17 y.o Anna Maksymenko won a gold medal in this week Grand Prix. It's her first individual medal and second general at the senior WC/GP level, and I believe she may be one of the youngest winners in history 
ExpandShemyakina that was a very strange story. She unexpectedly won the games but before and after she literally achieved nothing. After that success in 2012 she also completely disappeared. It's only in epee that such strange situations. That's why I've always preferred foil and sabre, because the top was more stable there, although that's changing now. The competition has grown a lot all over the world.
Shemyakina won a bronze medal in 2014 Worlds and was one of our leader but leave the squad due to pregnancy (she has 2 daughters if I'm not mistaking, so she chose family instead of sport). And speaking of foil we have back in the day Sergiy Golubitskyi, who was Olympic silver medalist and won some medals in other competitions and coached his wife Caroline Golubitskyi - one of the German foil specialists. Even in women's foil we had medal in Women's foil at the European championship - it was Olha Leleiko, our current national coach. So no, we are pretty good fencing country, and depending on generations of our athletes some events are more "profitable" for us and some don't.
ExpandUntil recently, Ukrainian fencing was just Kharlan and sabre. Maybe epee sometimes. I don't remember them ever was strong in foil. There was a time when Russia, Romania and Poland were strong in foil at that time when Italy dominated but I don't remember Ukraine anymore.
Hungarian women with Aida Mahomed were too strong for many years.
No, our epee was good always, we have Shemyakina, who was Olympic Champion in 2012, Reizlin with bronze in 2020, medalists of Worlds like Kryvytska (who is our finisher today), Svichkar (who is our finisher in men's side) and Stankevych, European champion Kharkova, medals in other conpetitions from men's team epee who were one of the main contenders in Tokyo, but unfortunately failed to take a medal.
Ukraine twice in one day defeated Italy and France, like what the heck? 
ExpandWhere does this foil team train? The sabre team trained in Bologna to Paris.
Myroniuk trained in the USA (that's why she is European vice champion), others I assume trained in Ukraine
Ukraine defeated Hungary, Italy and France and first time in the history of our fencing is in FINAL 
WE ACTUALLY WON SOMETHING, OLYA WE LOVE YOU FROM BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS 
Kharlan put +14 effort vs Hungary and we are in the final against France
Fantastic fencing from Daria, she made Errigo think a lot, and at this point it's already amazing job. This is highest place by Ukrainian femail foil specialists, and she really improved her fencing in USA
Alina Poloziuk beat twice Alice Volpi today, I'm shocked 
Ukraine just won our first ever WC medal in women's team foil, it's insane
The average age of this team is 21.5 years, which means that they could be threat for next Olympic cycle, such a talented girls
ExpandFirst part of the qualification is over, now we'll have:
1) Zonal Qualification tournaments in April - this will bring the total to 34 athletes per individual event;
2) since France won't need to use any host quota place, 8 Universality Places decided by the Tripartite Commission. That's a lot of places, especially considering that the few decent fencers from eligible countries could be qualified on their own by then;
3) reallocation of unused Universality Places:
"if the Tripartite Commission is not able to allocate Universality Place(s), such unallocated Place(s) will be attributed by the FIE to the next highest-ranked eligible athlete in the Individual Senior Adjusted Official Ranking (AOR) as of 1 April 2024, across all weapon and all FIE Zones, but strictly respecting the following:
- The maximum number of athletes in each individual event (37) and- The NOC must not have any athlete already qualified in the corresponding individual event "
The following would be the first fencers in line for such reallocations - of course some of them will likely qualify first through their Zonal QT
| RANK | NAME | NOC | POINTS | EVENT |
| 8 | ILIEVA Yoana | BUL | 115 | w sabre |
| 13 | LLAVADOR Carlos | ESP | 98 | m foil |
| 17 | XIAO Ruien | CAN | 76,5 | w epee |
| 19 | BASHTA Anna | AZE | 75 | w sabre |
| 20 | YILDIRIM Enver | TUR | 78 | m sabre |
| 20 | ERBIL Nisanur | TUR | 71 | w sabre |
| 22 | NAVARRO Araceli | ESP | 70 | w sabre |
| 23 | BAYARD Alexis | SUI | 68 | m epee |
| 23 | TEODOSIU Iulian | ROU | 66 | m sabre |
| 25 | DI TELLA Isabel | ARG | 58 | w epee |
| 28 | FRAZAO Miguel | POR | 55,5 | m epee |
| 29 | PEREIRA Yulen | ESP | 55 | m epee |
| 29 | HRYCIUK Szymon | POL | 53 | m sabre |
How many places totally will be reallocated? Is it to be 1 or more places?
ExpandNot for the first time...also no German teams in 2016 (but then it was only 4 team competitions) and last medal was in 2012.
In fact, things could have looked much better without Leonie Ebert's injury and Colin Heathcock and Alexandra Ndolo's change of nation.
But Germany has really lost touch with the world leaders in recent years
I can understand what you feel because at the beginning German team was quite good in women's epee, but then both Ndolo and Germans really lost the level of fencing and it comes to what we see.
ExpandI cant believe what just happened.
made it to the final and secured a team spot in Paris 🥹🥹🥹🥹. I shed a lot of happy tears for them.
What a great way for Jiri Beran to probably finish his career - just phenomenal performance from your team, congrats. With both Japan and Czechia qualified Ukrainians will have for whom to root for in team epee. 
ExpandUkraine was a bit disappointed in men's epee. A few years ago this team was very strong. Fortunately, the girls in epee and saber did very well.
Well, yes. But what do we want to win if our best fencer refuses to fence to our team at the huge amount of competitions? Hopefully, he is not going to the qualifiers, because he did not deserve it at all.
@phelps can you calculate all of the Olympic rankings (women's and men's epee and men's sabre)? Thank you
ExpandLook, on one hand I do agree with you that Canada’s women’s epee team is weaker than (probably even a level down) Ukraine or Estonia and it’s probably better for the sport of fencing that a team of their caliber will be at the Olympics. On the other hand, how would them qualifying be undeserved? It’s not like Canada cheated or anything, and they also had to put up results to be 12th in the Olympic Ranking.
First of all, where is your leader Xiao Ruien? With her Canadian team would be much stronger and more competitive.
Secondly, be honest: did your girls really fight against USA knowing that the only result for them to be at the Olympics is to lose to USA? Absolutely not, they lost by a biggest margin in the R16 amongst all of the teams.
Ukraine was in exactly the same situation, because we need to lose to Poland to qualify them at the Olympics and lower the chances of USA. And guess what? We ain't playing dirty and won, moving onto semifinals with idea that only victory at this WC stage can be for us suitable (not knowing the result of Italy vs USA).
So this is thee difference and in case of both Estonia and Ukraine we would qualify by our own effort and not by the help of other, especially without losing to them on purpose.
Estonia is out and now it's a fight between Ukraine and USA, let's see
Llavador is out in first round, so I guess it's over for him. @phelpsam I correct?
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Flora Pasztor, Kata Kondricz, Dora Lupkovics, Aida Mohamed
Olivia Wohlgemuth, Freya Cenker
Malina Calugareanu, Emilia Corbu
Carolina Stutchbury
Alina Poloziuk
Maria Teresa Diaz
After R1 we have -8 fencers 
In second round will be Pasztor, Stutchbury and Poloziuk.
So tomorrow is a final competition for indivdual OR in foil, so let's take a look on a main competiton for quotas.
In women's section, as I mentioned earlier, is 11 fencers to take second European quota (the first is granted to Anna Sauer and congrats to her fans maybe she can succed at the OG and win some medal).
Flora Pasztor, Kata Kondricz, Dora Lupkovics, Aida Mohamed
Olivia Wohlgemuth, Freya Cenker
Malina Calugareanu, Emilia Corbu
Carolina Stutchbury
Alina Poloziuk
Maria Teresa Diaz
Some draws segments for them
Flora Pasztor - Budenko , Volpi 
Carolina Stutchbury - Petrova , Guo 
Malina Calugareanu - Harvey , Kondricz
Alina Poloziuk - Wohlgemuth , Walczyk-Klimaszyk 
Emilia Corbu - Chen 
, Catarzi 
Freya Cenker - Sauer 
, Blaze
Kata Kondicz - Cheung 
, Harvey/Calugareanu
Dora Lupkovics - Batini , Devore 
Aida Mohamed - Cristino , Scruggs
Maria Teresia Diaz - Walczyk-Klimaszyk , Poloziuk/Wohlgemuth
Olivia Wohlgemuth - Poloziuk , Walczyk-Klimaszyk
Based on this, after R1 we will see at least 1 fencer out, after R2 - at least 2 more, after R3 hunt for the quota can be over if Stutchbury can qualify there and her biggest rivals like Pasztor and Calugareanu are out. Obviously, I will pray for our Ukrainian girl Alina, who actually won a bronze at the Grand Prix, beating Lee Kiefer, but it didn't count towards olympic ranking unfortunately.
At the men's section it will be fight for all of two spots - Daniel Dosa , Carlos Llavador and Alexander Choupenitch will figure out who is gonna be at the final qual.tournament. The race is tight, so let's see also first two rounds for them
Daniel Dosa - Lechner , Spoljar 
Carlos Llavador - Rajski , Xu
Alexander Choupenitch - Cheng 
, Garozzo
Not a good draw for Choupenitch at all, not an easy start for Llavador and really easy draw for Dosa. Considering that, if Dosa/Llavador/Choupenitch can make it through first 2 rounds, they will receive 12 points. Looking on the 5th worst result for them, Dosa and Choupenitch will increasy their total by 8 points (4 points is the worst result for them), while Llavador increase by only 4 points. According to that, Dosa is probably safe, and Choupenitch need to lose to the same round as Llavador - in that case Czech will get the quota.
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