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:ISR 2023 World Aquatics Junior Swimming Championships - Netanya (ISR) :ISR

September 4th - September 9th 2023

 

Meet Results

 

 

The following new OQTs were achieved

 

Men's 400m Freestyle

:ITA Alessandro Ragaini

 

Men's 800m Freestyle

:TUR Kuzey Tuncelli

:CHN Zhang Zhanshuo

 

Men's 100m Backstroke

:CZE Miroslav Knedla

:UKR Oleksandr Zheltiakov

 

Men's 200m Individual Medley

:USA Maximus Williamson

 

Men's 400m Individual Medley

:CHN Zhang Zhanshuo

 

Women's 50m Freestyle

:AUS Olivia Wunsch

 

Women's 400m Freestyle

:AUS Jamie Perkins

 

Women's 100m Backstroke

:AUS Iona Anderson

:AUS Jaclyn Barclay

:USA Erika Pelaez

 

Women's 100m Breaststroke

:CAN Alexanne Lepage

 

Women's 400m Individual Medley

:CAN Julie Brousseau

:CAN Ella Jansen

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:GBR released their final selection policy for Paris earlier this month. In line with the approach used for both Rio and Tokyo, the squad will be capped at a maximum of 30 athletes. 

 

Key Points:

  • Selections will primarily be based on results from 2024 British Swimming Championships which are taking place in London Aquatics Centre in early April.
  • In order to guarantee selection, the champion in each individual event is required to achieve the nomination time in the final.
  • The first four finishers in the relevant events will be selected if their collective time is within the required nomination standard for the relay.
  • GB Swimming Performance Director has complete discretion to add athletes to the squad. 
  • If not already selected for inclusion in a relay, the silver medalist in each individual event will be considered for selection - if there are places available - where they have achieved the relevant nomination time in the final of their event. 

 

Most of the above is pretty uncontroversial, although why they would look to put an arbitrary cap on the size of the squad is beyond me. Where I think GB Swimming have gone mad is in the creation of their own qualifying standards:

 

 

Female   Male
OQT BQT Event OQT BQT
24.70 24.65 50 Freestyle 21.96 21.88
53.61 53.55 100 Freestyle 48.34 48.06
1:57.26 1:56.85 200 Freestyle 1:46.26 1:45.96
4:07.90 4:04.98 400 Freestyle 3:46.78 3:45.43
8:26.71 8:25.84 800 Freestyle 7:51.65 7:47.80
16:09.09 16:01.95 1500 Freestyle 15:00.99 14:54.29
59.99 59.89 100 Backstroke 53.74 53.68
2:10.39 2:08.91 200 Backstroke 1:57.50 1:57.28
1:06.79 1:06.31 100 Breaststroke 59.49 59.45
2:23.91 2:23.04 200 Breaststroke 2:09.68 2:08.95
57.92 57.17 100 Butterfly 51.67 51.56
2:08.43 2:07.96 200 Butterfly 1:55.78 1:54.97
2:11.47 2:10.62 200 Individual Medley 1:57.94 1:57.49

4:38.53

4:37.84 400 Individual Medley 4:12.50 4:11.90

 

 

OQT = Olympic Qualifying Time 

BQT = British Qualifying Time

 

There are some events where GB are strong - the men's 200 Freestyle - where I can understand the rationale for having more stringent qualifying standards, but there are plenty of events where these standards will simply ensure that there is no British representation in the event. 

 

As an example, GB didn't qualify anyone for the women's 1500m Freestyle event for Tokyo. Our national champion in 2023 was Amelie Blocksidge who is, by all accounts, GB's great hope for the longer distance freestyle events. At 14 years old, she set a PB time of 16:19.67 to take the title. Whilst that is not going to win her a medal at international level, it is within 5 seconds of the official Olympic Consideration Time and it is not difficult to believe that she would be able to bring her time down next year to be within the OCT - indeed she could even bring her time under the OQT - but in order to qualify under GB standards, she would have to find 18 seconds which is much less likely. 

 

Under these British standards, we would lose out current qualifiers in the women's 400 freestyle, 100 butterfly and in the men's 800 freestyle. In addition, we would be reduced to 1 participant in the men's 50 freestyle. 

 

Given British Swimming endured the embarrassment of having to change their World Championship selection policy halfway through the trials, you would have thought that they would have adopted a more cautious approach but instead, they seem to have doubled down. 

 

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7 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said:

:GBR released their final selection policy for Paris earlier this month. In line with the approach used for both Rio and Tokyo, the squad will be capped at a maximum of 30 athletes. 

 

Key Points:

  • Selections will primarily be based on results from 2024 British Swimming Championships which are taking place in London Aquatics Centre in early April.
  • In order to guarantee selection, the champion in each individual event is required to achieve the nomination time in the final.
  • The first four finishers in the relevant events will be selected if their collective time is within the required nomination standard for the relay.
  • GB Swimming Performance Director has complete discretion to add athletes to the squad. 
  • If not already selected for inclusion in a relay, the silver medalist in each individual event will be considered for selection - if there are places available - where they have achieved the relevant nomination time in the final of their event. 

 

Most of the above is pretty uncontroversial, although why they would look to put an arbitrary cap on the size of the squad is beyond me. Where I think GB Swimming have gone mad is in the creation of their own qualifying standards*:

 

 

Female   Male
OQT BQT Event OQT BQT
24.70 24.65 50 Freestyle 21.96 21.88
53.61 53.55 100 Freestyle 48.34 48.06
1:57.26 1:56.85 200 Freestyle 1:46.26 1:45.96
4:07.90 4:04.98 400 Freestyle 3:46.78 3:45.43
8:26.71 8:25.84 800 Freestyle 7:51.65 7:47.80
16:09.09 16:01.95 1500 Freestyle 15:00.99 14:54.29
59.99 59.89 100 Backstroke 53.74 53.68
2:10.39 2:08.91 200 Backstroke 1:57.50 1:57.28
1:06.79 1:06.31 100 Breaststroke 59.49 59.45
2:23.91 2:23.04 200 Breaststroke 2:09.68 2:08.95
57.92 57.17 100 Butterfly 51.67 51.56
2:08.43 2:07.96 200 Butterfly 1:55.78 1:54.97
2:11.47 2:10.62 200 Individual Medley 1:57.94 1:57.49

4:38.53

4:37.84 400 Individual Medley 4:12.50 4:11.90

 

 

OQT = Olympic Qualifying Time 

BQT = British Qualifying Time

 

There are some events where GB are strong - the men's 200 Freestyle - where I can understand the rationale for having more stringent qualifying standards, but there are plenty of events where these standards will simply ensure that there is no British representation in the event. 

 

As an example, GB didn't qualify anyone for the women's 1500m Freestyle event for Tokyo. Our national champion in 2023 was Amelie Blocksidge who is, by all accounts, GB's great hope for the longer distance freestyle events. At 14 years old, she set a PB time of 16:19.67 to take the title. Whilst that is not going to win her a medal at international level, it is within 5 seconds of the official Olympic Consideration Time and it is not difficult to believe that she would be able to bring her time down next year to be within the OCT - indeed she could even bring her time under the OQT - but in order to qualify under GB standards, she would have to find 18 seconds which is much less likely. 

 

Under these British standards, we would lose out current qualifiers in the women's 400 freestyle, 100 butterfly and in the men's 800 freestyle. In addition, we would be reduced to 1 participant in the men's 50 freestyle. 

 

Given British Swimming endured the embarrassment of having to change their World Championship selection policy halfway through the trials, you would have thought that they would have adopted a more cautious approach but instead, they seem to have doubled down. 

 

* it's the exact time of the last qualified swimmer to the 2023 world champs final

basically it's the same thing that Italy has done for years (the only difference is that we normally use the last qualifying time to the semis, the final wouldn't make sense for us)

they just want all the swimmers to show they're capable of clockings that would have a real chance to make the final

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:CHN Swimming at the 19th Asian Games - Hangzhou (CHN) :CHN

September 24th - September 29th 2023

 

Meet Results

 

 

The following new OQTs were achieved

 

Men's 50m Freestyle

:KOR Ji Yuchan

:CHN Pan Zhanle

 

Men's 100m Freestyle

:CHN Wang Haoyu

 

Men's 200m Freestyle

:JPN Hidenari Mano

:CHN Wang Shun

 

Men's 800m Freestyle

:CHN Fei Liwei

:VIE Nguyen Huy Hoang

 

Men's 100m Backstroke

:KOR Lee Juho

 

Men's 200m Backstroke

:KOR Lee Juho

:CHN Xu Jiayu

 

Men's 100m Breaststroke

:KOR Choi Dongyeol

 

Men's 100m Butterfly

:CHN Wang Changhao

 

Men's 200m Individual Medley

:CHN Qin Haiyang

:CHN Wang Shun

 

Women's 100m Freestyle

:CHN Yang Junxuan

 

Women's 400m Freestyle

:CHN Ma Yonghui

 

Women's 1500m Freestyle

:CHN Gao Weizhong

 

Women's 200m Backstroke

:KOR Lee Eunji

 

Women's 200m Breaststroke

:CHN Ye Shiwen

 

Women's 200m Butterfly

:CHN Yu Liyan

:CHN Zhang Yufei

 

Women's 200m Individual Medley

:KOR Kim Seoyeong

 

Women's 400m Individual Medley

:CHN Yu Yiting

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6 hours ago, phelps said:

* it's the exact time of the last qualified swimmer to the 2023 world champs final

basically it's the same thing that Italy has done for years (the only difference is that we normally use the last qualifying time to the semis, the final wouldn't make sense for us)

they just want all the swimmers to show they're capable of clockings that would have a real chance to make the final

For most of the events, it doesn't make sense for GB either and given this approach didn't work at the trials for Worlds this year, I would have expected them to lower their expectations a little. 

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5 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said:

For most of the events, it doesn't make sense for GB either and given this approach didn't work at the trials for Worlds this year, I would have expected them to lower their expectations a little. 

What it DOES do is give maximum flexibility for selectors in terms of the relays

 

At this stage, a lot depends on Peaty, but if he comes back even 90-95% of the athlete he was prior to 2022, then the following relays are actual medal hopes :

 

Mens 4 x 100 freestyle

Men's 4 x 100 medley

Men's 4 x 200 freestyle

Mixed 4 x 100 medley

Women's 4 x 200 freestyle (at a push if all the planets align)

 

Of course, they still have to qualify most of these relays, of which the 4 x 100 free is the sticky one - they HAVE to go and at least register a heat time in the 2024 Worlds for that one - they may well already have the times in the others.

 

There are a handful of juniors/near juniors who they'd bring if they had the least cop on, Blocksidge the most obvious, but I'd argue Leah Schlossen, Oscar Bilbao and Phoebe Cooper too.

 

women's side remains weak, but most of the new shoots at this moment seem to be on that side, perhaps for the first time in a wee while...

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:GER 2023 World Aquatics Swimming World Cup - Berlin (GER) :GER

October 6th - October 8th 2023

 

Meet Results

 

 

The following new OQTs were achieved

 

Men's 100m Freestyle

:ITA Thomas Ceccon

 

Men's 200m Freestyle

:AUS Maximillian Giuliani

 

Men's 200m Backstroke

:ITA Thomas Ceccon

 

Men's 100m Breaststroke

:NED Caspar Corbeau

 

Men's 100m Butterfly

:USA Michael Andrew

:AUS Ben Armbruster

 

Women's 50m Freestyle

:AUS Bronte Campbell

:USA Torri Huske

 

Women's 200m Breaststroke

:AUS Jenna Strauch

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:GRE 2023 World Aquatics Swimming World Cup - Athens (GRE) :GRE

October 13th - October 15th 2023

 

Meet Results

 

 

The following new OQTs were achieved

 

Men's 200m Butterfly

:RSA Matt Sates

 

Women's 100m Freestyle

:AUS Bronte Campbell

 

Women's 100m Butterfly

:SWE Sarah Sjöström

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:TUR 2023 Turkish Turkcell Open National Team Selection Meet - Edirne (TUR) :TUR

April 27th - April 29th 2023

 

Meet Results

 

 

The following new OQTs were achieved

 

Men's 100m Breaststroke

:TUR Berkay Ogretir

 

*Note: This was a late addition to the qualification events. Kuzey Tuncelli also achieved the OQT for the first time at this event.

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