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Audiatur et altera pars

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    Audiatur et altera pars reacted to Topicmaster1010 in Short Track Speed Skating Discussion | Qualification to Winter Olympic Games Milano Cortina 2026   
    That's too bad. Athletes who finish in the top 32 (or 36 for the 1590m) should be the priority over the 5th athlete from a relay country.
     
    So Croatia loses their 2nd women's quota, Hong Kong loses their only women's quota and Poland loses their 3rd women's quota.
     
    This means that Great Britain, Slovakia and Ukraine should fill up the rest of the 1500m field since they are the highest placed reserves that doesn't require an additional quota.
     
     
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    Audiatur et altera pars reacted to Topicmaster1010 in Short Track Speed Skating Discussion | Qualification to Winter Olympic Games Milano Cortina 2026   
    Now that you mention it, it does feel pretty likely.
     
    This means that Italy and Canada would lose their 5th male quota and China would lose their 5th female quota. Poland, Croatia and Hong Kong would get to keep their 1500m quotas.
     
    I'll edit the table with these changes.
  3. Wow!
    Audiatur et altera pars reacted to Topicmaster1010 in Short Track Speed Skating Discussion | Qualification to Winter Olympic Games Milano Cortina 2026   
    2026 OLYMPIC QUOTAS
     
     
      Men Women Mixed Quotas Nation 500m 1000m 1500m Relay 500m 1000m 1500m Relay Relay M Quotas W Quotas Total Australia 1 1 1     1       1 1 2 Austria 1   1             1 0 1 Belgium 1 1 1 x 1 1 2   x 4 2 6 Canada 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 4 5 9  China 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 4 9 Croatia         1 1 2     0 2 2 Czechia             1     0 1 1 France   2 2   1 2 2 x x 2 4 6 Great Britain 1 1 2   1         2 1 3 Hong Kong   1 1       1     1 1 2 Hungary 1 2 2 x 1 2 2   x 4 2 6 Italy 3 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 4 5 9 Japan 2 2 3 x 2 3 3 x x 4 5 9 Kazakhstan 2 1     2 1 2   x 2 2 4 Korea 2 3 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 Latvia 1 2 1             2 0 2 Netherlands 3 2 3 x 3 3 3 x x 5 5 10 Neutrals   1 1   1 1       1 1 2 Poland 2 2 2   2 2 2   x 2 3 5 Slovakia         1         0 1 1 Turkiye 2                 2 0 2 Ukraine 1   1   1         1 1 2 United States 2 2 3   3 3 3 x x 3 5 8 Uzbekistan 1                 1 0 1 Total 32 32 36 8 32 32 33 8 12 56 56 112  
    Before I continue, I just want to say that this may not actually be complete accurate. You might notice that there's only 33 quotas assigned in the women's 1500m. That's because after the initial assignment of quotas, there were 115 quotas which is 3 over the limit. According to the qualification system, the 1500m distances are the last events to assign quotas since they have a max quota of 36 instead of 32. For the men's event, France, Hungary, and Ukraine have the last spots and removing them wouldn't affect the quota totals. Therefore unfortunately, I had to remove one quota from Croatia, Hong Kong and Poland to get the total to 112. We'll see what the NOC does about all this. If anyone actually knows the correct procedures, please comment below.
     
    Changes in Quotas from the last update:
     
    Men's 500m: 
    No changes
     
    Men's 1000m:
    In: Hong Kong 1
    Out: Ukraine 1
     
    Men's 1500m:
    In: Poland 2
    Out: Great Britain 3
     
    Men's 5000m Relay:
    In: Hungary
    Out: United States
     
    Women's 500m:
    In: Korea 3
    Out: France 2
     
    Women's 1000m:
    In: Neutral Athletes 1, China 3
    Out: Poland 3, Great Britain 1
     
    Women's 1500m:
    In: Kazakhstan 2, Belgium 2
    Out: Great Britain 1, Latvia 1, Slovakia 1, Ukraine 1, Hong Kong 1
     
    Full SOQC's Below:
     
    Men's 500m
     
     
    Men's 1000m
     
     
    Men's 1500m
     
     
    Men's 5000m Relay
     
     
    Women's 500m
     
     
    Women's 1000m
     
     
    Women's 1500m
     
     
    Women's 3000m Relay
     
     
    Mixed 2000m Relay
    *Only for teams with at least 2 men + 2 women
     
     
  4. Wow!
    Audiatur et altera pars reacted to intoronto in Short Track Speed Skating Discussion | Qualification to Winter Olympic Games Milano Cortina 2026   
    So this ended up being correct (reduction from the 1500), which is unfortunate, because the smaller countries pay.

    https://isu-d8g8b4b7ece7aphs.a03.azurefd.net/isudamcontainer/CMS/Corporate-Site/Governance/Transparency/ISU-Communications/2755-OWG-2026-Entry-Quotas-Short-Track-1765370602-8812.pdf
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    Audiatur et altera pars reacted to intoronto in Short Track Speed Skating Discussion | Qualification to Winter Olympic Games Milano Cortina 2026   
    Chinese media reported they earned 9 quotas, so this appears to be right.
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    Audiatur et altera pars reacted to erw in Short Track Speed Skating Discussion | Qualification to Winter Olympic Games Milano Cortina 2026   
    Therefore, the women's case would be much more simple. 1500m SOQC 35th, Hongkong(HKG) 1 could not get the new quota as they have never earned any quota places before 1000m. Instead, SOQC 37th, GBR 1 could get place instead. 
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    Audiatur et altera pars reacted to erw in Short Track Speed Skating Discussion | Qualification to Winter Olympic Games Milano Cortina 2026   
    After thorough review, I found that the rule should be applied like this
     
    Quota should be added when new members SOQC has reached his or her turn. 
     
    And the turn comes in 500-1000-1500 sequence.
     
    Also, if the starting place reaches 8, the additional quota is given, as soon as possible.
     
    And though it is my opinion, the total quota is 112, but the more important thing is that men's quota is 56 and women's quota is also 56. Therefore, 57th quota could not be given to either sex. 
     
    Therefore in Men's 1500m, When 4 teams with 8th starting place is reached (KOR, CAN, ITA, CHN) the men's quota is not 56 yet. (SOQC <27th in 1500m) However, when 3th member of NED gets starting place, and more importantly, new quota in relay discipline, the 56th member is full. This means that next order, USA3  and the Great Britain 2 starting place, which has no quota in 500, 1000 discipline, could not also be assigned. Therefroe, SOQC 37th, 38th would get starting place.
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