"You brought this as "proof" but now you are saying that it is irrelevant. For me it's an absurd claim."
I didn't bring it as proof for anything. If one country is forbidden to play at the world cup by another country that invaded it just weeks before, then that's a scandal for me and if that country was one of the biggest rivals of the eventual world champion, then the title loses at least some of its value in my opinion, but we obviously disagree about that one. At least we agree that the first italian win was a joke. Is there any proof for german doping? If yes, then this would also make that world cup a joke. I didn't know about the brazilian scandal and i never claimed that i did know about all world cups, but good that you brought it up, because it means that Germany should be tied first place in world cups together with Brazil. In the end the essence of this discussion is that world cup wins from 80 years ago don't really have much relevance, because it was a completely different game. Italy won only 2 world cups after 1938, noone in his right mind would put them on the same level as Brazil or Germany. Margaret Court won 24 slams, but noone seriously considered her as great as Williams or Graf, because she won her titles in a time when the competition was clearly weaker, the same is true for Italy concerning football, they won half of their world cups in a time when there weren't really any professional league. That is the reason why many experts consider Italy the Maragaret Court of football.