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I think that Lucia Martin Portuguese also won a quota because there is a 41-point difference between her and Ilieva and at the WC you can win only 32 points
So, according to my calculations, these 11 foil female fencers will try to snatch the second European quota by ranking:
Flora Pasztor, Kata Kondricz, Dora Lupkovics, Aida Mohamed
Olivia Wohlgemuth, Freya Cenker
Malina Calugareanu, Emilia Corbu
Carolina Stutchbury
Alina Poloziuk
Maria Teresa Diaz
The main favorite is Pasztor, but she'll need to beat Budenko, and, in the second round, Volpi. On the other hand, there is a really good draw for Carolina Stutchbury, who will face Guo Jessica Zia in second and Ariana Errigo in third, which can make her steal the quota from Pasztor. Malina Calugareanu will face Eleanor Harvey, which is obviously a bad draw for her. Other contenders need a final/medal and losses from rivals
Interesting fact: if USA and Italy will be in a same half or quarter, Ukraine 'll get the spot. So it means that there is a scenario in which we can receive quota before competition even starts
yes, we destroy this Bulgarian team, and their leader Ilieva is in great danger for receiving the quota place That's all about karma and what you said about Kharlan earlier
ExpandI think it's already done
There are some scenarios in which Bulgaria can overtake Ukraine, so it's not done yet
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Interesting match-up, if Bulgaria lost, it can not achieve Ukraine in the rankings
It's just so fun when our teams decides to make upsets at the end of qualification period - yesterday it was Italy in mens epee, now it's China in womens foil
Do you know how many WC starts will not be counted in the Olympic ranking? Is it 1 or 2?
Fantastic World Cup for Kharlan - she finally won her first gold at this level since 2019.
So proud of her and this victory shut the mouths of some users who talked nasty about the decision to give her a quota from the IOC now fencer from this user's country is in total danger of failing to qualify for the Olympics. So it's revenge
ExpandDoes anyone know what would happen in a tie?
Expandno, because it's Tomorrow + 3 more...and since they already have 2, it makes 6
But the last WC will be after the deadline so it will be included only in seeding ranking for OG
Therefore, we'll have Novi Sad tomorrow, Paris in January and Cairo in February + Plovdiv and Tbilisi
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FIE have fixed that
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men's Sabre now actually has 3 more Team competitions in the OQP:
Tbilisi (11/02/2024),
Padua (3/3/2024) and
Budapest (24/3/2024)
on the other hand, it's still uclear why also the women's Team Foil has 3 more events in early 2024, when Tomorrow the 3rd OQT is already scheduled (most likely, the tournament in
on April 21st, 2024 won't count towards the Olympic Qualification, but nobody has said/written anything about it)
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But it's correct, WF had 2 tournaments in the previous season (Plovdiv and Tbilisi) with 3 to go it feels right to have overall 5 tournaments
ExpandSo should i start to support Hungary to be better than Venezuela which will increase chance of Czechia to qualify as best of Europe?
Yes, absolutely
WC points is regular points (multiplied by 1), so it is 64-52-40-36 etc.
Expandwhich must be outside of all that
it can't because Russians support putin and war in Ukraine. We cannot shake hands to people who financed missiles which killed our nation every motherf.cking day
ExpandDoesn't matter, rules are rules, no matter how stupid they nay be. If Kharlan beats Ilieva, then be it.
The IOC already set the rules, that Russians will be allowed under neutral flag, so FIE were following that. If they were stupid enough not to anticipate such things, then it's on their hand, but don't bend the rules afterwards to save face..
I don't like when people get preferable treatment, doesn't matter if your name is Kharlan, Richardson, Chalmers, Zhang, or some guy from Cambodia.. Everyone follows the rules, until someone gets a bye.
Plus it was not like this was Kharlan's one and only chance. What about the team event, where Ukraine is in a top position? What about the individual tournament, isn't Kharlan a multiple time World Champion? There are still 4 World Cup events for the rankings as well, though i'm not sure what's the value there.
This is 100% a PR stint from Bach, since the DQ hit the newsfeed worldwide. I doubt if this was someone from Albania or Singapore he would be giving out WC's.
This isn't Kharlan's only chance and this quota may not even be used, but Kharlan is potentially suspended for 60 days for what? For not shaking hands with a Russian woman? None of the Ukrainians will do this, especially considering that Smirnova's brother is connected to the Russian army.
The disqualification was issued by the organizing committee, which is wrong and impossible, because a black card can only be given by the judge (doping is not taken into account) and no one else. The judge did not issue a black card to Olga, that is, he considered these actions to be normal.
It is absolutely obvious that Kharlan turned the Ukrainian-Russian situation in sports by this action, the fact that Russians are under a neutral flag does not make them non-Russian. There were agreements with the federation, they were not fulfilled, the next time everyone will think three hundred times about whether it is necessary to disqualify for such a stupidity as a handshake or if it is possible to do with other methods for saluting and ending the fight.
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ExpandSo Bach is like the Pope now. He is giving his blessings and apperently quotas on his desire.
I want a volleyball quota too mister President.
Babe, I don't want to disappoint you, but there would be a good chance that Kharlan would beat Ilieva in the second round and you would forget about the European quota forever, so this decision plays into the hands of Yoanna as well
Ok so Kharlan qualified at the OG via special quota at least (it was suggested by our favorite Thomas Bach)
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This changes nothing from what we have now, but if I'm not mistaken there are theoretical chances for Spain to take the quota if for example Algeria or Mexico will fall under 16th place and there'll be some reallocation spots.
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