Alpine Skiing FIS World Cup 2024 - 2025

[copravolley 325]

  On 11/23/2024 at 1:41 PM, Gianlu33 said:

Obviously that was a Ceccarelli's fault. 

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Did she negotiate with the Italian federation until the end?

 

For me it is sad that we have lost the only great talent in this sport for many years. Since Bassino, we haven`t one in technical competitions in alpine skiing. Giorgia Collomb is the same age as Colturi and she has a problem to get single points in the World Cup. Basically, after end of carriers of Goggia and Brignone in 2026, our skiing will die. There will be only Bassino also over 30. No average Italian will waste half a day on Saturday to see Peterlini take 20th place and Rosetti and della Mea don`t finish 5 out of 6 slaloms in one season.

Edited November 23, 2024 by copravolley

[hckošice 15,131]

Stage 3 in Gurgl (AUT)

 

Women´s Slalom:

 

1. Mikaela Shiffrin    1:40.22

2. Lara Colturi    1:40.77

3. Camille Rast    1:40.79

 

Full Final Results HERE

[Monzanator 4,611]

Well, it was to be expected that Colturi was going to have a breakout result like that sooner or later and the state of Italian alpine skiing will create some very long faces. But hey, if Italy  let their "best" prospect walk because of money then it's their fault. If there was some personal feud between Ceccarelli & federation it's even worse.

[copravolley 325]

I remember that Lara Gut's family also had a conflict with the Swiss federation at the beginning of her career around 2008/2009 but it was resolved. I remember that the family also wanted to have a greater influence on their daughter's career. It was probably similar here. If there was a will from both sides, an agreement should have been reached. Especially since Colturi has zero ties with Albania. Sinner could have played for Austria sooner, as a person from South Tyrol.

[copravolley 325]

  On 11/23/2024 at 3:02 PM, Monzanator said:

Well, it was to be expected that Colturi was going to have a breakout result like that sooner or later and the state of Italian alpine skiing will create some very long faces. But hey, if Italy  let their "best" prospect walk because of money then it's their fault. If there was some personal feud between Ceccarelli & federation it's even worse.

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You know, but we still don't know what that was about. Ceccarelli has a difficult character but still changing colors to a country with which you have absolute no connetions? What would you say if Iga Swiatek fell out with the Polish tennis federation and started playing for Luxembourg or Andorra? Certainly not everyone would decide to take such a step, even if they had to give in a little in talks with the federation. 

 

Another thing is that the Italian training system simply doesn`t work. As you can see, there are talents but we don`t know how to train them. Since the golden generation born in 1990-1995 (Brignone, Bassino, Goggia) we haven`t trained anyone who would stand on the podium in giant slalom or slalom in World Cup. So something is wrong. At the beginning of the 21st century we had a large group of good athletes in giant slalom (maybe not at Brignone's level): Karbon, Moelgg, Putzer, Gius, etc., who were able to win World Cups, win World Championship medals, etc. Now we have no one. In women's giant slalom for example: if Brignone and Bassino are gone, even getting to the first 20 in World Cup will be a problem for us.

Edited November 23, 2024 by copravolley

[rafalgorka 1,634]

Marco Girardelli went to Luxembourg one day and he had a great career. I doubt he did regret that move.

[copravolley 325]

  On 11/23/2024 at 3:16 PM, rafalgorka said:

Marco Girardelli went to Luxembourg one day and he had a great career. I doubt he did regret that move.

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It's just that Austria had a lot of skiers in that time and we don't have any others among the young ones now.

Edited November 23, 2024 by copravolley

[rafalgorka 1,634]

  On 11/23/2024 at 3:22 PM, copravolley said:

It's just that Austria had a lot of ski drivers, and we don't have any others among the young ones now.

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We must ask our Austrian users if they cheered for Girardelii. But do we have any Austrian users LOL?

Edited November 23, 2024 by rafalgorka

[rafalgorka 1,634]

Or is Girardelli respected in Austria these days...

[Monzanator 4,611]

  On 11/23/2024 at 3:10 PM, copravolley said:

You know, but we still don't know what that was about. Ceccarelli has a difficult character but still changing colors to a country with which you have absolute no connetions? What would you say if Iga Swiatek fell out with the Polish tennis federation and started playing for Luxembourg or Andorra? Certainly not everyone would decide to take such a step, even if they had to give in a little in talks with the federation. 

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Well, we lived through Caroline Wozniacki representing Denmark and there was some talk if she could switch to Poland early on but she said no since she lived her entire life in Denmark anyway. But she was very popular here. On the other side Angelique Kerber who also has Polish ancestry actually lived in Poland on her grandfather's estate (which was a tennis academy). In the last few years except Eugenia Bujak (cycling) switching to Slovenia due to a conflict with the federation we don't really have such cases. I can understand many Italians have their opinion on Colturi & her mother alas it's boosted by the lack of other top end prospects in your skiing now (and some other winter sports). I'm surprised Italian journalists haven't figured out what's behind Colturi's switch already because it has to be money or "personal differences" either way.