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don't know about Kim but Nouri might not even make it to Sofia. not sure if our coach "forgives" him for this defeat. they may try another guy in Sofia. but with Russia, Armenia and Turkey plus few other countries all of them without quota at 87kg, I highly doubt anybody from Iran can qualify this weight in Sofia.
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yep it happens, this is why wrestling is always unpredictable. and it happened for Nouri before. he just never learns. and he just ruined our perfect chance of having a full team in Tokyo. congrats btw
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oh my god, that's unbelievable. fucking idiot . he was leading 4-0 COMFORTABLY , tried to push his opponent out of the mat and BANG 4 pts throw in last 30 seconds. losing 4-4. gifting the quota to someone who can't place in top 6 in our nationals. what an idiot.
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Semis are set 60: Walihan vs Mirzorajabov /// Gyanender vs Sharshenbekov 67: Ryu vs Vardanyan /// Geraei vs Ashu 77: Makhmudov vs Gurpreet /// Zhang vs Yabiku 87: Sunil vs Tursynov /// Nouri vs Peng 97: Saravi vs Chen /// Dzhuzupbekov vs Kim 130: Abdullaev vs Meng /// Kim vs Naveen
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huge huge upset, the 2012 Olympic Champion Kim Hyeon-woo lost to Gurpreet Singh of India
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as @Olympian1010 said whoever reaches the record first finishes higher. your 2nd and 3rd results don't matter at all. Pizzolato had to lift 207 to beat the Bulgarian, he didn't even try because he didn't care much about the CJ medal. he wanted the gold medal in total and 206 was good enough for that. bodyweight used to be the tiebreaker in weightlifting for a VERY long time (since the beginning until few years ago) but it doesn't matter anymore. btw the fact that this Bulgarian kid can't qualify for the Olympics just shows how terrible is this system. it closed the door for any young talent because you had to collect points from 2018! how old he was when the qualification period started?
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@Vic Liu sorry but I have to ask you another question tonight do you know anything about China's possible squad for the Asian Weightlifting Championship in Uzbekistan which will start in a week ? if I understand the rules correctly. everybody has to participate in these continental Champs to be eligible for the Olympics. so I guess the Chinese squad here will give us a better idea about who is going to Tokyo.
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thanks a lot I know I asked such questions before. but I'm trying to understand the naming system everywhere. so whenever we see someone from China with just one word as name, he is ethnic Mongolian and we shouldn't search for a second name.
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@Vic Liu can you help me with some Chinese names Hasibagena and Menghejigan have just one name ? Awusayiman Habila and Walihan Sailike? in what order you call these guys
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Time for freestyle 57: I believe the two biggest names are both in the bottom half, Higuchi (JPN) and Mongolia. the bottom half looks harder in general with Liu (CHN) and that guy from Tajikistan. still I believe the winner of JPN/MGL match will qualify. the top half will be between KGZ, KOR and UZB, Uzbekistan is bringing a new guy who was impressive in Ukraine. I say and 65: out of 3 "better" wrestlers here, two of them are in the top half. I think Bekbulatov will qualify easily from the bottom half. he is a former European champion from Russia. in top half our Yazdani will most probably face the Russian guy of Bahrain in the semis. while this guy had some good results I think the Yazdani junior can beat him. so and 74: Abdurakhmonov has to deal with 3 good wrestlers to qualify from the top half, I think he will. we have more wrestlers in the bottom half but I think at the end it will come to Iran and India wrestling in the semifinal. the Indian guy is new and I'm not really familiar with him, but he beat some good guys in the Indian trials so is dangerous for sure, still Emami is a world bronze medalist (he is new to this weight though) , still and 86: top half looks competitive with 4 good wrestlers, I think Takatani will qualify but all 3 other guys had some good results before. won't be easy at all. I see 4 wrestlers with a chance in the bottom half, KAZ, KOR, UZB and LBN. this guy from Lebanon (he is American in fact) left the LBN wrestling team when they forced him to withdraw against Israel, now he is back! but I assume he didn't train well recently. have a hard time to pick between UZB and KAZ here but since KAZ is the host so I think and 97: top half looks easy for the Olympic bronze medalist, Ibragimov should qualify easily. bottom half is crowded but still Mohammadin usually techs these kind of wrestlers (techs = 10-0 win) that Korean guy had a good run at the worlds in 2019 and I know MGL is strong but still people expect Mohammadian to challenge the great Sadulaev, this should be easy for him. and 125: again 4 "good" wrestlers in the top half, I was impressed by this Kazakhstani wrestler before. so I pick him for the top half. even though nothing is guaranteed. the bottom half is between MGL and KGZ and maybe JPN. I say and Uzbekistan is favorite to win 4 quotas (65, 74 and 97 are almost guaranteed to me) they have a good chance at 86kg and their 125kg is not that bad. it's possible if they qualify all 6 weights on Sunday.
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I can't remember the last time we were "this" lucky with the draw. or maybe one of our guys hacked the draw software this time if Kazakhstan had this draw I would say this is fixed for sure all of our 6 wrestlers won't face their main rivals before the final. unbelievable ! I will start with Greco 60: China already has the quota in the top half, maybe only that Mongolian kid can do something. the bottom half is a little more interesting, Sharshenbekov is huge favorite but Korea and maybe India won't be easy for him. I don't know this Korean guy, he is new to me but they are always good in this lower weights. and are easy picks here 67: top half is much much harder, with Ryu, Shermakhanbet , Vardanyan + JPN and KGZ. I pick Ryu since he is already in the semifinal. dream draw for Geraei! out of 6 guys "capable" of beating him 5 of them are in the top half! India has to be in the bottom half because of the seeding, I believe his biggest opponent is from China. and Geraei only has to beat the winner of CHN/IND! I say and 77: the great Kim Hyeon-woo is the main favorite and I think he will qualify from the top half but he got the toughest possible opponents here, Gurpreet from India and then Makhmudov (KGZ) who beat Kim at the Asian Games. I still think Kim survives this. the bottom half will be a direct match between China and Japan. really hard for me to pick between these guys but since the Chinese guy is new to this weight I say and 87: Sunil is already in the semifinal to face the winner of KAZ and JPN. I think these 3 guys are more or less in the same level. in a neutral country I would say India but to beat Kazakhstan in Kazakhstan you have to work a lot to beat the refs too! the bottom half looks good for our Nouri. he will face the winner of CHN/KOR in the semifinal. that won't be easy but still I expect Nouri to beat any of these guys relatively easily. so and 97: things are not very easy for the Asian Champion Saravi , he has to beat Uzbekistan and China to qualify but he will do that if nothing crazy happens. still he has to be careful. the bottom half looks more complicated with 4 or 5 wrestlers in the same level. while Kazakhstan will do its normal magic with the refs I expect that Kyrgyz kid to qualify. and 130: this one is more competitive than other weight, 7 wrestlers more or less in the same level. two groups. I think Abdullaev will advance from Group A, hard to pick the 2nd guy. group B will be closer , I don't know how good is the grandpa Tsurtsumia. he used to be very good but he is 40 ! I have a bold prediction here, wants to give it to China. but south Korea is a former bronze medalist. I say and but as I said all of these 7 guys are capable of wining the quota.
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I'm waiting for the brackets , I believe we will have them in an hour but the UWW website indirectly announced the seeded wrestlers, the start list is slightly different than the previous one, for example the other Russian wrestler of Bahrain is back and he will be the top seed at 65kg. those numbers is the final number of wrestlers per each weight. huge huge surprise that 40 years old Georgiy Tsurtsumia is back ! he is a 2004 Olympic silver medalist he was inactive since 2008 57 (9): Myrzanazar uulu Liu 65 (10): Ali 74 (12): Lee Sharipov 86 (10): Takatani Dauletbekov 97 (10): Ibragimov Kadian 125 (11): Batirmurzaev Lazarev 60 (9): Walihan Sharshenbekov 67 (13): Ryu Ashu 77 (9): no seeded wrestler 87 (8): Sunil 97 (9): Saravi Nara 130 (7): Kim Abdullaev 50 (5): Round Robin 53 (6): Amanzhol Keunimjaeva 57 (6): Anshu 62 (7): Kassymova Sonam 68 (6): Zhou 76 (5): Round Robin * in two weights with 5 wrestlers it will be round robin, the seeding doesn't matter. in 5 other events we have 6 or 7 wrestlers, which means 2 groups of 3 or 4. top 2 will be separated at least for the group round.
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points from other weights will be transferred without any change, if you receive 900pts when you participate at 102kg, that will be counted exactly as 900pts at 109kg too. for example you can see Brandhuber has exactly the same number of ranking points in all those 3 weights. but to be eligible you have to participate at least twice in a weight. Brandhuber has two results in any of those 3 weights, so he can pick any of them. but the French guy Bernardin Matam has only 1 result at 73kg. he is not eligible to qualify in this weight.
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Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
MHSN replied to uk12points's topic in Summer Olympic Games Tokyo 2020
I watch most of the things on the internet nowadays but since we are getting close to the Olympics, I "improved" my satellite channels to have more "options" and found some interesting Turkmenistani and Tajik sport channels if I want to watch football . our own sport channels show pretty much everything. (UCL, Serie A, La Liga, Premier League, BundesLiga, even France Portugal, sometimes even the Netherlands) I'm more interested in other sports. but I assume we are talking about different satellites, I don't think I can have what you have in Italy and vice versa. btw I used to be satisfied with having some Arab channels (mostly UAE) but then Al-Jazeera (now BEIN) happened and swallowed everything. -
nope, they never had. they had 3 from 2008 Olympics and served one year suspension because of that few years ago. 2017 if I'm not wrong
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This is the current list https://www.iwf.net/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2021/01/Number-of-ADRV_06012021.pdf but as I said Romania and Colombia has 3 cases already, for Romania it's almost a sure thing, Colombia still has chance to somehow survive
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Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
MHSN replied to uk12points's topic in Summer Olympic Games Tokyo 2020
this is sad, any country missing the Olympics is sad. I don't know (nobody knows I assume) how things work in North Korea but I assume winning an Olympic medal will change the life for everybody, even in North Korea. some of their athletes will miss their lifetime chance hopefully there will be a solution Turkmenistan is sending wrestlers to the Asian OQT, don't count on our Turkmen friends btw I recently found out I can watch most Turkmen state TV channels from where I live interesting stuff their sport channel shows "teaching Chess" + "Serie A " that's the best combination ever. and everything is green in their studios just kidding, not trying to make fun of any country, but between our neighbor countries, Turkmenistan is the one I'm less informed about. so I was kind of curious to see what's happening on their TV. -
rank in the competition doesn't matter here, records matter. I'm a bit lazy to calculate her and her appoints' ROBI points . but looking at the current ranking she is 17th, that sounds far from top 8 right ? but not really ! China has 4, remove 3 of them. Colombia and Romania are in verge of being banned completely. Russia has only 1 quota available, not sure if they use it here. same goes to Kazakhstan. she will be in top 10 with this and even for other countries you have to check their other weightlifters, they might have better WLers in other weights and not pick these girls after all. so I say anybody in top 20 in the current ranking has a chance to qualify, good chance actually. but nothing is guaranteed, you are sure about the quota only if the athlete is in top 8, for the rest you have to consider so many variables. I think she is the only Polish girl with a decent chance to qualify. on the men's side Michalski has a good chance if he is here (is he?) and lift a decent weight. he may qualify even without lifting a thing. slim chance for Zwarycz but that mostly depends on other countries and how they select their teams. you have some other guys in the ranking but I think only these 3 has a realistic chance to qualify. I say Poland will qualify 1 or (most probably) 2 weightlifters for Tokyo but I didn't check the start list, everybody should participate in this Euro to be eligible to qualify. this is a must. all weightlifters need to register in one competition in 2021 and for the European WLers this is the only chance (we have an event scheduled in Colombia too but I won't be surprised if they cancel it eventually) PS: IWF claims they sent the modified qualification rules to IOC to be approved, it's possible to have some minor changes. (with huge affects) This is the worst and most complicated qualification system ever
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it's really hard / almost impossible to analyze the current ranking, someone from the bottom of the list (with only 3 valid result) can move up the rank rapidly by a good 4th result. while most weightlifters already finished their 4th valid result and can only slightly improve their score. also most countries will have more quotas than they can, they have to pick some which will remove their other athletes from the other weights. I mean there are lots of variables. but in short GBR has a good chance to win 3 quotas. I think all 3 of them (Davies or Smith at 64, Godley at 71 and Campbell at +87) will qualify at the end. but nothing is guaranteed for any of them.
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The Asian Judo Championship starts tomorrow in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan the brackets are not published yet but I have some parts of them, the Iranian kid at 81kg has to beat Jordan first to meet the the top seed, the Mongolian hero, the greatest human on the planet earth Saeid Mollaei in the 2nd round ! that will be "interesting", but unfortunately this bout won't be even competitive, walk in park for the Mongolian hero. this will be the first competition for the Iranian team after something like 2 years. and since almost the whole "old team" left the sport (except just 1) , they had to build a new team with youngsters. they didn't even know they will be allowed to participate here until couple weeks ago, I'm not even sure if he can beat Jordan to even face the Mongolian hero.
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whoever reaches that record first (in snatch, CJ or total) finishes higher. in the case you explained, lifter A wins the total , when you are down 1kg in snatch you have to lift 2kg more in CJ to win the competition.
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Wrestling UWW African & Oceanian Olympic Games Qualifier 2021
MHSN replied to Totallympics's topic in Wrestling
list of qualified wrestlers 57: 65: 74: 86: 97: 125: good day for Algeria, they didn't qualify a single wrestler in men's freestyle last time in 2016. -
Wrestling UWW African & Oceanian Olympic Games Qualifier 2021
MHSN replied to Totallympics's topic in Wrestling
that was the ugliest way possible to qualify ! the RSA wrestler was totally healthy before the match, their heads bumped into each other and the doctors couldn't stop the bleeding. and if you can't stop the bleeding in 4 minutes you lost ! that's it. but what if the doctors suck ?! the wrestler will pay the price -
Wrestling UWW African & Oceanian Olympic Games Qualifier 2021
MHSN replied to Totallympics's topic in Wrestling
Midana for his 4th Olympics he is 36 now but he was a pretty good wrestler in his prime days. probably in top 8 of the world at some point. btw feel sorry for the Algerian wrestler, he was really devastated at the end but the call was obviously correct and he knew it himself , that was a desperate try -
Wrestling UWW African & Oceanian Olympic Games Qualifier 2021
MHSN replied to Totallympics's topic in Wrestling
The Egyptian guy Fathi gassed once again like his other matches, but this time the opponent didn't give him a second chance. he is good actually but with this level of conditioning he can't do anything. btw the Iranian guy of Australia was dominating this Tunisian wrestler in the first round but then he gave up a take down and Dakhlaoui turned him multiple times for a 14-3 win. I also think we share the same blood with the Egyptians their wrestlers always complain even when the call is "clearly" correct. that's our speciality !
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