Yes, now it`s official: https://www.coni.it/it/news/parigi-2024-frank-chamizo-azzurro-qualificato-nei-74-kg.html
ExpandNo freestyle quotas for
Zero. For the first time ever. And if we obvoously miseed 2 WW quotas, our freestyle is in deep crisis for a long time. Last Olympic medal was gotten in London 2012.
We finished with 2 WW and 2 GR quotas - the worst result in history. But the next cycle will be even more difficult for the men`s side as a result of the war.
We finish with 1 qualification - which equals the worst result in the 21st century - London 2012. From Sydney 2000 in 7 editions we usually had 2 quotas: 2000, 2008, 2016, 2020 and 1 in the mentioned London 2012 + as many as 6 Q in 2004 ( 2x2x2). I don't remember what happened that we made us do so well in that qualifications but during the Olympics itself, no one even advanced to the top six. However, there were editions with only 2 competitors, when each brought home 1 medal: gold in 2008, bronze in 2016 and bronze in 2020. Quantity doesn`t always = quality, although here in Paris there will be neither one nor the other . Our young girl goes there to learn and will probably be eliminated in the first round.
Edited by copravolleyBen Honis has no chance against the Chinese. Unfortunately, our native freestyle wrestlers are simply too weak physically. This is a gap that no amount of technical training, will to fight, ambition, etc. can bridge. Conyedo, on the other hand, couldn't find his place after moving to a higher category. He has no idea how to fight. Chamizo was motivated, but age is already taking its toll + huge competition + scandal in Baku. Miraculously, we are left with one qualification for women and avoid the embarrassment of the decade. However, I don't see the future of wrestling in Italy without major changes. There are two options: naturalization of foreigners or hiring a coaching staff from abroad. Or both. With the current staff, we are doomed.
Expandso Chamizo can get one? Or could it be credible that AIN is only represented by 1 Athlete?
I think the IOC must give him such a card. UWW is already done with it + kind of gave us back 1 card in Russo's case. Now all hope lies in Malago and his contacts with Bach. Then a wild card will be possible.
Expandcan some wrestlers have a wild card? how is it possible to get some?
As the name suggests: a wild card, i.e. something discretionary, e.g. when someone lost their qualifications due to a scandal, like Chamizo, or, for example, in fencing, Olga Charlan from Ukraine received a wild card after dsq at the World Championships, which she did not use because Ukraine advanced with the entire team.
ExpandIt's a fiasco for
only 2 quotas and no freestyle quota.
Italy will 99% remain with 1 qualification, unless Ben Honis does something great and defeats the strong Chinese. In the last few editions, our standard was two qualifications, sometimes one. The important thing, however, is that there was always a medal: 2020: Conyedo, 2016: Chamizo. We will send the first woman to OG since 2004: then we had 2 girls.
Expandthe problem is that here nobody is interested in wrestling, there are no important politicians rather than media ready to ride the wave of a protest against UWW
and our relationship with IOC at the moment is not as good as it was in the past: all the troubles and contrasts around the organization of the 2026 Winter Games won't make a favor to our cause right now
Giovanni Malago has good relations with Bach and is a member of the IOC. If he was personally involved, there is a chance that Chamizo would receive a wild card.
Edited by copravolleyExpandBy the way Chiamizo has chances to get quota too.
At the WCH`23 Sidakov was in TOP-5 and Bayramov was 6th.
Thus if Sidakov will be excluded (for taking part in that famous pro-war meeting) - Bayramov will get WCH quota and Chiamizo - EQ quota. The best possible solution for UWW )
And when will this be decided? After all, Chamizo and other athletes need to know how to plan training, etc. I don't believe in excluding Russians from combat sports: wrestling/judo, etc. Their federation has great connections in this federation and will not give up. They won't boycott themselves either. Where they wanted to boycott, they did not take part in qualifications, e.g. fencing or rowing. The only hope is that the wrestling federation, together with the IOC, will grant Chamizo a wild card, although they may now feel that they have already done the Italians a favor in promoting Russo.
Now imagine what would happen if Liuzzi somehow won the OQ and put on a show like she did today in Paris in front of a large audience in our country who don't normally follow wrestling. It would be a laughing stock for the entire country
Expandc'mon! she's already on another planet than Liuzzi
she did show that she can manage and play even with most of the top wrestlers in the world
Liuzzi is a joke, doesn't even have any idea of what she has to do on the mat...Today she came to this match only because of the draw
Stadnik in past time was a great, but she's old and has been losing a lot lately. Our competitor had no right to lose to her in such a way as if a little girl was fighting an adult champion. This fight is a joke and I have to watch it again
ExpandMy congratulations to
Russo saved your day but nobody saved our one.
Our coach was to emotional, but Ukrainian wrestling community sees that 3rd coution fully correct. He should react earlier - co cautions #1 and #2 - to prevent what had happen later.
Akobia lost this Olympic quota 3 times at the last moment. That is not a coincidence, it is her problem.
But she still has a chance to get quota, I hope
Thanks but our problem is serious. Russo has a lot of talent and that's why she saved herself but without a better coaching staff her talent will be wasted. When you look at the differences between the old Stadnik and Liuzzi, it's sad to see them. I think we need a good coaching staff from Eastern Europe, e.g. maybe Ukraine/Georgia? We have numerous and strong judo and boxing teams and in wrestling our girls look like children compared to their friends from Eastern and Southern Europe. Only great talents like Russo are able to break our powerlessness.
Expandthis is a joke!
I mean, Hrushyna made multiple capital mistakes, but winning a quota like this is just a joke after all that happened with Chamizo...
however, I told you that Russo had at least the chance to play an even match with the girl from
she defended well all the time and her resilience was rewarded by the dumb mistakes from Hrushyna
if only she could put some muscles on and find a true, great coach...
Yes, Russo has potential but she is young. However, such Liuzzi, I'm sorry, but she will never even be solid wrestler.
ExpandBulgarian TV BNT 3 (with a BUL VPN, of course)
or somewhere on VK, I guess
What do you think?
Expanda lucky draw, rather
however, don't underestimate Aurora Russo...she's talented, very talented (maybe still too unexperienced at this level, but the real problem is that we don't have any good coach that could help to develop her wrestling and improve up to becoming a consistent global medal candidate)
If Ukraine wasn't there, maybe, but unfortunately it will be a similar fight to Liuzzi from Stadnik. For our girls, such narrow QO are deadly.
ExpandHonestly, it's a good result that she was in the Olympic Play-Off. I didn't expected nothing more, wasn't her duty qualify.
Problems are, we're left with O in wrestling for the first time in 100 years. And no one will remember that our not very talented girls fought nicely. The problem is that for us the ultimate dream is for one competitor to advance to the Olympic Games in 18 events...
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