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  On 7/8/2024 at 1:22 PM, Jur said:

what do you want to look for?

 

Cause you can always filter the ranking by 3 per country, and that's it

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I would like to check all the athletes on the ranking, including those "bubbling under" or the other options from countries with 3 OQT.

 

It is not available anymore,

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  On 7/3/2024 at 8:25 PM, NearPup said:

There's almost no such thing as tourists that can qualify to the Olympics anymore. Skiing is the only sport I can think of where mediocre athletes from a big country can still qualify, outside of a few edge cases for some continental quotas.

 

Someone is always going to finish last, but when only 45 athletes can qualify in the 1500m you're a pretty dang good athlete even if you get the last ranking spot.

 

I think in this era where there are very tight qualification standards it doesn't make a lot of sense to have internal standards that are harder than the official qualification standard (outside of continental quotas, some of whom do in fact go to athletes that are genuinely not competitive)

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Judo could have any country from Oceania sending athletes to WC and getting a quota (Kiribati did that and more could have done it).

 

Obviously it is not THAT easy, you have to register, have some kind of basic training...

 

but yeah, there are still a couple of those.

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2016 Olympic Champion and 2020 bronze medalist :BRAThiago Braz just got a ruling from CAS to allow him to compete.

 

He had a good run at Troféu Brasil to someone that was (supposedly) without training for one year or so.

 

He won with 5.65, but failed his 3 attempts to 5.82.

 

Silver (Lucas Alisson Pedro) and bronze (Andreas Kreiss) had only 5.00.

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  On 6/22/2024 at 9:07 AM, heywoodu said:

Can the US trials be seen (not live, but on demand) anywhere? I doubt anything non-American shows it and those American things often seem next to impossible to watch if you're not American.

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Yesterday I watched here just after the swimming trials https://thetvapp.to/tv/wnbc-new-york-nbc-east-live-stream/ 

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  On 5/8/2024 at 2:43 PM, Jur said:

:SUD Yaseen ABDALLA

:JOR Moath ALKHAWALDEH

:CHA Valentin BETOUDJI

:CPV Samuel FREIRE

:ISV Eduardo Terrance GARCIA

:MLT Jordan GUSMAN

:PRK Il Ryong HAN

:MKD Dario IVANOVSKI

:CYP Amine KHADIRI

:KGZ Ilya TYAPKIN

:URU Cristhian ZAMORA

 

Receibed universiality quotas in Men's Marathon

 

 

:MDA  Lilia FISIKOVICI

:NAM Helalia JOHANNES

:BHU Kinzang LHAMO

:LES Mokulubete Blandina MAKATISI

:BUL Militsa MIRCHEVA

:ZIM Rutendo Joan NYAHORA

:PRK Kwang-Ok RI

:NEP Shantoshi SHRESTHA

:KGZ Sardana TROFIMOVA

 

Receibed universiality quotas in Women's Marathon

 

 

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Just realized that two quotas disappeared from the Road to Paris website!

:KGZ Ilya TYAPKIN
:MLT Jordan GUSMAN

I guess it's not over until is over!

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  On 6/15/2024 at 12:29 PM, Jose Luis said:

I understand that the 4 extra athletes from Spain for the mixed walking relays are AP alternate athletes, they are not quota places and they could only compete in the mixed ones in case of injury or justified cause that will cause the withdrawal of the totulars. For this I go to the qualifying processes where on page 2 it says: Mixed team RW In addition NOC can nominate a maximun total of two AP alternate athletes, one man and one women

On page 9 says AP alternate athletes are non-competing athletes and are not incluides within the athletes quota. AP alternate Athletes can only become competing athletes as per conditions outlined in the Late Replacement policy. I have looked for it and it is due to injury or cause of the owner.

 

Could someone confirm that I am correct?

https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Documents/Olympic-Games/Paris-2024/Paris2024-QS-Athletics.pdf?_ga=2.45402596.1788980774.1671555541-726101473.1622900989

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Nowhere on the document says that one NOC has to include athletes already nominated. Spain may feel that 2 races over the course of a couple of days is too much and select 10 athletes: 6 for individual and 4 for team. it is completely ok to do so. 

 

Maybe they prefer to keep their strongest options to be relaxed for the team competition. In addition 1 team 

 

Have they indicated who will participate in which?

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  On 6/14/2024 at 1:52 PM, De_Gambassi said:

Not your typical athletics venue. Tomorrow there will be a pole vault meeting at the national museum of air and space near Paris.

 

Renaud Lavillenie will be there chasing for the olympic qualification.

 

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amazing!!!
Any place to follow live score? I guess this is his last chance?

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  On 5/8/2024 at 8:52 PM, Dragon said:

I think World Athletics have made a terrible mistake here.

Yaseen Abdella :SUD has never run a road race and never competed above 5000m

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I couldn't really watch the whole video, but apparently he's going to the Olympics... He ran a 10k this Thursday, so maybe he's going up - and perhaps doing videos on the way? - he mentioned in the end "i will be able to represent Sudan, wheter or not I get a 5k standard or not"

 

It doesn't make much sense to me and apparently neither to IAAF.

 

 

Not sur

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  On 5/8/2024 at 3:36 PM, Jur said:

:URU is probably qualifying in Men's Long Jump, for example.

 

But for other natios I get it, marathon needs a lot of training and quotas can't be announced too late.

 

And about :KGZ and :PRK , they already broke that rule last year. They do it if they want. For example they gave a quota to :SSD in both men's 1500 and womens 200 last olympic games. So it's not uncommon. Also, :PRK guy likely qualifies by world ranking as he's #81. He only needs one person rejecting their place

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It's so sad what happened to :CHIHugo Catrileo



First of all he was in the top64 on the first deadline, so his quota should have been confirmed by then. But they totally ignored that. And now he was kicked out of the ranking due to the Universality quotas. I wonder if he can still climb back through reallocation.

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Updating how many quotas each country guarantees.
 

 

The qualification document indicates that each team can take 5 athletes on their gender relay and 4 athletes on their mixed relay
athletes with individual quota MUST participate in the M and F 4x100m and 4x400m, but it doesn't say anything regarding the mixed 4x400m (or I haven't found)

 

So I'm counting it as 5 (and 2 men and 2 women on the mixed relay), but obviously they could pick someone from 200m, 800m, 400m hurdles, etc.

(AFTER DAY 2)
120 female quotas (55 on 4x100m, 56 on 4x400, 9 on the mixed relay)
120 male quotas (58 on 4x100, 51 on 4x400, 11 on the mixed relay)

 

wow, it was 50%-50% if my math is right. Obviously, in the end, many if not most of these quotas will come through new EST or  individual ranking.


Female 4x100m


:AUSAUS - no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:CANCAN- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:FRAFRA- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:GERGER- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:GBRGBR- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:NEDNED- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:POLPOL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:USAUSA- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)
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:CIVCIV- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:ITAITA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:JAMJAM- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:NGRNGR- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:SUISUI- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:TTOTTO- no women (gets 5 female quotas)



Male 4x100m

 

:CANCAN- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:CHNCHN- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:FRAFRA- no men (gets 5 quotas)

:GBRGBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:ITAITA- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:JAMJAM- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

:JPNJPN- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:USAUSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

+
:AUSAUS- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:GERGER- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:GHAGHA- no men (gets 5 quotas)

:LBRLBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:NGRNGR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:RSARSA- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

 

 

Female 4x400m

:CANCAN- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:FRAFRA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:GBRGBR- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:IRLIRL - 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:ITAITA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:NORNOR- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:POLPOL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:USAUSA- 3 women (gets 2 quotas)
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:BELBEL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:ESPESP- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:INDIND- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:JAMJAM- 3 women (gets 2 quotas)
:NEDNED- 2 women (gets 3 quotas)
:SUISUI- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

 

Male 4x400m

 

:BOTBOT- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

:BELBEL- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:GBRGBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:GERGER- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:JPNJPN- 2 man (gets 3 quotas)
:ITAITA- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)

:NGRNGR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:RSARSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas) 
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:BRABRA-
 3 men (gets 2 quotas) 
:ESPESP
- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:INDIND- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:POLPOL- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:TTOTTO- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:USAUSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)


Mixed 4x400m

:BELBEL- 1 men + 1 woman (probably no additional quota)* the male and female 4x400 qualifed above
:DOMDOM- 1 men + 1 woman (gets 1 male + 1 female quota)

:FRAFRA- no athlete! (probably gets 2 male quotas)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:IRLIRL - 1 woman (probably gets 2 male quotas)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:NEDNED - 1 man + 2 women (probably gets 1 male quota)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:NGRNGR - 1 man (probably gets 2 female quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:POLPOL- 1 woman (probably no additional quota)* the male and female 4x400 qualifed above
:USAUSA- 3 men + 3 women (no additional quota)
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:BAHBAH- 1 man (gets 1 male + 2 female quota)
:GERGER- 1 man (probably gets 2 female quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:GBRGBR-  3 women + 1 man (no additional quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:JAMJAM- 3 men + 3 women (no additional quota)
:SUISUI- no athlete! (probably gets 2 male quota)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:UKRUKR- no athlete! (gets 2 male + 2 female quota)

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  On 5/5/2024 at 1:22 AM, Josh said:

Ok so won’t be much of an issue then. Great :d

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I'm pretty sure they added this now because I don't remember reading before. but the 4x400 mixed is still a bit of blur. Perhaps bigger countries can take other athletes, but in the end I doubt this will happen, so ok.

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  On 5/5/2024 at 12:11 AM, Benolympique said:

yes you have to start with 4 quotas (and deduct if they already have any that have the minimums for 100 and 400 m)! I will choose this calculation method as well

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I'm sticking to 5 because they will def take an extra. It's more probable that they have 2 reserves (as in 6) than just 4. But as you said, it's just a guess. Sometimes countries choose athletes from other races.

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I just checked how many quotas each country qualified today had on its respective 400m or 100m.
 

 

The qualification document indicates that each team can take 5 athletes on their gender relay and 4 athletes on their mixed relay (not sure if it's a new addition, I just noticed that). And athletes with individual quota MUST participate in the M and F 4x100m and 4x400m, but it doesn't say anything regarding the mixed 4x400m .

 

So I'm counting it as 5 (and 2 men and 2 women on the mixed relay), but obviously they could pick someone from 200m, 800m, 400m hurdles, etc


(FINAL AS OF DAY 1, will update tomorrow)
So apparently the first day offered 131 quotas
66 female quotas (30 on 4x100m, 32 on 4x400, 4 on the mixed relay)
65 male quotas (31 on 4x100, 26 on 4x400, 8 on the mixed relay)


Female 4x100m


:AUSAUS - no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:CANCAN- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:FRAFRA- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:GERGER- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:GBRGBR- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:NEDNED - no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:POLPOL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:USAUSA- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

Male 4x100m

 

:CANCAN- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:CHNCHN- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:FRAFRA- no men (gets 5 quotas)

:GBRGBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:ITAITA- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:JAMJAM- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

:JPNJPN- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:USAUSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

 

 

Female 4x400m

:CANCAN- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:FRAFRA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:GBRGBR- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:IRLIRL - 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:ITAITA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:NORNOR- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:POLPOL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:USAUSA- 3 women (gets 2 quotas)

 

Male 4x400m

 

:BOTBOT- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

:BELBEL- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:GBRGBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:GERGER- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:JPNJPN- 2 man (gets 3 quotas)
:ITAITA- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)

:NGRNGR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:RSARSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas) 


Mixed 4x400m

:BELBEL- 1 men + 1 woman (may get 1 male + 1 female quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:DOMDOM- 1 men + 1 woman (gets 1 male + 1 female quota)

:FRAFRA- no athlete! (may get 2 male + 2 female quota)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:IRLIRL - 1 woman (may get 2 male + 1 female quota)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:NEDNED - 1 man + 2 women (gets 1 male quota)
:NGRNGR - 1 man (may get 1 male + 2 female quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:POLPOL- 1 woman (may get 2 male + 1 female quota)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:USAUSA- 3 men + 3 women (no additional quota)

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I just made a quick count on how the Brazilian athletes are at the moment in Road to Paris

 

summary: 

20 women qualified (3 with ES, 17 ranking) + 3 or 4 probable reallocations as they are in the top3 of alternates

20men (10 with ES, 10 ranking) + 2 or 3 possible reallocations (as they are in the top5 of alternates)


WOMEN

 

100m F (56/3r) Vitória Rosa (23), Ana Carolina Azevedo (51), Lorraine Martins (56)
200m F (48/1r) Ana Carolina Azevedo (27) 
400m F (48/1r) Tiffani Marinho (37)
800m F (48/1r) Flavia Maria de Lima (40)
110mh F (40/0r) - / ... / Ketiley Batista (43, 3 alt)
400mh F (40/1r) Chayenne da Silva (25)
3000ms F (36/1r) Tatiane Raquel da Silva (26) / ... / Simone Ferraz (38, 2 alt)
HJ F (32/1r) Valdileia Martins (30)
PV F (32/1r) Juliana de Menis Campos (21)
LJ F (32/2r) Eliane Martins (23), Lissandra Maysa Campos (30) / ... / Leticia Oro Melo (33, 1 alt*)
TP F (32/1r) Gabriele Santos (14)
SP F (32/1r) Ana Caroline Silva (32) / ... / Livia Avancini (34, 2 alt)
DT F (32/1ES+1r) Izabela da Silva (14Q) + Andressa de Morais (21)
JT F (32/1r) Jucilene Sales de Lima (9)
20km F (48/2ES+1r) Viviane Lyra (14Q), Erica Sena (25Q) + Gabriela de Sousa (45)



MEN

 

100m M (56/2ES+1r) Felipe Bardi (12Q), Erik Cardoso (14Q) + Paulo André Camilo (23)
200m M (56/2r) Renan Gallina [Correa] (27), Jorge Vides (40)
400m M (48/3ES) Matheus Lima (16Q), Alison dos Santos (20Q), Lucas Carvalho (24Q)
800m M (48/0) - / ... / Eduardo Ribeiro (53, 5alt)
110mh M (40/1ES+1r) Rafael Pereira (16Q) + Eduardo Rodrigues (21) / ... / Denner Cordeiro (44, 4alt)
400mh M (40/2ES) Alison dos Santos (5Q), Matheus Lima (23Q)
HJ M (32/1r) Fernando Ferreira (19) / ... / Thiago Moura (43, 11alt)
LJ M (32/1r) Lucas Marcelino dos Santos (24) / ... / Gabriel Luiz Boza (46, 14alt)
TJ M (32/1ES) Almir dos Santos (9Q) / ... / Mateus de Sá (44, 12alt)
SP M (32/1ES+1r) Darlan Romani (6Q) + Wellington Morais (19) / ...  / Willian Dourado (40, 8alt)
DT M (32/0) - / ... / Wellinton Fernandes da Cruz Filho (40, 8t)
HT M (32/0) - / ... / Allan Wolski (40, 8 alt)
JT M (32/1r) Pedro Henrique Rodrigues (19) / ... / Luiz Mauricio da Silva (43, 11alt)
M M (80/1ES) Daniel do Nascimento (45Q)
D M (24/1r) Jose Fernando Ferreira Santana, "Balotelli" (22)
20km M (48/1ES+1r) Caio Bonfim (7Q) + Matheus Correa (39) / ... / Max Batista Gonçalves dos Santos (51, 3alt)

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