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Serbia National Thread


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To za bodovanje znam. Za spajanje tezinskih kategorija isto znam, i koliko je tesko biti u 6 na olimpijskoj listi. Pobedom u kvizu Olimpijac i odlaskom u London, a takodje i zaposlenjem izgubio sam malo interesovanja i pre svega vremena za detaljno pracenje. Nekako da nema ovog foruma, tzv.mali sportovi tesko se jos uvek probijaju, pogotovo na netu.

 

Sto se kajaka tice, mislim da je dobro SP iza nas.

 

Fokusiracu se samo na OI discipline. 

 

Milica je odlicna, ali definitivno ne treba da vesla 3 discipline. Mislim da je medalja u zenskom cetvorosedu pored Nemacke, Madjarske, Belorusije, Novog Zelanda, Poljske utopija. Tu nema sta da trazimo. Bolje napraviti dobar dvosed. A mlade devojke (Dostanic, Reljic) u cetvorosed. Milica takodje u k1 500 mislim da nema sansi. Mislim da je za nju najbolje k1 200 i eventualno k2 500 i to je to. Tu imamo sanse za medalju i to je to za sada, dug put je do 2020. Sto se muskaraca tice, nema sta. Igrom slucaja Marko je presao u k2 1000 pred Moskvu 2014. Pokazalo se odlicno. I to forsira. K1 ga vise ne interesuje. Ovo nam je bazni camac za medalju i sve treba da bude podredjeno njemu. K4 500 nije los. Pajic je odlican u njemu,treba naci dobitnu kombinaciju, videti da li neko od muskih sprintera ima izdrzljivost za 500m. Sto se sprinta tice, Dragosavljevic sazreva kao osoba, dobio je dete. Bice on sve konstantniji, ali sprint je lutrija mada me brine snaga rivala. Britanac, Letonac su poceli da drze nivo stalno na takmicenjima. Uglavnom imace konkurenciju uvek, treba videti sta ce Novakovic i Grujic odluciti. Ambiciozni su oni. Kajak realno moze do maksimum  2 medalje na OI. Tesko do vise od toga.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Aleksandar Marjanovic said:

To za bodovanje znam. Za spajanje tezinskih kategorija isto znam, i koliko je tesko biti u 6 na olimpijskoj listi. Pobedom u kvizu Olimpijac i odlaskom u London, a takodje i zaposlenjem izgubio sam malo interesovanja i pre svega vremena za detaljno pracenje. Nekako da nema ovog foruma, tzv.mali sportovi tesko se jos uvek probijaju, pogotovo na netu.

 

Sto se kajaka tice, mislim da je dobro SP iza nas.

 

Fokusiracu se samo na OI discipline. 

 

Milica je odlicna, ali definitivno ne treba da vesla 3 discipline. Mislim da je medalja u zenskom cetvorosedu pored Nemacke, Madjarske, Belorusije, Novog Zelanda, Poljske utopija. Tu nema sta da trazimo. Bolje napraviti dobar dvosed. A mlade devojke (Dostanic, Reljic) u cetvorosed. Milica takodje u k1 500 mislim da nema sansi. Mislim da je za nju najbolje k1 200 i eventualno k2 500 i to je to. Tu imamo sanse za medalju i to je to za sada, dug put je do 2020. Sto se muskaraca tice, nema sta. Igrom slucaja Marko je presao u k2 1000 pred Moskvu 2014. Pokazalo se odlicno. I to forsira. K1 ga vise ne interesuje. Ovo nam je bazni camac za medalju i sve treba da bude podredjeno njemu. K4 500 nije los. Pajic je odlican u njemu,treba naci dobitnu kombinaciju, videti da li neko od muskih sprintera ima izdrzljivost za 500m. Sto se sprinta tice, Dragosavljevic sazreva kao osoba, dobio je dete. Bice on sve konstantniji, ali sprint je lutrija mada me brine snaga rivala. Britanac, Letonac su poceli da drze nivo stalno na takmicenjima. Uglavnom imace konkurenciju uvek, treba videti sta ce Novakovic i Grujic odluciti. Ambiciozni su oni. Kajak realno moze do maksimum  2 medalje na OI. Tesko do vise od toga.

 

 

 

Pokusali su sa sprinterima u K4 nije islo nikako. Ali nikako. Tako da od toga nema nista. Ima talentovan junior Zdeler koji ima medalje na 500 i na ep i na sp za juniore, tako da ne bi bilo lose da ga vec sledece godine prikljuce timu. Njegova vremena na 500 uopste nisu losa.

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Ne znam tim je najbolje funkcinisao sa Rodicem. I taj njegovo odlazak nekoliko meseci pred Rio je sve poremetio, ali sve. Vise se nije znalo ko sta vesla, svadja devojaka, ma haos je bio.

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Ne mislim da bude vise od jednog sprintera u k4. Mozda se jedan uklopi. Sto bi rekao Djordje Visacki, najbolji je onaj camac i ona grupna postava koja najbolje ide. To je rekao posle Sidneja 2000. kada su odlucili da on vise ne vesla sa Stojicem. Veslacki savez je prica za sebe. Ali logika je sledeca: ni Zoric nije drugi najbolji na 1000m pa opet camac sa njim i Tomicevicem odlicno ide. Svega tu ima, neko ce camcu dati eksplozivnost, neko izdrzljivost, neko je strpljiv, neko moze da prati ritam. Ali o tome nek razmisljaju treneri, samo nemoj logika da bude kao pred Rio i zenske posade. 

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4 minutes ago, Aleksandar Marjanovic said:

Ne mislim da bude vise od jednog sprintera u k4. Mozda se jedan uklopi. Sto bi rekao Djordje Visacki, najbolji je onaj camac i ona grupna postava koja najbolje ide. To je rekao posle Sidneja 2000. kada su odlucili da on vise ne vesla sa Stojicem. Veslacki savez je prica za sebe. Ali logika je sledeca: ni Zoric nije drugi najbolji na 1000m pa opet camac sa njim i Tomicevicem odlicno ide. Svega tu ima, neko ce camcu dati eksplozivnost, neko izdrzljivost, neko je strpljiv, neko moze da prati ritam. Ali o tome nek razmisljaju treneri, samo nemoj logika da bude kao pred Rio i zenske posade. 

da on ima pojma o necemu davno bi se kao clan OKS-a pozabavio svojim savezom i njihovim rezultatima, koji su sve gori i gori :d

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Ne znamo iznutra kako funkcionise. Nekada iako znas sta sve i kako treba napraviti, neces da se zameraa nekome. Nije to nikada crno bela stvar. Mislim da niko iz OKS treba da se mesa u strucni rad. Posao funkcionera je da obezbedi budzet i uslove za pojedinacne saveze. Savez napeavi program priprema, OKS obezbedi novac. Ne vidim da se ljudi u samom veslackom savezu nesto bune previse. Pa odatle treba da krene. Ako se Visacki ili bilo ko mesa u rad pojedinacnih saveza nasta bi to licilo. Na cirkus. 

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onda je najbolje da ostane ovako kako jeste, da im je budzet skoro kao kajakaskom savezu, a rezultati nikakvi.......ako se ovako nastavi ne samo da necemo moci da se nadamo oi medalji, vec i ucescu

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4 minutes ago, DaniSRB said:

onda je najbolje da ostane ovako kako jeste, da im je budzet skoro kao kajakaskom savezu, a rezultati nikakvi.......ako se ovako nastavi ne samo da necemo moci da se nadamo oi medalji, vec i ucescu

 

Jao Dani i ti bas volis da kritikujes. Pa imaju bre medelju na SP 2015 i nekoliko sa EP gde ne dolaze sve najbolje ekipe. Sto je to kajakaski bolji, zato sto ima po vise od 2 na svakom EP i SP i na OI medalju. Svasta.

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