Southeast Asian Games 2025

[dcmdtruefan 40]

31 minutes ago, Griff88 said:

I think business as usual, because we are not mining medals in swimming and athletics. At best we could be third on the medal tally.

 

Our aquatics federation did a lot of preparation compared to previous editions, let's see how they fare against Singapore and Vietnam. Athletics held training camp in Japan and Kenya. In badminton we only send the best young athletes, but people expect Thailand to dominate as they send all their world class players (as you might expect from a host).

I can see Indonesia's athletics and swimming teams doing slightly better than in 2023 since their junior teams are improving and they have facilities from the 2018 Asian Games that are conducive to some quality training. However, it will take time from them to challenge the top 2 spots in the medal tally of those respective sports, perhaps by 2029. I think archery and tennis will be some of the Indonesia's best performing Olympic sports in this year's Sea Games. I think their men's football and volleyball teams has a 50-50 chance to defend their gold medals. 

 

In terms of badminton, I don't think the Thai players are too ethusiastic in competing in the Sea Games, especially the ones who are qualified to compete in the world tour finals. They know that the Thai sports authorities and badminton association are calling them up so they can fulfill their gold medal targets and KPI goals so the governing body can get more government funding. 

 

I can tell you based on social media updates that Kunlavut Vitidsarn is not going to compete in the individual event as he stated as such to Thai media as of yesterday. He stated that he will only compete in the team event as he is recovering from his wisdom tooth surgery weeks ago and is only 80 percent fit at the moment and wants to preserve his health for the world tour finals. I am happy about that and I hope that the other Thais such as Pornpawee, Dechapol, Supissara and Ratchanok will follow suit and not compete in the individual events because the Sea Games is really a venue for the youngsters and the more accomplished players should focus on the world tour finals. 

Edited December 3 by dcmdtruefan

[Griff88 2,008]

2 hours ago, dcmdtruefan said:

In terms of badminton, I don't think the Thai players are too ethusiastic in competing in the Sea Games, especially the ones who are qualified to compete in the world tour finals. They know that the Thai sports authorities and badminton association are calling them up so they can fulfill their gold medal targets and KPI goals so the governing body can get more government funding. 

 

I can tell you based on social media updates that Kunlavut Vitidsarn is not going to compete in the individual event as he stated as such to Thai media as of yesterday. He stated that he will only compete in the team event as he is recovering from his wisdom tooth surgery weeks ago and is only 80 percent fit at the moment and wants to preserve his health for the world tour finals. I am happy about that and I hope that the other Thais such as Pornpawee, Dechapol, Supissara and Ratchanok will follow suit and not compete in the individual events because the Sea Games is really a venue for the youngsters and the more accomplished players should focus on the world tour finals. 

Yeah there was a dispute regarding stipend months earlier among the top players and the BAT for the SEA Games. Pornpawee had actually resigned from the team but after a few negotiations, she stays in the team. The players who had qualified for the World Tour Finals must be under pressure by the higher ups, as the scheduling made it possible to actually play in individual events and later in the World Tour Finals.

[PHI2019 309]

Only saw this article today. Really getting rusty.

 

10 SEA Games events moved to Bangkok after Songkhla flooding

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sport/sea-games-songkhla-flood-hat-yai-events-relocated-bangkok-5495171

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Schedule and results: https://wrs.gmsmate.com/seagames2025/

 

Broadcast graphics looks quite good too

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for those who are interested (especially in the Western World), the OTT service MeWatch from  has 3 live channels and full ondemand content available (with English commentary)

 

Free registration is necessary, as also a  VPN

[Griff88 2,008]

Well that was a disappointing opening ceremony. Not to mention the boss is late too...

 

Anyway this is another victim of bureaucracy, the initial creative director quit in October and we get this kind of show.

 

Original plan:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17EVayTpig/

[dcmdtruefan 40]

4 hours ago, Griff88 said:

Well that was a disappointing opening ceremony. Not to mention the boss is late too...

 

Anyway this is another victim of bureaucracy, the initial creative director quit in October and we get this kind of show.

 

Original plan:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17EVayTpig/

Yeah. It was pretty bad that they cancel the contract with the original creative director after 7 months of work. I feel like politics, in this particular context of the changing of prime minister and the cabinet, may had caused changes in organizational decisions regarding the Sea Games including the direction of the opening ceremony. 

[dcmdtruefan 40]

On 11/30/2025 at 1:05 AM, dcmdtruefan said:

As I have stated earlier I would write up my SEA Games predictions for the Olympic sport events. Here is my detalied predictions with the name of the country winning in each of the 262 Olympic events hosted in LA 2028 and 5 weighlifting events hosted in Paris 2024

 

Total: Thailand 90, Singapore 50, Vietnam 47, Indonesia 33, Philippines 24, Malaysia 20, Cambodia 2

 Aquatics-Artistic Swimming (2): Singapore 1, Thailand 1

 W: Duet: Singapore; MX: Team: Thailand

 

Aquatics-Diving (3): Malaysia 2, Thailand 1

 Men: 3 m Springboard: Thailand, Synchronized 3 m: Malaysia

 Women: Synchronized 10 m: Malaysia

 
Aquatics-Swimming (40): Singapore 24, Vietnam 6, Philippines 4, Thailand 3, Malaysia 2, Indonesia 1

 Men: 50 m Freestyle: Singapore, 100 m Freestyle: Singapore, 200 m Freestyle: Malaysia, 400 m Freestyle: Malaysia, 1,500 m Freestyle: Vietnam, 50 m Backstroke: Singapore, 100 m Backstroke: Singapore, 200 m Backstroke: Singapore, 50 m Breaststroke: Indonesia, 100 m Breaststroke: Vietnam, 200 m Breaststroke: Vietnam, 50 m Butterfly: Singapore, 100 m Butterfly: Singapore, 200 m Butterfly: Thailand, 200 m Individual Medley: Vietnam, 400 m Individual Medley: Vietnam, 4 x 100 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 200 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 100 m Medley Relay: Singapore, 10 km Open Water: Vietnam

 Women: 50 m Freestyle: Singapore, 100 m Freestyle: Philippines, 200 m Freestyle: Singapore, 400 m Freestyle: Singapore, 800 m Freestyle: Singapore, 50 m Backstroke: Philippines, 100 m Backstroke: Philippines, 200 m Backstroke: Philippines, 50 m Breaststroke: Singapore, 100 m Breaststroke: Singapore, 200 m Breaststroke: Singapore, 50 m Butterfly: Singapore, 100 m Butterfly: Singapore, 200 m Butterfly: Thailand, 200 m Individual Medley: Singapore, 400 m Individual Medley: Thailand, 4 x 100 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 200 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 100 m Medley Relay: Singapore, 10 km Open Water: Singapore

 
Aquatics-Water Polo (2): Singapore 1, Thailand 1

 Men’s Team: Singapore; Women’s Team: Thailand

 

Archery (6): Indonesia 4, Vietnam 1

 
Men: Olympic Recurve Individual: Indonesia, Olympic Recurve Team: Indonesia

Women: Olympic Recurve Individual: Indonesia, Olympic Recurve Team: Indonesia

 Mixed: Olympic Recurve Team: Vietnam, Olympic Compound Team: Indonesia

 
Athletics (47): Thailand 15, Vietnam 15, Indonesia 7, Philippines 4, Singapore 4, Malaysia 2

 Men: 100 m: Thailand, 200 m: Thailand, 400 m: Vietnam, 800 m: Malaysia, 1,500 m: Thailand, 5,000 m: Thailand, 10,000 m: Thailand, 3,000 m Steeplechase: Vietnam, 110 m Hurdles: Singapore, 400 m Hurdles: Singapore, 4 x 100 m Relay: Thailand, 4 x 400 m Relay: Vietnam, Marathon: Indonesia, 20 km Walk: Indonesia, High Jump: Thailand, Pole Vault: Philippines, Long Jump: Vietnam, Triple Jump: Thailand, Shot Put: Philippines, Discus Throw: Malaysia, Hammer Throw: Thailand, Javelin Throw: Indonesia, Decathlon: Thailand

 Women: 100 m: Singapore, 200 m: Singapore, 400 m: Vietnam, 800 m: Vietnam, 1,500 m: Vietnam, 5,000 m: Vietnam, 10,000 m: Indonesia, 3,000 m Steeplechase: Vietnam, 100 m Hurdles: Indonesia, 400 m Hurdles: Philippines, 4 x 100 m Relay: Thailand, 4 x 400 m Relay: Vietnam, Marathon: Indonesia, 20 km Walk: Vietnam, High Jump: Vietnam, Pole Vault: Indonesia, Long Jump: Vietnam, Triple Jump: Vietnam, Shot Put: Thailand, Discus Throw: Thailand, Hammer Throw: Thailand, Javelin Throw: Thailand, Heptathlon: Philippines

 MX: 4 x 400 m Relay: Vietnam
 

 

Badminton (5): Malaysia 2, Thailand 2, Indonesia 1

 Men’s Singles: Thailand, Women’s Singles: Indonesia, Men’s Doubles: Malaysia, Women’s Doubles: Malaysia, Mixed Doubles: Thailand

 
Basketball (2): Philippines 2

Men’s Team: Philippines, Women’s Team: Philippines

 

Basketball 3x3 (2): Philippines 1, Thailand 1

 Men’s 3x3 Team: Philippines, Women’s 3x3 Team: Thailand

 
Boxing (11): Thailand 7, Philippines 4

Men: -57 kg (-55 kg): Philippines, -60 kg: Thailand, -63.5 kg (-65 kg): Thailand, -69 kg (-70 kg): Thailand, -80 kg: Philippines

 Women: -50 kg (-51 kg): Thailand, -54 kg: Thailand, -57 kg: Thailand, -60 kg: Philippines, -66 kg (-65 kg): Thailand, -70 kg: Philippines

 
Canoeing (5): Thailand 4, Vietnam 1

 Men: Slalom: C1: Thailand, K1: Thailand

 Women: Sprint: C2 500 m: Vietnam; Slalom: C1: Thailand, K1: Thailand

 
Cycling (8): Thailand 5, Malaysia 3

 Men: Road Race: Thailand, Time Trial: Thailand, Team Sprint: Malaysia, Team Pursuit: Malaysia, Keirin: Malaysia, BMX: Thailand

 Women: Road Race: Thailand, Time Trial: Thailand

 
Equestrian (6): Thailand 5, Philippines 1

 Mixed: Dressage Individual: Philippines, Dressage Team: Thailand, Eventing Individual: Thailand, Eventing Team: Thailand, Show Jumping Individual: Thailand, Show Jumping Team: Thailand

 

Fencing (12): Singapore 9, Philippines 1, Thailand 1, Cambodia 1

 Men: Eppe Individual: Singapore, Foil Individual: Philippines, Sabre Individual: Thailand, Eppe Team: Singapore, Foil Team: Singapore, Sabre Team: Singapore;

 Women: Eppe Individual: Singapore, Foil Individual: Cambodia, Sabre Individual: Singapore, Eppe Team: Singapore, Foil Team: Singapore, Sabre Team: Singapore

 
Field Hockey (2): Malaysia 2

 Men’s Team: Malaysia, Women’s Team: Malaysia

 

Football (2): Thailand 1, Vietnam 1

Men’s Team: Thailand, Women’s Team: Vietnam

 
Golf (2): Thailand 2

Men’s Individual: Thailand, Women’s Individual: Thailand

 
Gymnastics (12): Vietnam 4, Singapore 2, Thailand 2, Malaysia 2, Philippines 1, Indonesia 1

 Men: Floor Exercise: Thailand, Pommel Horse: Vietnam, Rings: Vietnam, Vault: Philippines, Parallel Bars: Vietnam, Horizontal Bar: Indonesia

 Women: Floor Exercise: Thailand, Vault: Vietnam, Uneven Bars: Malaysia, Balance Beam: Singapore, Rhythmic All-Around: Singapore, Rhythmic Group: Malaysia;


Handball (2): Thailand 1, Vietnam 1

Men’s Team: Thailand; Women’s Team: Vietnam

 
Judo (9): Thailand 6, Vietnam 2, Philippines 1

 Men: -73 kg: Thailand, -81 kg: Thailand, -90 kg: Vietnam, -100 kg: Philippines

 Women: -57 kg: Vietnam, -70 kg: Thailand, -78 kg: Thailand, +78 kg: Thailand  

 Mixed: Team: Thailand

 
Rowing (7): Vietnam 3, Thailand 2, Indonesia 2

 Men: Single Sculls: Indonesia, Double Sculls: Indonesia, Coastal Single Sculls: Thailand

 Women: Double Sculls: Vietnam, Quadruple Sculls: Vietnam, Fours: Vietnam, Coastal Single Sculls: Thailand   

 
Rugby (2): Thailand 2

Men’s Sevens: Thailand, Women’s Sevens: Thailand

 
Sailing (7): Thailand 5, Singapore 2

 Men: iqFoil: Thailand, ICLA 7: Singapore, Kiteboarding: Singapore  

 Women: iqFoil: Thailand, ICLA 6: Thailand, Kiteboarding: Thailand

 Mixed: 470: Thailand

 
Shooting (13): Thailand 4, Vietnam 3, Singapore 3, Malaysia 2, Indonesia 1

 Men: Rifle 3x 40: Thailand, Air Pistol: Malaysia, 25 m Rapid Fire Pistol: Vietnam, Trap: Singapore, Skeet: Malaysia

 Women: Air Rifle: Thailand, Rifle 3x 40: Singapore, Air Pistol: Vietnam, 25 m Pistol: Vietnam, Trap: Thailand, Skeet: Thailand

 Mixed: Air Rifle Team: Singapore, Air Pistol Team: Indonesia

 
Skateboarding (4): Indonesia 2, Thailand 1, Philippines 1

 Men: Street: Indonesia, Park: Philippines

 Women: Street: Thailand, Park: Indonesia

 
Sport Climbing (6): Indonesia 3, Thailand 2, Singapore 1

 Men: Bouldering: Thailand, Lead: Thailand, Speed: Indonesia

 Women: Bouldering: Singapore, Lead: Indonesia, Speed: Indonesia

 
Table Tennis (5): Singapore 3, Thailand 2

Men’s Singles: Singapore, Women’s Singles: Thailand, Men’s Doubles: Singapore, Women’s Doubles: Thailand, Mixed Doubles: Singapore

 

Taekwondo (8): Thailand 5, Vietnam 3

 Men: -58 kg: Thailand, -68 kg: Thailand, -80 kg: Thailand, -87 kg (+80 kg): Thailand

 Women: -49 kg: Thailand, -57 kg: Vietnam, -67 kg: Vietnam, -73 kg (+67 kg): Vietnam

 
Tennis (5): Indonesia 3, Thailand 2

Men’s Singles: Thailand, Women’s Singles: Indonesia, Men’s Doubles: Thailand, Women’s Doubles: Indonesia, Mixed Doubles: Indonesia

 
Triathlon (3): Indonesia 3

Men’s Individual: Indonesia, Women’s Individual: Indonesia, Mixed Relay Team: Indonesia

 
Volleyball (2): Indonesia 1, Thailand 1  

Men’s Team: Indonesia, Women’s Team: Thailand

 
Beach Volleyball (2): Indonesia 1, Thailand 1

Men’s Beach: Indonesia, Women’s Beach: Thailand
 

 

Weightlifting (5): Thailand 4, Philippines 1

 Men: -61 kg: Thailand, -73 kg: Thailand

 Women: -49 kg: Thailand, -59 kg: Thailand, -71 kg: Philippines

 
Wrestling (12): Vietnam 7, Indonesia 3, Philippines 1, Cambodia 1

 Men's Freestyle: -57 kg: Philippines, -65 kg: Vietnam, -74 kg: Vietnam, -86 kg: Cambodia

Men's Greco-Roman: -60 kg: Vietnam, -67 kg: Indonesia, -77 kg: Indonesia, -87 kg: Indonesia

Women's Freestyle: -50 kg: Vietnam, -53 kg: Vietnam, -57 kg: Vietnam, -62 kg: Vietnam
 

 

Baseball & Softball (2): Philippines 2

Men’s Baseball: Philippines, Women’s Softball: Philippines

 
Cricket (2): Malaysia 1, Thailand 1

 Men’s T20: Malaysia, Women’s T20: Thailand

 
Squash (2): Malaysia 2

Men’s Singles: Malaysia, Women’s Singles: Malaysia

 

Most of my predictions were made in combination of factors of performances in international competitions in 2025 as well as in the 2024 Olympics and the lastest SEA Games. Some sports that I don't have enough information to go by such as Judo or Wrestling has forced to make those predictions with a less than 50 percent certainty.  

About 2-3 months ago, I would have guess that Thailand's numbers would be nearer to 80 rather than 90 as their quality in major Olympic Sports (i.e. Athletics, Swimming, Shooting, Gymnastics) have declined over the past decade or so. According to my predictions, despite such struggles, Thailand's overall quality in other Olympic Sports is enough to paper through the cracks in the development of its Olympic sports program. It would be an embarassment to myself at least if Thailand is not able to win the gold medal count in either of the four major Olympic sports.

 

Singapore would finish second due to its enormous strength in swmming as well as improving in athletics, gymnastics and shooting. I wouldn't expect Vietnam to win only 47 Olympic events as it has dominated the Olympic events count for the past three editions, but their lack of adequate funding may explain the reason of their potential underperformance in these predictions. 

 

Malaysia, Indonesia and Philippines all have lower numbers of expected Olympic events won in this year's edition as they are impacted by the number of Olympic events that was cut from the SEA Games, especially in gymnastics, cycling, canoeing and rowing. 

 

If I have the time in the enxt week or so before the games begins, I will preview some of the key Olympic Sports hosted at Thailand with some highlights of interesting events and likely rising stars. And of course, at the end of the games, we will look back at how accurate my predictions are.   

After looking at the entry list of athletes in the official website, I've changed some of my predictions in the Olympic events with these changes:

 

Total Tally: Thailand 87, Singapore 51, Vietnam 48, Indonesia 33, Philippines 24, Malaysia 22, Cambodia 1

 

 

Badminton (5): Malaysia 2, Thailand 1, Singapore 1, Indonesia 1

 

Men’s Singles: Switched from Thailand to Singapore

 

 

Boxing (11): Thailand 8, Philippines 2, Vietnam 1

 

Men: -54 kg (-55 kg): Thailand, -60 kg: Thailand, -63.5 kg (-65 kg): Thailand, -69 kg (-70 kg): Thailand, -80 kg: Philippines

 

Women: -50 kg (-51 kg): Thailand, -54 kg: Thailand, -57 kg: Thailand, -60 kg: Vietnam, -66 kg (-65 kg): Thailand, -70 kg: Philippines

 

 

Sailing (7): Thailand 4, Singapore 2, Malaysia 1

 

ICLA 6: Switched from Thailand to Malaysia

 

 

Taekwondo (8): Thailand 6, Vietnam 2

 

-67 kg: Switched from  Vietnam to Thailand

 

 

Weightlifting (5): Thailand 2, Philippines 1, Indonesia 1, Malaysia 1

 

Men: -65 kg: Malaysia, -94 kg (-95 kg): Thailand

 

Women: -53 kg: Thailand, -69 kg: Philippines, -77 kg: Indonesia

 

* I saw that they have actually change the weight categories to almost match that of IWF newly introduced categories from several months ago. 

 

 

Wrestling (12): Vietnam 7, Philippines 3, Indonesia 2

 

Men's Freestyle: -57 kg: Philippines, -65 kg: Vietnam, -74 kg: Vietnam, -86 kg: Philippines

Men's Greco-Roman: -67 kg: Indonesia, -77 kg: Vietnam, -87 kg: Indonesia, -97 kg: Vietnam

Women's Freestyle: -50 kg: Vietnam, -53 kg: Vietnam, -57 kg: Vietnam, -62 kg: Philippines

 

 

[dcmdtruefan 40]

For the summary and lowlights of Thailand's preparation in hosting the ongoing Sea Games, I kindly suggest those who are interested to read from this English language article from Thai media outlet, Thai Enquirer: https://www.thaienquirer.com/63469/thailands-sea-games-2025-under-fire-budget-management-and-technical-controversies/