positive in Beijing and London. In fact, 0 team sport athletes tested positive in both games. Doesn't mean of course that they don't dope in the 3 years and 11 months in middle, but give me that and not the joke we see in weightlifting.

I think most of the world is doped in every sport, but at least those which aren't "mark sports" aren't all about physical condition (there's tactics, styles, etc). In weightlifting, athletics, etc it's all about who is the strongest/fastest and that is 100% up to how much and how sophisticated they dope. Thanks god my country sucks in all of them otherwise I wouldn't enjoy success to the fullest.