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12 hours ago, Jesse_Pinkman) said:

Pa realne sanse Angelina i Adriana, Elzan i Armin

Uz par dobrih rezultata imaju sansu i Bosko, Milica Emini, Marija Vucenovic, Slavko

Takodje malo verovatno da se tu nadju i Asmir, Jovancevic ili Anic, Anja i Nikola Kostic

Nekako mi je ton intervjua do tog pitanja bio optimisticniji, cak je spomenuo najveci broj ikada na OI ili tako nesto, a onda ova brojka. Ne kazem da nije realna, naprotiv, samo mi je ta izjava u kontradikciji sa prethodnim izjavama. 

Svakako, ovo jeste realan broj. Mozda za LA bude dvocifren broj, idemo ka tome.

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Јесте неуобичајено да неко са те позиције даје очекивање утемељено у реалности, обично воле да зачине те бројке.

Овај потенцијални тим од 6-7 би имао више конкурентних такмичара него они "двоцифрени" из Пекинга и Лондона заједно. Тако да сам ја задовољан што се тиче атлетике у тренутном циклусу.

 

On 8/10/2023 at 6:31 PM, Майкл said:

Тим за СП:

Ивана Вулета

Милица Гардашевић

Ангелина Топић

Адриана Вилагош

Армин Синанчевић

Асмир Колашинац

Елзан Бибић

Славко Стевић

Моја нека оптимистична очекивања за СП:

- 4-5 финала (Вулета, Гардашевић, Топић, Вилагош, Синанчевић)

- једнa медаљa (Вулета или Топић)

- једна норма (Топић)

- два државна рекорда (Бибић и Топић) и један лични (Стевић)

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Састав Србије - сениори, пушка: Милутин Стефановић, Миленко Себић, Лазар Ковачевић; сениорке, пушка: Андреа Арсовић, Теодора Вукојевић – обе ваздушна и МК пушка тростав, Ивана Анђушић Максимовић – ваздушна пушка, Сања Вукашиновић – МК пушка тростав; сениори, пиштољ: Дамир Микец, Димитрије Гргић, Душко Петров – сви ваздушни пиштољ. сениорке, пиштољ: Зорана Аруновић, – ваздушни пиштољ, Јована Тодоровић – ваздушни и малокалибарски пиштољ.

 

Evo ga sastav za SP koje pocinje sledece nedjelje. Ocekivan sastav. I dalje salju Petrova... Osim njega, najbolji sastav koji imamo.

Ocekivanja su mala, ocekujem jedno finale i 0 kvota. 

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Нисам испратио да ли је неко написао, али након много времена лепе вести из женског рукомета. Јуниорке ће се борити за 5. место са Мађарицама на ЕП. На турниру су победиле Швеђанке, Црногорке и Холанђанке.

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On 8/12/2023 at 6:02 PM, ChandlerMne said:

Evo ga sastav za SP koje pocinje sledece nedjelje. Ocekivan sastav. I dalje salju Petrova... Osim njega, najbolji sastav koji imamo.

Ocekivanja su mala, ocekujem jedno finale i 0 kvota. 

Ако добро тумачим систем квалификација, после СП наши имају још само 2 турнира (још 8 квота по дисциплини). Како ти се чини, да ли има неко шансе да дође до квоте до краја циклуса? Ово тренутно прети да буде историјски минимум.

 

За викенд на јуниорском ЕК у Скопљу наши узели 10 медаља (4 златне) и завршили као први на табели. Јесте да је ово један од најслабијих ЕК-ова ове године, али лепо је видети наше на врху. Неки од освајача медаља су још увек кадети.

 

Кренуло U20 СП у рвању, за нас почиње у среду кад крене женско рвање, пошто у слободном стилу нисмо имали такмичаре. У ГР ће наступити четврица: Огњен Јаковљевић, Антал Вамош, Бранко Дукић, Урош Крстин, а код девојака 5: Милица Секуловић, Јана Петровић, Јована Радивојовић (5. на ЕП), Дуња Лукић, Маша Перовић (3. на ЕП). Већини је прва година у јуниорима, Милица је чак и кадеткиња, па не очекујем велике резултате, али вреди испратити, посебно женско рвање.

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41 minutes ago, pedja789 said:

Ако добро тумачим систем квалификација, после СП наши имају још само 2 турнира (још 8 квота по дисциплини). Како ти се чини, да ли има неко шансе да дође до квоте до краја циклуса? Ово тренутно прети да буде историјски минимум.

Bice bas tesko doci do finala, a kamoli do kvote. Paklena konkurencija, puno Kineza, Indijaca bez normi, Amerikanci uvijek dobri na SP, generalno Azijati dominiraju kada su ovako bitna takmicenja u pitanju. Nema tu puno prostora za Evropu, mora da budu na 100% forme da bi imali sansu za finale. A u finalu nasi uglavnom slabo gadjaju. Vecina kvota se osvajala na SK a ne na SP. Ako uzmemo formu od ove i prosle godine u obzir, najvece sanse za finala imaju Teodora i Lazar. Ivana nema ni teoretske sanse, Andrea vrlo male na 10 m, Milutin vrlo male na 10 m, Milenko skoro nikakve, Sanja ove godine ocajna, Grgic takodje. Zanimljiva mi je Jovana, ona je mladja seniorka, mislim da bi mogla da iznenadi plasmanom u top 20. 

Naravno, ovo je sport gdje se desavaju sokovi, nadam se da ce biti nekog i na nasoj strani. 

Ipak, realno je da su skorovi danas u svim disciplinama suludo visoki. Skoro sam gledao neki SK, rezultati su bili sumanuti. 

 

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2, Biathlon - 10, Cross-Country Skiing - 6, Figure Skating - 1, Freestyle Skiing - 9, Luge - 8, Nordic Combined - 2, Short Track - 2, Skeleton - 1, Ski Jumping - 2, Snowboarding - 1)   Oceania (3 nations)    Australia: 54 (-3) (Alpine Skiing - 3, Bobsleigh - 4, Cross-Country Skiing - 7, Figure Skating - 4, Freestyle Skiing - 16, Luge - 1, Short Track - 2, Skeleton - 1, Ski Mountaineering - 2, Snowboarding - 14)  New Zealand: 20 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 4, Freestyle Skiing - 10, Snowboarding - 6)  Vanuatu: 1 (0) (Freestyle Skiing - 1)   Other (1 nation)    Individual Neutral Athletes: 17 (0) (Alpine Skiing - 2, Cross-Country Skiing - 3, Figure Skating - 3, Freestyle Skiing - 1, Luge - 2, Short Track - 2, Ski Mountaineering - 1, Speed Skating - 3)    Refugee Olympic Team: 1 (NEW) (Biathlon - 1)
    • Road to Junior World Championship International Test Matches   Tuesday 23rd December, 2025 ---------------------------------   -   1-3  -   2-13  -   3-7
    • Decent team, on european level ofc. In a normal tournament would certainly be a Quarterfinal contender.   In a NHL level gonna be, hard slash impossible, to keep the rhythm for the guys though, but definitely a nice roster on a WCh level for sure.   Nice satisfaction for Bellemare, one great last dance for this huge hockey legend. Fully deserved. He and Da Costa + Texier have possibilities to provide something and surprise some defences also in Milano.
    • Of all the valid points one can make, I'd say someone's mastery of the English language shouldn't really be one on an international forum like this. I think at least 80% of us don't have English as native language, and there's logically going to be a difference in levels.   Again, not disagreeing with the actual contents of what you and people here are saying, but attacking one's language skills (other than an innocent joke here or there, for which this isn't exactly the right place of discussion I assume) feels unnecessary and kind of takes away from the actual content
    • Yes, a local 56-year old woman who likely became unwell. There were no drugs or alcohol in play.
    • Team France    Goaltenders:   Julian Junca (HK Dukla Trencin, Slovakia, ) Antoine Keller (HC Ajoie, NL, ) Martin Neckar (SCL Young Tigers U21, Swiss U21-Elit, )   Defencers:   Yohann Auvitu (Black Wings Linz, ICEHL, ) Jules Boscq (HPK, Liiga, ) Enzo Cantagallo (Marseille, Ligue Magnus, ) Florian Chakiachvili (Rouen, Ligue Magnus, ) Pierre Crinon (Grenoble, Ligue Magnus, ) Hugo Gallet (KalPa, Liiga, ) Enzo Guebey (HC Davos, NL, ) Thomas Thiry (HC Ajoie, NL, )   Forwards:   Justin Addamo (Jukurit, Liiga, ) Pierre-Édouard Bellemare (HC Ajoie, NL, ) Charles Bertrand (Sport, Liiga, ) Louie Boudon (Atlanta Gladiators, ECHL, ) Kevin Bozon (HC Ajoie, NL, ) Stéphane da Costa (Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg, KHL, ) Aurélien Dair (Grenoble, Ligue Magnus, ) Floran Douay (Lausanne HC, NL, ) Dylan Fabre (Ässät, Liiga, ) Jordann Perret (Mountfield HK, Czechia, ) Anthony Rech (Rouen, Ligue Magnus, ) Nicolas Ritz (Angers, Ligue Magnus, ) Alexandre Texier (Montréal Canadiens, NHL, ) Sacha Treille (Grenoble, Ligue Magnus, )
    • Team France    Goaltenders:   Margaux Mameri (Meudon U20, France U20 2, ) Alice Philbert (EV Bozen Eagles, EWHL, ) Violette Pianel-Couriaut (Villard-de-Lans U20, France U20, )   Defencers:   Léa Berger (Univ. of Montreal, USports, ) Gabrielle de Serres (Unattached, ) Sophie Leclerc (Grenoble, France, ) Marie-Pierre Pélissou (HC Davos Ladies, SWHL A, ) Lucie Quarto (Lindenwood Univ., NCAA, ) Léa Villiot (Unattached, ) Elina Zilliox (Lindenwood Univ., NCAA, )   Forwards:   Chloé Aurard (ZSC Lions Frauen, SWHL A, ) Jade Barbirati (Quinnipiac Univ., NCAA, ) Lore Baudrit (ERC Ingolstadt, EWHL EC, ) Clémence Boudin (Cergy Pontoise II U18, France U18 3, ) Estelle Duvin (SC Bern Frauen, SWHL A,  ) Sehana Galbrun (HIFK, Auroraliiga, ) Margot Huot-Marchand (Rögle BK, HockeyAllsvenskan, ) Manon le Scodan (Clarkson Univ., NCAA, ) Julia Mesplède (Univ. of Vermont, NCAA, ) Emma Nonnenmacher (Concordia Univ., USports, ) Anais Peyne-Dingival (John Abbott College, QCHL, ) Clara Rozier (SC Bern Frauen, SWHL A, ) Anaé Simon (Lyon, France2, )
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