Boxing WB World Championships 2025

[George_D 1,591]

8 minutes ago, copravolley said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_World_Boxing_Championships

 

Look at the medal standings: Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan are completely dominant and I'd like to ask why this is happening? Are they really that strong, or do they have good contacts with the jury, etc.? Because before 2020, these two countries never dominated so clearly: yes, they were strong, but not to this extent. Secondly, they don't dominate in professional boxing either, so it's a strange situation... 

i think during era the turkic nations were the bulk of the medals

[copravolley 634]

3 minutes ago, George_D said:

i think during era the turkic nations were the bulk of the medals

The absence of Russia certainly changes hierarchies - I`m thinking here of the time after the collapse of the USSR: the 1990s and the beginning of the 21st century. Also Cuba used to be a powerhouse in this sport, but now it is much weaker.

Edited September 14, 2025 by copravolley

[George_D 1,591]

2 minutes ago, copravolley said:

The absence of Russia certainly changes hierarchies - I`m thinking here of the time after the collapse of the USSR: the 1990s and the beginning of the 21st century. Also Cuba used to be a powerhouse in this sport, but now it is much weaker.

Cuba's power in Olympics were boxing, athletics and volleyball. Now in all these 3 sports they face defections

[copravolley 634]

5 minutes ago, George_D said:

Cuba's power in Olympics were boxing, athletics and volleyball. Now in all these 3 sports they face defections

I wonder where Cuba would be today if communism had fallen in the early 1990s? Sportingly speaking. Would they be somewhere in the top 10 of the OG medal table, or also would they have a some problems?

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[JoshMartini007 2,821]

8 minutes ago, copravolley said:

I wonder where Cuba would be today if communism had fallen in the early 1990s? Sportingly speaking. Would they be somewhere in the top 10 of the OG medal table, or also would they have a some problems?

Given what happened to most of the former communist nations, Cuba would likely be a lot weaker from a sporting perspective.

[copravolley 634]

Just now, JoshMartini007 said:

Given what happened to most of the former communist nations, Cuba would likely be a lot weaker from a sporting perspective.

But there would be no desertions or escapes from the country.

[George_D 1,591]

15 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said:

Given what happened to most of the former communist nations, Cuba would likely be a lot weaker from a sporting perspective.

true, as united  doesn't have the success of ... 

[JoshMartini007 2,821]

21 minutes ago, copravolley said:

But there would be no desertions or escapes from the country.

True, but the sport budget would have been slashed decades ago.

[copravolley 634]

4 minutes ago, George_D said:

true, as united  doesn't have the success of ... 

In the first years after reunification, Germany was very strong until the late 1990s (you can see the medal table of Summer OG 1992) but only later did they weaken, but I don't know why. On paper, Germany should be better than the UK and France, not to mention Italy (I'm referring to economic factors, GDP, and population). It seems to me that Germany has recently been investing more heavily in winter sports, where it is the largest powerhouse alongside Norway and the USA.

[copravolley 634]

3 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said:

True, but the sport budget would have been slashed decades ago.

It depends on which path Cuba would take: for example, the path of Brazil or Venezuela/Haiti. It could go either way. It depends on who comes to power there and how powerful they are. Paradoxically, before Castro's revolution, Cuba was one of the richest country in the region: yes, the USA had a lot of influence there, but the country was not poor or bankrupt.