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Based on the list of sports that you mentioned, fencing and rugby sevens appears to have a calendar years that straddles between two different years. For fencing, if you got to the results and competition portion of the FIE website, on the right hand side where it says seasons, it would show seasons in two straddling years: https://fie.org/competitions For rugby sevens, at least for the world sevens series, a season of the competition is competed in two straddling years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SVNS Besides those examples that you mentioned, most of the summer Olympic sports is competed in seasons of one year instead of two different years. I think the reason for that is summer sports have a longer duration of activity in comparison to winter sports due to climate related reasons. For summer sports, those competitions can be pratically held in any climate environment, lending itself for competitions to be able to be held for the majority of one calendar year. Meanwhile, winter sports are usually able to be held in only winter climates with the exception of some of the indoor sports. Hence, competition are usually from late fall/early winter towards the end of the winter season. Thus, the need of a season that straddles through two different years.

I can see Indonesia's athletics and swimming teams doing slightly better than in 2023 since their junior teams are improving and they have facilities from the 2018 Asian Games that are conducive to some quality training. However, it will take time from them to challenge the top 2 spots in the medal tally of those respective sports, perhaps by 2029. I think archery and tennis will be some of the Indonesia's best performing Olympic sports in this year's Sea Games. I think their men's football and volleyball teams has a 50-50 chance to defend their gold medals. In terms of badminton, I don't think the Thai players are too ethusiastic in competing in the Sea Games, especially the ones who are qualified to compete in the world tour finals. They know that the Thai sports authorities and badminton association are calling them up so they can fulfill their gold medal targets and KPI goals so the governing body can get more government funding. I can tell you based on social media updates that Kunlavut Vitidsarn is not going to compete in the individual event as he stated as such to Thai media as of yesterday. He stated that he will only compete in the team event as he is recovering from his wisdom tooth surgery weeks ago and is only 80 percent fit at the moment and wants to preserve his health for the world tour finals. I am happy about that and I hope that the other Thais such as Pornpawee, Dechapol, Supissara and Ratchanok will follow suit and not compete in the individual events because the Sea Games is really a venue for the youngsters and the more accomplished players should focus on the world tour finals.

As you said, the Indonesian youth climbers are still good enough to win the speed events. The quote from the Indonesian sport climbing federations makes me see that there are more political machinations behind the scenes, especially from the host country, more than I realized in terms of coercing others into who they can or can't send to the competition. I don't like it, but I guess is a part of life especially in the region that is known for underhanded/indirect dealings in terms of governance.

Any predictions on how well Indonesia will do in the sea games, especially in Olympic events?

Some Thai made a joke online by saying that the name of the soundtrack music for this year's Sea Games, which is titled "1 Percent", actually refers to the amount of preaparation and readiness that the Thai organization has in hosting the Sea Games. Many Thais know that they like to prepare things in the last minute. It's bascially a cultural thing. All that Thailand has is their claim to be the host that cheats the least and actually hosts the most Olympic sports events among the Sea game shost countries. And if they're willing to list to online voices from foreign sources, they are going to have to accept that such belief is not true anymore. I think the challenge for most Thais is to accept that their country is actually not that different from others in terms of earnestness in hosting sports events and that they have taken short cuts such as cutting a number of olympic sports events from this year's competition. It doesn't help that the Thai media does not like to report negative stuff about Thai governing sports bodies. For instance, Thai media has omitted the true reason why Carlos Yulo has withdrawn from this year's competition. The Thai media simply states that he chose to skip these games.

As I have stated earlier I would write up my SEA Games predictions for the Olympic sport events. Here is my detalied predictions with the name of the country winning in each of the 262 Olympic events hosted in LA 2028 and 5 weighlifting events hosted in Paris 2024 Total: Thailand 90, Singapore 50, Vietnam 47, Indonesia 33, Philippines 24, Malaysia 20, Cambodia 2 Aquatics-Artistic Swimming (2): Singapore 1, Thailand 1 W: Duet: Singapore; MX: Team: Thailand Aquatics-Diving (3): Malaysia 2, Thailand 1 Men: 3 m Springboard: Thailand, Synchronized 3 m: Malaysia Women: Synchronized 10 m: Malaysia Aquatics-Swimming (40): Singapore 24, Vietnam 6, Philippines 4, Thailand 3, Malaysia 2, Indonesia 1 Men: 50 m Freestyle: Singapore, 100 m Freestyle: Singapore, 200 m Freestyle: Malaysia, 400 m Freestyle: Malaysia, 1,500 m Freestyle: Vietnam, 50 m Backstroke: Singapore, 100 m Backstroke: Singapore, 200 m Backstroke: Singapore, 50 m Breaststroke: Indonesia, 100 m Breaststroke: Vietnam, 200 m Breaststroke: Vietnam, 50 m Butterfly: Singapore, 100 m Butterfly: Singapore, 200 m Butterfly: Thailand, 200 m Individual Medley: Vietnam, 400 m Individual Medley: Vietnam, 4 x 100 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 200 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 100 m Medley Relay: Singapore, 10 km Open Water: Vietnam Women: 50 m Freestyle: Singapore, 100 m Freestyle: Philippines, 200 m Freestyle: Singapore, 400 m Freestyle: Singapore, 800 m Freestyle: Singapore, 50 m Backstroke: Philippines, 100 m Backstroke: Philippines, 200 m Backstroke: Philippines, 50 m Breaststroke: Singapore, 100 m Breaststroke: Singapore, 200 m Breaststroke: Singapore, 50 m Butterfly: Singapore, 100 m Butterfly: Singapore, 200 m Butterfly: Thailand, 200 m Individual Medley: Singapore, 400 m Individual Medley: Thailand, 4 x 100 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 200 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 100 m Medley Relay: Singapore, 10 km Open Water: Singapore Aquatics-Water Polo (2): Singapore 1, Thailand 1 Men’s Team: Singapore; Women’s Team: Thailand Archery (6): Indonesia 4, Vietnam 1 Men: Olympic Recurve Individual: Indonesia, Olympic Recurve Team: Indonesia Women: Olympic Recurve Individual: Indonesia, Olympic Recurve Team: Indonesia Mixed: Olympic Recurve Team: Vietnam, Olympic Compound Team: Indonesia Athletics (47): Thailand 15, Vietnam 15, Indonesia 7, Philippines 4, Singapore 4, Malaysia 2 Men: 100 m: Thailand, 200 m: Thailand, 400 m: Vietnam, 800 m: Malaysia, 1,500 m: Thailand, 5,000 m: Thailand, 10,000 m: Thailand, 3,000 m Steeplechase: Vietnam, 110 m Hurdles: Singapore, 400 m Hurdles: Singapore, 4 x 100 m Relay: Thailand, 4 x 400 m Relay: Vietnam, Marathon: Indonesia, 20 km Walk: Indonesia, High Jump: Thailand, Pole Vault: Philippines, Long Jump: Vietnam, Triple Jump: Thailand, Shot Put: Philippines, Discus Throw: Malaysia, Hammer Throw: Thailand, Javelin Throw: Indonesia, Decathlon: Thailand Women: 100 m: Singapore, 200 m: Singapore, 400 m: Vietnam, 800 m: Vietnam, 1,500 m: Vietnam, 5,000 m: Vietnam, 10,000 m: Indonesia, 3,000 m Steeplechase: Vietnam, 100 m Hurdles: Indonesia, 400 m Hurdles: Philippines, 4 x 100 m Relay: Thailand, 4 x 400 m Relay: Vietnam, Marathon: Indonesia, 20 km Walk: Vietnam, High Jump: Vietnam, Pole Vault: Indonesia, Long Jump: Vietnam, Triple Jump: Vietnam, Shot Put: Thailand, Discus Throw: Thailand, Hammer Throw: Thailand, Javelin Throw: Thailand, Heptathlon: Philippines MX: 4 x 400 m Relay: Vietnam Badminton (5): Malaysia 2, Thailand 2, Indonesia 1 Men’s Singles: Thailand, Women’s Singles: Indonesia, Men’s Doubles: Malaysia, Women’s Doubles: Malaysia, Mixed Doubles: Thailand Basketball (2): Philippines 2 Men’s Team: Philippines, Women’s Team: Philippines Basketball 3x3 (2): Philippines 1, Thailand 1 Men’s 3x3 Team: Philippines, Women’s 3x3 Team: Thailand Boxing (11): Thailand 7, Philippines 4 Men: -57 kg (-55 kg): Philippines, -60 kg: Thailand, -63.5 kg (-65 kg): Thailand, -69 kg (-70 kg): Thailand, -80 kg: Philippines Women: -50 kg (-51 kg): Thailand, -54 kg: Thailand, -57 kg: Thailand, -60 kg: Philippines, -66 kg (-65 kg): Thailand, -70 kg: Philippines Canoeing (5): Thailand 4, Vietnam 1 Men: Slalom: C1: Thailand, K1: Thailand Women: Sprint: C2 500 m: Vietnam; Slalom: C1: Thailand, K1: Thailand Cycling (8): Thailand 5, Malaysia 3 Men: Road Race: Thailand, Time Trial: Thailand, Team Sprint: Malaysia, Team Pursuit: Malaysia, Keirin: Malaysia, BMX: Thailand Women: Road Race: Thailand, Time Trial: Thailand Equestrian (6): Thailand 5, Philippines 1 Mixed: Dressage Individual: Philippines, Dressage Team: Thailand, Eventing Individual: Thailand, Eventing Team: Thailand, Show Jumping Individual: Thailand, Show Jumping Team: Thailand Fencing (12): Singapore 9, Philippines 1, Thailand 1, Cambodia 1 Men: Eppe Individual: Singapore, Foil Individual: Philippines, Sabre Individual: Thailand, Eppe Team: Singapore, Foil Team: Singapore, Sabre Team: Singapore; Women: Eppe Individual: Singapore, Foil Individual: Cambodia, Sabre Individual: Singapore, Eppe Team: Singapore, Foil Team: Singapore, Sabre Team: Singapore Field Hockey (2): Malaysia 2 Men’s Team: Malaysia, Women’s Team: Malaysia Football (2): Thailand 1, Vietnam 1 Men’s Team: Thailand, Women’s Team: Vietnam Golf (2): Thailand 2 Men’s Individual: Thailand, Women’s Individual: Thailand Gymnastics (12): Vietnam 4, Singapore 2, Thailand 2, Malaysia 2, Philippines 1, Indonesia 1 Men: Floor Exercise: Thailand, Pommel Horse: Vietnam, Rings: Vietnam, Vault: Philippines, Parallel Bars: Vietnam, Horizontal Bar: Indonesia Women: Floor Exercise: Thailand, Vault: Vietnam, Uneven Bars: Malaysia, Balance Beam: Singapore, Rhythmic All-Around: Singapore, Rhythmic Group: Malaysia; Handball (2): Thailand 1, Vietnam 1 Men’s Team: Thailand; Women’s Team: Vietnam Judo (9): Thailand 6, Vietnam 2, Philippines 1 Men: -73 kg: Thailand, -81 kg: Thailand, -90 kg: Vietnam, -100 kg: Philippines Women: -57 kg: Vietnam, -70 kg: Thailand, -78 kg: Thailand, +78 kg: Thailand Mixed: Team: Thailand Rowing (7): Vietnam 3, Thailand 2, Indonesia 2 Men: Single Sculls: Indonesia, Double Sculls: Indonesia, Coastal Single Sculls: Thailand Women: Double Sculls: Vietnam, Quadruple Sculls: Vietnam, Fours: Vietnam, Coastal Single Sculls: Thailand Rugby (2): Thailand 2 Men’s Sevens: Thailand, Women’s Sevens: Thailand Sailing (7): Thailand 5, Singapore 2 Men: iqFoil: Thailand, ICLA 7: Singapore, Kiteboarding: Singapore Women: iqFoil: Thailand, ICLA 6: Thailand, Kiteboarding: Thailand Mixed: 470: Thailand Shooting (13): Thailand 4, Vietnam 3, Singapore 3, Malaysia 2, Indonesia 1 Men: Rifle 3x 40: Thailand, Air Pistol: Malaysia, 25 m Rapid Fire Pistol: Vietnam, Trap: Singapore, Skeet: Malaysia Women: Air Rifle: Thailand, Rifle 3x 40: Singapore, Air Pistol: Vietnam, 25 m Pistol: Vietnam, Trap: Thailand, Skeet: Thailand Mixed: Air Rifle Team: Singapore, Air Pistol Team: Indonesia Skateboarding (4): Indonesia 2, Thailand 1, Philippines 1 Men: Street: Indonesia, Park: Philippines Women: Street: Thailand, Park: Indonesia Sport Climbing (6): Indonesia 3, Thailand 2, Singapore 1 Men: Bouldering: Thailand, Lead: Thailand, Speed: Indonesia Women: Bouldering: Singapore, Lead: Indonesia, Speed: Indonesia Table Tennis (5): Singapore 3, Thailand 2 Men’s Singles: Singapore, Women’s Singles: Thailand, Men’s Doubles: Singapore, Women’s Doubles: Thailand, Mixed Doubles: Singapore Taekwondo (8): Thailand 5, Vietnam 3 Men: -58 kg: Thailand, -68 kg: Thailand, -80 kg: Thailand, -87 kg (+80 kg): Thailand Women: -49 kg: Thailand, -57 kg: Vietnam, -67 kg: Vietnam, -73 kg (+67 kg): Vietnam Tennis (5): Indonesia 3, Thailand 2 Men’s Singles: Thailand, Women’s Singles: Indonesia, Men’s Doubles: Thailand, Women’s Doubles: Indonesia, Mixed Doubles: Indonesia Triathlon (3): Indonesia 3 Men’s Individual: Indonesia, Women’s Individual: Indonesia, Mixed Relay Team: Indonesia Volleyball (2): Indonesia 1, Thailand 1 Men’s Team: Indonesia, Women’s Team: Thailand Beach Volleyball (2): Indonesia 1, Thailand 1 Men’s Beach: Indonesia, Women’s Beach: Thailand Weightlifting (5): Thailand 4, Philippines 1 Men: -61 kg: Thailand, -73 kg: Thailand Women: -49 kg: Thailand, -59 kg: Thailand, -71 kg: Philippines Wrestling (12): Vietnam 7, Indonesia 3, Philippines 1, Cambodia 1 Men's Freestyle: -57 kg: Philippines, -65 kg: Vietnam, -74 kg: Vietnam, -86 kg: Cambodia Men's Greco-Roman: -60 kg: Vietnam, -67 kg: Indonesia, -77 kg: Indonesia, -87 kg: Indonesia Women's Freestyle: -50 kg: Vietnam, -53 kg: Vietnam, -57 kg: Vietnam, -62 kg: Vietnam Baseball & Softball (2): Philippines 2 Men’s Baseball: Philippines, Women’s Softball: Philippines Cricket (2): Malaysia 1, Thailand 1 Men’s T20: Malaysia, Women’s T20: Thailand Squash (2): Malaysia 2 Men’s Singles: Malaysia, Women’s Singles: Malaysia Most of my predictions were made in combination of factors of performances in international competitions in 2025 as well as in the 2024 Olympics and the lastest SEA Games. Some sports that I don't have enough information to go by such as Judo or Wrestling has forced to make those predictions with a less than 50 percent certainty. About 2-3 months ago, I would have guess that Thailand's numbers would be nearer to 80 rather than 90 as their quality in major Olympic Sports (i.e. Athletics, Swimming, Shooting, Gymnastics) have declined over the past decade or so. According to my predictions, despite such struggles, Thailand's overall quality in other Olympic Sports is enough to paper through the cracks in the development of its Olympic sports program. It would be an embarassment to myself at least if Thailand is not able to win the gold medal count in either of the four major Olympic sports. Singapore would finish second due to its enormous strength in swmming as well as improving in athletics, gymnastics and shooting. I wouldn't expect Vietnam to win only 47 Olympic events as it has dominated the Olympic events count for the past three editions, but their lack of adequate funding may explain the reason of their potential underperformance in these predictions. Malaysia, Indonesia and Philippines all have lower numbers of expected Olympic events won in this year's edition as they are impacted by the number of Olympic events that was cut from the SEA Games, especially in gymnastics, cycling, canoeing and rowing. If I have the time in the enxt week or so before the games begins, I will preview some of the key Olympic Sports hosted at Thailand with some highlights of interesting events and likely rising stars. And of course, at the end of the games, we will look back at how accurate my predictions are.

I have been gone for more than a month as I have been busy with work and studies. I have just finished an exam that has implications towards my efforts in attaining a work certification. Now, I have the time to write more about my thoughts about this year's SEA Games. As I have stated in my previous posts, I will write my predictions of the gold medal winners in the Olympic events in the SEA Games in the upcoming days. I don't want to predict the winners for the non-Olympic events because I don't have the desire to do research and make a prediction to who is going to win some event in Pencak Silat or Thai boxing. However, I want to give a historical context in the past 3-4 decades of the SEA Games medal tally in Olympic events in order to give some context to the performance trends of notable countries. Based on wikipedia research and sources, I was able to make a gold medal tally of Olympic events in the SEA Games from around 1985 until 2023. My artibrary definition of what counts as an Olympic event in each of the past SEA Games is that in what Olympic year is that particular SEA Games edition is preceding for. For instance, in an 1988 Olympic cycle, the preceding SEA Games editions were 1985 and 1987. Therefore, the olympic events for the 1985 and 1987 SEA Games will be ones that are listed in the 1988 Summer Olympics. So, here's the list of gold medal tallys in Olympic events in the past SEA Games editions since 1985: 1985-Thailand: Total (154 out of 237 Olympic events in 1988 hosted): Thailand 54, Indonesia 33, Philippines 27, Malaysia 20, Singapore 11, Burma 8, Not accounted 2 1987-Indonesia: Total (189/237): Indonesia 90, Philippines 31, Thailand 30, Malaysia 23, Singapore 9, Burma 6, Not accounted 1 1989-Malaysia: Total (182/257): Indonesia 65, Thailand 38, Malaysia 36, Philippines 18, Singapore 15, Myanmar 8, Brunei 1 1991-Philippines: Total (178/257): Indonesia 60, Thailand 47, Philippines 43, Malaysia 17, Myanmar 7, Singapore 3, Vietnam 2 1993-Singapore: Total (175/271): Indonesia 57, Thailand 40, Philippines 32, Malaysia 20, Singapore 18, Myanmar 6, Vietnam 2, Not accounted 1 1995-Thailand: Total (195/271): Thailand 96, Indonesia 44, Philippines 24, Malaysia 14, Singapore 14, Vietnam 4, Myanmar 1 1997-Indonesia: Total (249/291): Indonesia 108, Thailand 57, Malaysia 34, Philippines 27, Vietnam 13, Singapore 13 1999-Brunei: Total (122/300): Thailand 47, Malaysia 29, Indonesia 21, Singapore 13, Philippines 7, Vietnam 4, Laos 1 2001-Malaysia: Total (229/302): Thailand 80, Malaysia 58, Indonesia 41, Singapore 15, Philippines 13, Vietnam 11, Myanmar 9 2003-Vietnam: Total (234/301): Thailand 65, Vietnam 55, Indonesia 33, Malaysia 32, Philippines 27, Singapore 17, Myanmar 7 2005-Philippines: Total (233/302): Thailand 53, Philippines 44, Vietnam 34, Malaysia 33, Indonesia 31, Singapore 29, Myanmar 10 2007-Thailand: Total (254/302): Thailand 85, Malaysia 37, Vietnam 36, Indonesia 35, Singapore 30, Philippines 27, Myanmar 6 2009-Laos: Total (181/302): Thailand 44, Vietnam 27, Malaysia 26, Indonesia 26, Singapore 24, Philippines 21, Laos 7, Myanmar 5 2011-Indonesia: Total (254/302): Thailand 71, Indonesia 58, Vietnam 52, Malaysia 31, Singapore 27, Philippines 14, Myanmar 2, Laos 1 2013-Myanmar: Total (205/306): Thailand 58, Vietnam 31, Indonesia 29, Singapore 27, Malaysia 26, Philippines 18, Myanmar 12, Laos 4, Cambodia 3 2015-Singapore: Total (215/306): Vietnam 49, Thailand 45, Singapore 43, Malaysia 31, Indonesia 26, Philippines 19, Myanmar 3 2017-Malaysia: Total (207/340): Malaysia 54, Vietnam 45, Thailand 40, Singapore 32, Indonesia 21, Philippines 15, Myanmar 1, Cambodia 1 2019-Philippines: Total (227/339): Vietnam 53, Philippines 46, Thailand 43, Indonesia 37, Singapore 27, Malaysia 21, Cambodia 1 2022-Vietnam: Total (234/329): Vietnam 89, Thailand 42, Indonesia 31, Singapore 28, Philippines 25, Malaysia 21, Cambodia 1 2023-Cambodia: Total (196/329): Vietnam 48, Thailand 37, Singapore 37, Indonesia 27, Philippines 20, Malaysia 16, Cambodia 10, Myanmar 1 Note: The name of the host country of each listed edition is next to the year of that particular edition. Here is my observation and analysis of these numbers: Observations: The host country usuallly has a boost in their gold medal numbers in comparison of their usual performance outside of their home country. Indonesia dominated the Olympic events tally during the 1980's and early 1990's while only losing to Thailand when the latter gets to host the SEA Games. This trend correlates with the numbers of the actual overall SEA Games gold medal tally in which Indonesia wins about every one of them during the time period. Thailand dominated the tally by being the # 1 country from 1999-2013. Since then, it has been generally been either # 2 or # 3. This trend correlates with Thailand's performance in the overall tally which sees them usually in # 2 in editions hosted in major powerhouses and in # 1 in editions hosted in non-powerhouse countries such as in Laos, Brunei and Myanmar with the exception of 2015 in that Thailand won the overall tally in Singapore, but was only # 2 in the Olympic events tally. Vietnam has been the best performing country in the Olympic events tally since 2019. They have been usually in the top 3 since the 2003 edition. Analysis of trends: It is my belief that the explanation of the fluctuating performances of the major powerhouses is correlated with their socio-economic development. Indonesia's dominance in the 1980's and 1990's came along with their relative positive economic development trend until the Asian Economic crisis in 1998 in which saw a huge economic downturn and political turmoil within the country. Since 1997, Indonesia has never won the gold medal tally in a SEA Games hosted outside of its country. Thailand 's dominance during the 1999-2013 correlated with the period of relative economic prosperity that came with the boom of tourism and services sector, while its gradual drop-off since 2015 coincided with the the country's failure to increase its pace of economic development as well as having an internal political turmoil since the 2006 coup. Vietnam's rise coincides with the gradual rise of its economic development as a result of receiving an increase of foreign investment money from foreign businesses. The reason why economic development is a main reason for a country's performance in the gold medal tally is due to the fact that all countries' sports programs are funded by their respective state government. Thus, the better economic shape a country can be in, the more likely they're going to do well in the gold medal tally. Economic development is more of a key factor when you consider the fact that gentically, none of the SEA countries have a huge competitive advantage in terms of their physical features/structure over others. I would admit though, that there is a flaw in my argument as Singapore, the most prosperous country in the region has never won the gold medal tally, although they have been getting better in the past decade.

Rifda Irfanaluthfi is the only Indonesian gymnast who I know in the past decade that has the capability and has won the gold medal at the sea games as well as winning a silver at the 2018 Asian Games. It's unfortunate by the time she qualified for the 2024 Olympics, her body has been beaten up by injuries and did not perform well at Paris.

It is a shame that a stupid rule has chased away who is likely considered to be the best world class Southeast Asian athlete within the Olympic Sports.

I have read the article and I agree with your sentiment. I feel bad about the one event limit per athlete because it does not allow that particular athlete to show his/her entire capabilities. I am sure that if Thailand has a gymnast at the caliber of Carlos Yulo, this rule won't take place. I have stated before that such rule is an example of Thailand trying to use shortcuts in terms of cutting some of the Olympic events that they are not good at as well as other rules and restrictions to maintain its chance of winning the overall gold medal tally. I also think such underhanded tactics that is show by Thailand and previous host is a reflection on the overall political and sports governance culture of the Southeast Asian region which values winning in all costs over fairness and good sportsmanship. This news about the one event per athlete rule has not been reported within other media outlets in Southeast Asia or in Thailand. If this news broke out to the Thai media, most of Thai sports fans would not be in favor for such rule as they have complained about unfair rules and controversies in past Sea Games hosted by other countries. And I don't think it will broken to Thai media since most local outlets rely on Thai sports associations for access to news and information. However, the reaction may vary through individual to individual. Some might be outspoken about their displeasure about such rule noting that Thailand is not any better than other SEA Games hosts in being a fair host. Others are likely to be silent as wither they want to be loyal to their sense of Thai patriotism or develop a disease of cognitive dissonance and not accept such truth. I have written extensively about some of my displeasure of this year's Olympic sports events program for this year's Sea Games in this topic thread. Please kindly read my post in this thread from last month if you like to comment or exchange your opinions with me.

Happy that the Steelers win, although it shouldn't be a close game at the end because Pittsburgh dominated the first three quarters. Hopefully they can get enough rest in the bye week to beat the Browns and Burrow-less Bengals in weeks 6 and 7.

I think one of the best ways to keep on track of American athletes is to look at their performances in world championships in Olympic sports as well as their world rankings in comparison to the rest of the world before the 2028 Olympics. This will be a nice way of analyzing the amount of medals that we (Team USA) can win come LA 2028.

And this is the last part of my analysis/breakdown of the percentage of the hosted Olympic events in this year's SEA Games. It is a bit weird to find asymmetry of the list of Olympic events hosted in several sports. And I noticed that has been a trend since around 2017. For instance, in 2017, Malaysia hosted the road race events, but not the time trial cycling events. Malaysis also neglected to host the all-around events for gymnastics. In 2019, Philippines hosted shooting trap for men, but not skeet for men as well no skeet and trap shooting events for women. And there's a bunch examples for the 2022 and 2023 editions. For the 2025 edition, you will probably noticed that the individual and team all-around events for artistic gymnastics as well a number of track cycling, canoe sprint and judo events are missing from this year's edition in Thailand. One of the numberical facts is that there are 31 2028 Olympic events that was hosted in the 2007 SEA Games in Thailand, but will not featured in this year's edition (7 in canoeing, 6 in cycling, 6 in judo, 5 in diving, 4 in gymnastics, 2 in Rowing and 1 in shooting). There's a lot of events. In fact, if you add those those 31 events into this year's program, it will raise the number of 76% to 84 %. My summary takes are that the amendment to the SEA Games charter did help a bit for Thailand to host nearly all of the Olympic Sports, which would happen anyway even without the amendment. However, in terms of the number and percentage of Olympic sports events, those numbers do not increase and lag behind some of the percentage numbers of SEA Games edition of a decade plus ago. The issue is that recent host countries have taken the cunning strategy to cut out events that there are not likely going to win. In the case of Thailand, they cut out the artistic gymnastics all around team and individual events because they know they cannot beat the caliber of an Olympic champion athlete in Carlos Yulo. And you can make the conjecture or educated guess as to why the other 2028 Olympic events were not hosted this year. Does this make Thailand the worst host ever? No, since Thailand still hosts slightly more Olympic events, percentage wise, than some of the other recent hosts like the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, etc. But it does not make Thailand the examplary of good sportsmanship that Thai sports fan like to think. Since I can read Thai, I have frequented in some of the Thai language forums, and a good number of Thai sports fans see that in recent sea games editions, the hosts have failed to adequately host a good amount of Olympic events. However, they failed to realize that Thailand is not much better than its neighbors. The Thai media has also failed to report such critical perspective of this kind of issue because many reporters are reliant on being inn the good graces with sports authority figures into have access to report major sports events. Also, Thailand does not have a culture of honest and hard journalism as the country is at best a semi-democratic state. @JoshMartini007 You are right of the weirdness of the exclusion of some events. And while hosting every Olympic event is not to be expected, I think the percentage should be at least around the 80 percent area with an attempt to trying to match the percentage of the 90 percent area of the Asian Games. It sure does hosting a bunch of events in some nadir induced sports like woodball and a litany of martial arts events. For reference, you can see the entire list of SEA Games events hosted in this year's edition, both olympic and non-olympic events with the exception of five events (4 of them in athletics) since this was the next-to-last draft of the total list of events. There are altogether 574 events and as you can see there is too many non-olympic events that is hosted here. I like to see the opinions of both Asean and non-Asean users about the amount of Olympic events hosted in the sea games. My apologies of using a lot of space for these posts. Events 569 Final.pdf

My analysis of the Olympic events hosted in the 2025 SEA Games has three parts and two posts, so please bear with me. In terms of the percentage of hosted Olympic events, the 76.07 percentage is the highest since the 2011 SEA games that was hosted in Indonesia, but still not as high as when Thailand last hosted the SEA Games in 2007. Here is the list of SEA Games and percentage of hosted Olympic events as caculated vis-a-vis the total amount of the preceding Olympic Games since 1991 (i.e. 2022 and 2023 sEA Games editions and thier hosted Olympic events will be counted as a percentage of the total amount of events hosted in the 2024 Olympics as it falls under the 2024 Cycle): 1991 Philippines: 175/256 events hosted (68.36 %). 17/25 sports hosted. 1993 Singapore: 175/271 events hosted (64.58 %). 18/26 sports hosted 1995 Thailand: 195/271 events hosted (71.96 %). 19/26 sports hosted. 1997 Indonesia: 248/295 events hosted (84.07 %). 23/28 sports hosted. 1999 Brunei: 123/300 events hosted (41 %). 12/28 sports hosted. 2001 Malaysia: 231/302 events hosted (76.49 %). 21/28 sports hosted. 2003 Vietnam: 234/302 events hosted (77.74 %). 21/28 sports hosted. 2005 Philippines: 231/302 events hosted (76.49 %). 24/28 sports hosted. 2007 Thailand: 253/302 events hosted (83.77 %). 27/28 sports hosted. 2009 Laos: 175/302 events hosted (57.95 %). 15/26 sports hosted. 2011 Indonesia: 252/302 events hosted (83.44 %). 22/26 sports hosted. 2013 Myanmar: 201/306 events hosted (65.69 %). 21/28 sports hosted. 2015 Singapore: 215/306 events hosted (70.26 %). 24/28 sports hosted. 2017 Malaysia: 207/340 events hosted (60.88 %). 24/33 sports hosted. 2019 Philippines: 230/339 events hosted (67.85 %). 29/33 sports hosted. 2022 Vietnam: 234/329 events hosted (71.12 %). 23/32 sports hosted. 2023 Cambodia: 193/329 events hosted (58.67 %). 21/32 sports hosted. 2025 Thailand: 267/351 events hosted (76.07 %). 33/36 sports hosted. The 76.07 percentage of the 2025 edition fells short of the 2007 edition that Thailand last hosted as well as the 1997 and 2011 editions in Indonesia. Since 2011, the percentage of Olympic hosted events never gets above 80 percent. These figures pales in comparison to the Asian Games, which usually hovers around 90 percent: 1990 China: 229/256 events hosted (89.45 %). 22/25 sports hosted 1994 Japan: 245/271 events hosted (90.41 %). 26/26 sports hosted 1998 Thailand: 261/300 events hosted (87 %). 26/28 sports hosted 2002 South Korea: 280/302 events hosted (92.72 %). 27/28 sports hosted 2006 Qatar: 269/302 events hosted (89.07 %). 27/28 sports hosted 2010 China: 285/302 events hosted (94.37 %). 26/26 sports hosted 2014 South Korea: 287/306 events hosted (93.79 %). 28/28 sports hosted 2018 Indonesia: 321/340 events hosted (94.41%). 32/33 sports hosted 2023 China: 318/329 events hosted (96.66%). 31/32 sports hosted 2026 Japan: 325/351 events hosted (92.59%). 34/36 sports hosted

Part 2: In this year’s SEA Games, 33 out of the 36 sports competed in Los Angeles will be hosted in Thailand. Surfing, lacrosse and flag football are the three sports left out of this year’s program. In terms of the Olympic sports events, according to my estimation, 267 out of the 351 events at LA will be hosted in Thailand, which accounts to 76.07%. Here is the breakdown of events that are will be hosted and left off: 2028 Olympic Events Hosted in 2025 SEA Games: (267/351 events; 76.07 %) Core Sports Aquatics-Artistic Swimming (2 out of 2 events hosted) Events hosted: Women: Duet, Team Aquatics-Diving (3/8) Events hosted: Men: 3 m Springboard, Synchronized 3 m Women: Synchronized 10 m Events left out: Men: 10 m Platform, Synchronized 10 m; Women: 3 m Springboard, 10 m Platform, Synchronized 3 m Aquatics-Swimming (40/43) Events hosted: Men: 50 m Freestyle, 100 m Freestyle, 200 m Freestyle, 400 m Freestyle, 800 m Freestyle, 1,500 m Freestyle, 50 m Backstroke, 100 m Backstroke, 200 m Backstroke, 50 m Breaststroke, 100 m Breaststroke, 200 m Breaststroke, 50 m Butterfly, 100 m Butterfly, 200 m Butterfly, 200 m Individual Medley, 400 m Individual Medley, 4 x 100 m Freestyle Relay, 4 x 200 m Freestyle Relay, 4 x 100 m Medley Relay, 10 km Open Water Women: 50 m Freestyle, 100 m Freestyle, 200 m Freestyle, 400 m Freestyle, 800 m Freestyle, 1,500 m Freestyle, 50 m Backstroke, 100 m Backstroke, 200 m Backstroke, 50 m Breaststroke, 100 m Breaststroke, 200 m Breaststroke, 50 m Butterfly, 100 m Butterfly, 200 m Butterfly, 200 m Individual Medley, 400 m Individual Medley, 4 x 100 m Freestyle Relay, 4 x 200 m Freestyle Relay, 4 x 100 m Medley Relay, 10 km Open Water Events left out: Men: 800 m Freestyle; Women: 1,500 m Freestyle; Mixed: 4 x 100 m Medley Relay Aquatics-Water Polo (2/2): Events hosted: Men’s Team, Women’s Team Archery (6/6): Events hosted: Men: Recurve Individual, Recurve Team Women: Recurve Individual, Recurve Team Mixed: Recurve Team, Compound Team Athletics (47/48): Events hosted: Men: 100 m, 200 m, 400 m, 800 m, 1,500 m, 5,000 m, 10,000 m, 3,000 m Steeplechase, 110 m Hurdles, 400 m Hurdles, 4 x 100 m Relay, 4 x 400 m Relay, Marathon, 20 km Walk, High Jump, Pole Vault, Long Jump, Triple Jump, Shot Put, Discus Throw, Hammer Throw, Javelin Throw, Decathlon Women: 100 m, 200 m, 400 m, 800 m, 1,500 m, 5,000 m, 10,000 m, 3,000 m Steeplechase, 100 m Hurdles, 400 m Hurdles, 4 x 100 m Relay, 4 x 400 m Relay, Marathon, 20 km Walk, High Jump, Pole Vault, Long Jump, Triple Jump, Shot Put, Discus Throw, Hammer Throw, Javelin Throw, Heptathlon Mixed: 4 x 400 m Relay Events left out: Mixed: 4 x 100 m Relay Badminton (5/5): Events hosted: Men’s Singles, Women’s Singles, Men’s Doubles, Women’s Doubles, Mixed Doubles Basketball (2/2): Events hosted: Men’s Team, Women’s Team Basketball 3x3 (2/2): Events hosted: Men’s 3x3, Women’s 3x3 Boxing (11/14): Events hosted: Men: -57 kg (-55 kg), -60 kg, -63.5 kg (-65 kg), -69 kg (-70 kg), -80 kg Women: -50 kg (-51 kg), -54 kg, -57 kg, -60 kg, -66 kg (-65 kg), -70 kg Events left off: Men: -90 kg, +90 kg Women: -75 kg Note: Since the boxing program is not entirely aligned with the weight categories implemented by World Boxing after the 2024 Olympics, I took the liberty in equating some of the older weight categories to the new ones made for the 2028 Olympics. Canoeing (5/16): Events hosted: Men: Slalom: C1, K1 Women: Sprint: C2 500 m; Slalom: C1, K1 Events left out: Men: C1 1,000 m Sprint, C2 500 m Sprint, K1 1,000 m Sprint, K2 500 m Sprint, K4 500 m Sprint, Extreme Slalom; Women: C1 200 m Sprint, K1 500 m Sprint, K2 500 m Sprint, K4 500 m Sprint, Extreme Slalom Cycling (8/22): Events hosted: Men: Road Race, Time Trial, Team Sprint, Team Pursuit, Keirin, BMX Women: Road Race, Time Trial Events left out: Men: Sprint, Madison, Omnium, Olympic Cross Country, BMX Park; Women: Team Sprint, Sprint, Keirin, Team Pursuit, Madison, Omnium, Olympic Cross Country, BMX Racing, BMX Park Equestrian (6/6): Events hosted: Mixed: Dressage Individual, Dressage Team, Eventing Individual, Eventing Team, Show Jumping Individual, Show Jumping Team Fencing (12/12): Events hosted: Men: Eppe Individual, Foil Individual, Sabre Individual, Eppe Team, Foil Team, Sabre Individual; Women: Eppe Individual, Foil Individual, Sabre Individual, Eppe Team, Foil Team, Sabre Individual Field Hockey (2/2): Events hosted: Men’s Team, Women’s Team Football (2/2): Events hosted: Men’s Team, Women’s Team Golf (2/3): Events hosted: Men’s Individual, Women’s Individual Events left off: Mixed Team Gymnastics (12/19): Events hosted: Men: Floor Exercise, Pommel Horse, Rings, Vault, Parallel Bars, Horizontal Bar Women: Floor Exercise, Vault, Uneven Bars, Balance Beam, Rhythmic All-Around, Rhythmic Group; Events left out: Men: Artistic Team, Artistic All-Around, Trampoline; Women: Artistic Team, Artistic All-Around, Trampoline Mixed: Artistic Team Handball (2/2) Events hosted: Men’s Team, Women’s Team Judo (9/15): Events hosted: Men: -73 kg, -81 kg, -90 kg, -100 kg Women: -57 kg, -70 kg, -78 kg, +78 kg Mixed: Team Events left out: Men: -60 kg, -66 kg, +100 kg; Women: -48 kg, -52 kg, -63 kg Modern Pentathlon (0/2): No Olympic events hosted. Events left out: Men's Individual, Women's Individual Note: While the sport is included in the SEA Games program, none of the individual events include all of the elements of the format, in particularly the fencing portion of the competition. The SEA Games program included Laser-Run and triathlete formats. Rowing (7/15): Events hosted: Men: Single Sculls, Double Sculls, Coastal Single Sculls Women: Double Sculls, Quadruple Sculls, Fours, Coastal Single Sculls Events left out: Men: Pairs, Fours, Quadruple Sculls, Eights; Women: Single Sculls, Pairs, Eights; Mixed: Coastal Double Sculls Rugby (2/2): Events hosted: Men’s Sevens, Women’s Sevens Sailing (7/10): Events hosted: Men: iqFoil, ICLA 7, Kiteboarding Women: iqFoil, ICLA 6, Kiteboarding Mixed: 470 Events left out: Men: 49er Women: 49er FX Mixed: Nacra 17 Shooting (13/15): Events hosted: Men: Rifle 3x 40, Air Pistol, 25 m Pistol, Trap, Skeet Women: Air Rifle, Rifle 3x 40, Air Pistol, 25 m Pistol, Trap, Skeet Mixed: Air Rifle Team, Air Pistol Team Events left out: Men: Air Rifle; Mixed: Trap Team Skateboarding (4/4): Events hosted: Men: Street, Park Women: Street, Park Sport Climbing (6/6): Events hosted: Men: Bouldering, Lead, Speed Women: Bouldering, Lead, Speed Table Tennis (5/6): Events hosted: Men’s Singles, Women’s Singles, Men’s Doubles, Women’s Doubles, Mixed Doubles Events left off: Mixed Team Taekwondo (8/8): Events hosted: Men: -58 kg, -68 kg, -80 kg, -87 kg (+80 kg) Women: -49 kg, -57 kg, -67 kg, -73 kg (+67 kg) Note: The -87 kg and -73 kg categories are not +80 kg and the +67 Olympic categories in the truest sense. But I took the liberty to count them as representative of the +80 kg and +67 kg Olympic categories because those who compete in the -87 and -73 kg has to weight more than 80 kg and 67 kg respectively. Tennis (5/5): Events Hosted: Men’s Singles, Women’s Singles, Men’s Doubles, Women’s Doubles, Mixed Doubles Triathlon (3/3): Events Hosted: Men’s Individual, Women’s Individual, Mixed Team Relay Volleyball (2/2): Events Hosted: Men’s Team, Women’s Team Beach Volleyball (2/2): Events Hosted: Men’s Beach, Women’s Beach Weightlifting (5/10): Events Hosted: Men: -61 kg, -73 kg Women: -49 kg, -59 kg, -71 kg Events left out: Men: -89 kg, -102 kg, +102 kg; Women: -81 kg, +81 kg Note: Since the SEA Games weightlifting program was based out of the 2024 Olympics weight categories, I took the liberty to evaluate this particular sports program to the standards of the 2024 Olympic sports program. Despite the different of weight categories between the 2024 and 2028 Olympics, this does not affect the overall amount of Olympic events since both 2024 and 2028 Olympics contain 10 events. Wrestling (12/18): Events hosted: Men’s Freestyle: -57 kg, -65 kg, -74 kg, -86 kg Men’s Greco-Roman: -60 kg, -67 kg, -77 kg, -87 kg Women’s Freestyle: -50 kg, -53 kg, -57 kg, -62 kg Events left out: Men: -97 kg Freestyle, -125 kg Freestyle, -60 kg Greco Roman, -130 kg Greco Roman; Women: -68 kg Freestyle, -76 kg Freestyle Non-Core Sports Baseball & Softball (2/2): Events Hosted: Men’s Baseball, Women’s Softball Cricket (2/2): Events Hosted: Men’s T20, Women’s T20 Squash (2/2): Events Hosted: Men’s Singles, Women’s Singles