Serbia National Thread

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23 minutes ago, ChandlerMne said:

Iako jesi u pravu,cinjenica je da je Ilic najodgovorniji za katastrofalno stanje u veslanju. Predsjednici su se mijenjali,cak i treneri,jedino je on konstanta. I sta je uradio? Svi smo slozni,bas nista. Od sporta koji je imao podjednaku ako ne i vecu perspektivu od kajaka dobili smo sport u kome na OI idemo kao turisti. Komparacijom ova dva sporta imamo.uvid koliko se lose ili dobro radilo. Kajak 2008 bez takmicara a sad imamo po 10 njih i jednu medalju. Za Tokio su sanse realne i za koju vise. Veslanje sa druge strane, 2-6 takmicara,nijedan rezultat vrijedan paznje jos od dvojca iz 2000. Trening nije isti,ali makar su principi slicni. E tu dolaze do izrazaja treneri,da procijene sta ne valja a ovi nasi lutaju i to godinama. Recimo,Iva Obradovic je setala od skifa,dubl skula do dvojca i od 2008 nije bila na velikoj sceni,a talenat nije da nije imala. Sada se isto uradilo sa dvojcem. Mijenja se stroker a rezultat nikad gori. Ovolika razlika za Sinkovicima,sramota. Od njih su morali da budu znacajno bolji. Nije cak ni to problem,ima vremena do Tokia,ali sta se desilo sa timom koji je imao svjetsku medalju u Riu? Niko nije snosio odgovornost za to. Dubk skul koji je imao potencijal je rasturen. Zensko veslanje ni ne postoji. Forsiraju se nebitni SK gdje nastupi C liga pa se onda hvale medaljom. Na bilo kom jakom SK osim dvojca i to ponekad,niko ne moze ni u finale. Pred Rio smo na SP u Ozibejeu imali laki skif,totalni nonsens. Da li znaju da je to rasipanje resursa na gluposti? I tako dalje i dalje... spisak gresaka i krivica je jako dug a onaj ko to treba da rijesi cuti. Umjesto da imamo savez koji salje na OI 20+ takmicara i koji moze da cilja medalje imamo organizaciju koja je zadovoljna da nekako,na jedvite jade,posalje posadu dvije,a potom da obrazlaze neuspjehe stanjem na stazi i slicno... I nista se nece promijeniti ni sada...

jos nesto sto zabrinjava jeste kakvo je interesovanje za ovaj sport

 

neka je to bilo i ''cool'' trenirati (npr film Bal na vodi :D), i pre svega je zdrav sport

 

sad kad su rezultati slabi ko zna koliko dece moze da se privuce, da nema lakseg odlaska preko veslanja na studije u Ameriku ko zna kako bi bilo

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1 hour ago, DaniSRB said:

jos nesto sto zabrinjava jeste kakvo je interesovanje za ovaj sport

 

neka je to bilo i ''cool'' trenirati (npr film Bal na vodi :D), i pre svega je zdrav sport

 

sad kad su rezultati slabi ko zna koliko dece moze da se privuce, da nema lakseg odlaska preko veslanja na studije u Ameriku ko zna kako bi bilo

 

Moj drug je bivši veslač i kaže mi da je stanje katastrofalno, na svim nivoima...

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Vasić/Beđik solidni u repesažu Ne znam zašto ovako nisu veslali i u kvalama i direktno prošli u PF  

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From today to Sunday Belgrade´s Arena Pionir will host the first round of the IIHF Continental Cup 2017/18, IIHF released in this occasion a interesting reading about the host team CZ Belgrade

 

Guiding star

Serbian powerhouse front-runners in development

The Crvena Zvezda Belgrade celebrate a win, as of today they will host the first round of the IIHF Continental Cup.

 

 

Despite a domestic title drought dating back to 2005, Continental Cup first-round host Crvena Zvezda Belgrade is now ready to rise up again at all levels.

 

For a multi-sports club of such great magnitude where only top spot is deemed good enough, Crvena Zvezda (”Red Star”) has been forced to endure twelve painstakingly long seasons as second best.

First arch-rivals Partizan Belgrade embarked on a trophy haul of 11 consecutive league titles between 2006-16 before new boys HK Beograd came to the forefront to hoist the domestic championship last season.

 

But with Partizan's senior team currently in hibernation and HK Beograd deciding to pull the plug after just one season in what was then the Hungarian-Romanian MOL Liga, Crvena Zvezda is now stepping out from the shadows for their much-awaited place in the limelight.

Hosting Group A of the Continental Cup in Belgrade's Pionir Ice Rink this weekend, the Serbian traditional powerhouse will take on Irbis-Skate Sofia from neighbouring Bulgaria, Turkey's Zeytinburnu Istanbul and newcomers Esja Reykjavik from Iceland.

 

In an attempt to hit the ground running during a season which promises a lot, Crvena Zvezda sharpened their skills in Belarus during an intensive pre-season camp ahead of getting their 2017/18 season underway in the new cross-border International Hockey League, IHL, with road games in Slovenia this month.

 

In the ten-team strong joint-venture between Slovenia, Serbia, and Croatia, Crvena Zvezda appears to have found a fitting stage for their continued progress.

 

“The IHL is a perfect match for us,” said the club's Belarusian head coach Igor Krivoshlyk. “Our goal is to develop Serbian players, not to spend a huge amount of money on imports. At the moment we can afford this league and we are hoping it will be the long-term plan for us. We hope to be competitive with our domestic players and then in the future, we'll see if we are capable of bigger things,” he said.

 

Krivoshlyk first got introduced to Crvena Zvezda during a stint as head coach in 2000/01. Having since amassed vast experience from coaching in the Belarusian leagues as well as in the Russian second-tier league VHL and the junior league MHL, he answered the call to return to Crvena Zvezda last season when he also worked as the head coach of the Serbian U20 national team.

 

Ahead of this season came the sudden demise of two rivals in the Serbian capital, which directly was to benefit Krivoshlyk in his quest for success. With players jumping ship from what once had been HK Beograd, Crvena Zvezda turned effectively overnight into a club version of the Serbian national team that won bronze at the 2017 IIHF Ice Hockey World Championship Division II Group A in Galati last April.

 

With the senior team now having been considerably bolstered, further down the pecking order Crvena Zvezda is continuing to make strides. Former national team player Jovica Rus is the coordinator for the junior program at Crvena Zvezda where the development of youngsters is following the path of the senior team. Following years were strengthening ties with Hungary had been in focus, attention for the continued progress for the club's next generation is now focused on cooperation with Slovenia and Croatia. During the 2017/18 season, Crvena Zvezda will compete with four different age groups ranging from U12 to U18 in a blossoming international exchange, which the club hopes to reap the rewards of in years to come.

 

“If we play against better opponents we will also get better,” said Rus, who also lines up a few of the challenges hindering hockey’s future prosperity in Serbia: “We need more clubs to have a clear development strategy if we want progress of Serbian hockey. Also, we need improvements in infrastructure. At the moment we only have one operative rink in the whole of Serbia. At least three more are needed,” he said.

 

With an emphatic 7-1 win on the road in Slovenia's Maribor being a fine dress rehearsal for Crvena Zvezda ahead of the Continental Cup, the hosts now hope to turn up the heat in front of their home crowd where sealing top spot would mean participation in the next round played in Brasov, Romania.

 

“Every team wants to win and we are no exception,” said Crvena Zvezda head coach Krivoshlyk. “We have a young team, but also experience with imports and Serbian national team players in our dressing room. Now we want to show the Serbian hockey community that we can play a high level of hockey,” he said.

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Milici srebro u Zagrebu!!

Odlicno sto ce samo jedna Japanka biti na OI

Sada gledam ko ucestvuje jos i vidim da se Dosen takmici u kateg. -100 hahah, on se inace takmicio prosle godine u kateg. -81, da li je ovo zeleo da izbegne kateg. -90 ili je slucajnost da nabaci ovoliku masu Nije neki bitan takmicar za nas ali opet haha, jos bi bila fora da Kukolj predje u kateg. -100

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5 hours ago, Jesse_Pinkman) said:

Milici srebro u Zagrebu!!

Odlicno sto ce samo jedna Japanka biti na OI

Sada gledam ko ucestvuje jos i vidim da se Dosen takmici u kateg. -100 hahah, on se inace takmicio prosle godine u kateg. -81, da li je ovo zeleo da izbegne kateg. -90 ili je slucajnost da nabaci ovoliku masu Nije neki bitan takmicar za nas ali opet haha, jos bi bila fora da Kukolj predje u kateg. -100

 

Možda će Kukolj preći u -81

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34 minutes ago, Майкл said:

 

Možda će Kukolj preći u -81

Moze samo Majdov u -81 a Kukolj nema sanse bar po gradji!!

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Veslaci poslednji,ocekivano 

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12 minutes ago, ChandlerMne said:

Veslaci poslednji,ocekivano 

 

Nema veze, bitno je da su u A finalu bili poslednji 

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Ako cemo iskreno, najvise su pokazel Josic i Slijepcevic. 9. mesto za njih dve uopste nije lose. Jeste da je bilo samo 11 ekipa, ali su nisu bile uopste daleko od top 6. Josic studira u USA inace, tako da mozda jos vise napreduje sl godine.

 

Od Vasica i Bedjika je i ovo super. Ja sam mislio da nece ni u finale. A Marijanovic solidno. On ce uzeti kvotu za OI ako ostane u M1x, ali to je mx.  I plasim se da mi nikoga vise necemo imati na OI. Uvek se isti vrte.