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  On 2/28/2022 at 7:31 PM, hckošice said:

 

Not sure what this actually means "through August"

 

 

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Its an American saying meaning until at least then. After that things will be decided later. 

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  On 2/28/2022 at 7:21 PM, Maxim Fastovsky said:

Is Russia (OAR) out of the paralympics?

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Not yet. The meeting is on Wednesday. The BBC said yesterday the IPC believe they cannot legally expel them but who knows what they will decide. I can see the IPC decking to expel them as then if CAS overturn it they can say we tried blame CAS. CAS’s future is at stake if they make too many unpopular decisions on this crisis.

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the National Olympic Committee (NOC) of Germany, has demanded the immediate exclusion of Russia and Belarus from international sport.

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  On 2/28/2022 at 6:41 PM, thiago_simoes said:

I'm not sure if this has been reported here, but FIG has taken action:

https://www.gymnastics.sport/site/news/displaynews.php?idNews=3439

 

Not sure if this ban is for the time being or if it affects events in the future; however, it seems likely that the rhythmic gymnastics World Challenge Cups in Russia and Belarus will not take place. 

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I will be  surprised if the Russian and Belarusian teams are allowed into the Uk for the worlds in Liverpool later this year as things stand.

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  On 2/28/2022 at 5:48 PM, Monzanator said:

Statement from Elina Svitolina who has pulled out of WTA tournament in Monterrey.

 

 

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As she is only demanding they be neutrals rather than a ban I can’t see the ITF refusing to implement her demands. 

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  On 2/28/2022 at 3:20 PM, Wumo said:

A rumour, from a source, states that FIFA will suspend all Russian national teams from its' competitions.

 

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/fifa-set-suspend-russia-internationals-source-2022-02-28/

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The BBC are now reporting it so it is 99% true. 

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  On 2/28/2022 at 2:21 PM, NMQ said:

"Recommends" is an open word

 

https://twitter.com/iocmedia/status/1498297977366102024?s=20&t=U5Ah83l--4QACcxpYcjeSg

 

 

 

 

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Governing bodies will mostly listen. Who wants to go against the IOC?

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  On 2/27/2022 at 11:53 PM, dullard said:

Australia welcomes the cancellation of the junior world champs and will boycott the short course world champs if they remain in Russia.

 

I really hope the junior world champs can be rescheduled somewhere else.

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That feels pretty likely as the IOC has ordered all events be moved out of Russia and Belarus. 

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The swimming federations of Norway, Denmark, Estonia, the Faroe Islands, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania and Sweden have released a joint statement urging Russia and Belarus to be banned from all international Aquatics events. They have also vowed to boycott the World Junior and World short course championships both due to be held in Kazan later this year

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I think it’s looking certain CAS will either be ignored or abolished if they block FIFA banning Russia? Will CAS want that? 

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  On 2/27/2022 at 10:21 AM, Agger said:

As expected,  joins  and

 

 

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So now what happens. Russia gaining a place by default means no World Cup. It’s as simple as that. 

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  On 2/27/2022 at 9:05 AM, Vektor said:

Is there any legal way to ban Russia? I mean, FIFA can't just say "we don't want you to be there", that's not how this works. As far as I know there isn't any rule that a country can be banned because it's part of an ongoing military conflict. The only way to ban Russia is to prove that their federation broke some rules, which is probably not the case. People need to realize that the system is build on the mutual understanding that you can't force countries out of sport events just because you don't like what they did outside of the world of sports, you need something more concrete than that. If we cross this bridge we will soon enter an era of sports where the Olympic boycotts of the 80s will happen again. 

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Either Russia is banned or they won’t be a World Cup. The press has said no England at the World Cup if Russia is there. France, Germany and Spain will all decide the same. Will CAS want to be responsible for cancelling the World Cup? If they do then Fifa could well simply decide to ignore CAS knowing that most of the world would be behind them. Fifa might well decide moving from Switzerland is worth it if it means the World Cup is not cancelled.

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  On 2/27/2022 at 1:42 AM, Maxim Fastovsky said:

Yea but if they kick Russia out then everyone should.  No OAR in the paralympic games.   No tennis players.  No Russians in the diamond league.  Nothing.   And athletes don't deserve this. 

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There has been demands for all of those.

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  On 2/27/2022 at 1:12 AM, Maxim Fastovsky said:

They should just let it play out.  Russia is worse then Poland, Sweden or Czech Republic.   Play the games elsewhere and Russia will just lose

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Those countries will rightly not  u turn now. Cosmdeirng how unpopular FIFA is I really don’t think it’s worth it from them for the world to think they pro Russia at a time like this. If they not careful FIFA could lose many members permanently.

 

But FIFA can always sink lower.

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  On 2/26/2022 at 11:58 PM, intoronto said:

Maybe the Whole World Cup will be cancelled!!!!!11

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That is looking quite possible.

 

Through I am sure CAS are not crazy enough to risk their own abolition. And if they do order Fifa to make Russia appear at the World Cup they would be a good as doing that. CAS are already deeply unpopular. 

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  On 2/26/2022 at 10:22 PM, Vektor said:

It doesn't matter what's right or wrong, there's literally no precedent for a Russian DSQ since the two World Wars. CAS will rule in favor of Russia even if FIFA tries to drop them. 

 

Personally I think the decision from Poland and Sweden to forfeit their matches is foolish. They are throwing their chance away to qualify for the World Cup and for what? Take a hint from us: we played against the Soviet Union in 1956 at the Olympic Games, we didn't forfeit our matches. And the water polo match that we won against them is far more legendary than what a forfeit match would have been. 

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The majority of the world will withdraw from the World Cup if the Russians there. If CAS allow Russia to compete they as good as cancelling the World Cup.

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  On 2/26/2022 at 5:40 PM, LDOG said:

To be clear, if I had any decision power on this I would: 

 

1. Not allow Russia to host this play-off, for security reasons. 

 

2. Allow participation of Russian team since their coaching staff and players have not done anything wrong.  

 

3. Deny the russian football federation the prize money from WC participation (should they qualify) until their government ceases hostilities.

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Nobody would play the Russian team. Except Belarus. Not even the countries who are somewhat supportive of Russia would do it. 

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  On 2/26/2022 at 5:26 PM, LDOG said:

FIFA would drop Poland, Sweden and Czechia in a heartbeat if they have to.  

 

Obviously their only concern is to not lose teams like England, Spain, France, Germany.

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It’s been reported that the English FA are to tell FIFA to expel Russia. And there is growing demand for England tk withdraw from the world cup if Russia is there. 

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  On 2/26/2022 at 4:29 PM, Olympian1010 said:

AP reports that Sweden will also refuse to play Russia (no matter where the match is held).

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Going to get very messy. There is speculation that Fifa believe that CAS will not allow any suspension of Russia. 

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Poland will forfeit their match against Russia. They are writing to Sweden and Czech Republic to present a common position to Fifa. Surely Fifa can’t give Russia a bye. Unless they want other countries to withdraw from the World Cup in protest. 

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  On 2/18/2022 at 3:25 PM, Olympian1010 said:

10 years 

 

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First ever summer games striped medal for GB also confirmed. Apparently it’s already been to CAS which means CAS are now doing hearings on known cases without people being aware.

 

Menawhile Okabare has not been to cas yet but she has 30 days to decide if she will. Wouldn’t be surprised if she does most dopers do nowadays.

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Dick Pouhd calls for Russia be totally banned from the next three games. Anyone opposes it?

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  On 2/11/2022 at 2:54 PM, Canada4thewin said:

When are they going to give a decision? It seems to take forever.

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A long time. 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/winter-olympics/60343513
 

Very clear here that people will demand total expulsion. Do the IOC really want to start a war with their athletes to protect to Russia?