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By copravolley · Posted
Italy, on the other hand, was very unlucky with 14 bronze medals, as it really could have been 1-2 more silver medals. With 30 medals, Italy is in third place on overall medal standings, just behind the USA with 31, but the number of bronze medals was the deciding factor, and I personally had a bad feeling for the past 2 or 3 days that we wouldn't finish 3 due to the low number of silver medals And it happened. It only took Sighel to finish second with the relay yesterday, or di Stefano to be in the mass start final today (he was right behind Thrup in 1/2), and the mass start final to turn out differently. -
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By BMOlympics · Posted
No worries Copra, but accusing the Netherlands or Norway of using performance enhancers or whatever like the first post I quoted is simply not a realistic accusation to make. It's still a historic performance from Italy, and I feel for you in the sense that not 1 or 2 of those bronze medals were a silver instead. The thing is, Italy has all the potential to get 10+ golds in the future if they have 1 or 2 talented alpine skiiers for example, I'm convinced that you will experience a top 3 performance for Italy once in your lifetime -
By De_Gambassi · Posted
Have you not seen our great recent artistic performance in bobsleigh ? We basically never win anything on ice except one figure skating medal from time to time and one historic bobsleigh back in 1998. Definitely, our only hope to win medals (plural) on ice relies on speed skating. We have the athletes thanks to roller, and a new program that has started 2 years ago under a new federation. Performances in Milan were very encouraging. -
By Grassmarket · Posted
I seem to remember ski jumping & nordic combined events being run in conditions that would not be acceptable at World Cups. -
By copravolley · Posted
Nothing, it's just that the Netherlands took advantage of their historic opportunity here, and Italy lost it. We won't have a chance of finishing 3 in the medal table in future editions for the next 100 years, maybe even longer. Canada, Germany will wake up, Russia will return, France will be at home, etc. I simply regret the missed opportunity. Forgive me if I offended you or your country. -
Our results in biathlon were definitely incredible don't get me wrong, I just wish we'd have more variety of disciplines providing us medals :') -
By BMOlympics · Posted
Lol what a nonsense argument to make. That's never what I claimed, and in the alltime medal standings Italy is even lower than the Netherlands so if you're trying to argue Italy is a powerhouse, then that's an invalid argument to make. Besides, what else would you expect The Netherlands to do? There is no snow and there are no mountains which structurally eliminates 70% of medal options with a very rare exception every few games, and there's simply no figure skating or ice hockey culture over here which eliminates another 10% of options. We're simply maximising all our medal possibilities, resulting in consistent performances the last few Olympic cycles. -
By Monzanator · Posted
Lotholz had Polish commentators screaming. Drifting like crazy and massive time loss. -
I mostly agree, though I dispute your last point. Apart from Velzeboer’s 500m, the Dutch weren't favorites in their winning events; they simply had everything break in their favor. And in long track the women’s 1,500m was won by 0.06 seconds, and the men’s mass start succeeded only because the field, except for Thorup, failed to counter the most predictable Dutch strategy possible. Furthermore, top 8 data from Milan proves speed skating is highly global, certainly no less than i.e. XC skiing or biathlon that also have 23 events combined. The competition is there, the Dutch skaters just seized the margins. Short track (14 countries in 9 events, of which 8 countries winning at least 1 medal): Europe: North-America: Asia: Long track (18 countries in 14 events, of which 10 countries winning at least 1 medal): Europe: Asia: North-America: Compared to other sports with many events: Cross-country skiing (13 countries in 11 events (so far), of which 8 countries winning at least 1 medal): Europe: Asia: no top 8 spots North-America: Biathlon (12 countries in 11 events, of which 8 countries winning at least 1 medal [all European]): Europe: Asia: no top 8 spots North-America:
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