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  On 8/12/2021 at 5:58 PM, NearPup said:

I guess now Canadian media will become obsessed with Jacobs, only for Blake or Rodney to test positive :toast:

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The Canadian media are still dealing with the shadow of Ben Johnson in Seoul 1988 to point the finger at others in the sprinting world. 

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  On 8/12/2021 at 5:39 PM, heywoodu said:

Waaaaaait a minute. This ain't over yet!

 

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Wouldn’t be shocked to see even further changes after the likely British DQ.

 

The 2017 worlds resting will be fun. After GB is a team featuring Gatlin and Coleman. 

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  On 8/12/2021 at 5:33 PM, heywoodu said:

Whoopsie!

 

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I presume then even CJ didn’t know until after then he had tested positive. 
 

he would have been tested on Friday after the race, No mention of tests from earlier in the games and if they were also positive or negative. 
 

 

I wonder if he will seek to use a contamination or poisoning defence - it seems to be the go to defence in Athletics atm. 

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On the BBC daily highlights show just now they ignored that Greenbank chirped up about doping, giving the impression only Murphy commented on the issue but then defended Rylov by saying he has been at the top of field since Rio and said that while it looked like Murphy was not directly accusing Rylov (that’s a stretch) he was still being unfair on him, 

 

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  On 7/30/2021 at 4:45 PM, Monzanator said:

 

Those trials would end in out of court settlements anyway especially if an athlete who sues USTF would be suspended during a course of such trial (which makes sense since USTF would be treated as employer - isn't that what Jess Varnish argued vs British Cycling in the UK trial?).

 

Plus Nike (or any other sponsor) would probably pay enough money under the table for those #5 & #6 relay hopefuls so they don't file a case and block Richardson's place in the relay. Most things in USA usually come down to money in the end.

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Not sure they would. In the UK Jess Varnish got direct funding from UK Cycling - in the USA athletes are not paid by the governing bodies ,

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  On 7/30/2021 at 4:37 PM, Monzanator said:

Who can stop USTF from changing their OWN rules? The IOC? :p This is a complete technicality some lawyers make money from but casual sport fans deserve better than that. Whenever there's a will, there's a way.

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The American Courts. The Main reason  USTF has that trial format is because America is litigation mad and it would all end in frequent court battles. 

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  On 7/30/2021 at 4:33 PM, Monzanator said:

 

USTF selected Gatlin to compete so they share the blame. The "it's all IOC fault" excuse doesnt hold ground. Somehow USTF didn't let Sha'Cari Richardson to compete in Tokyo (in the relay) so it shows they can shut someone down IF they only want to.

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They couldn’t select her for the relay without breaking their own rules that say the only those who run in the final can be selected. As her result was annulled she didn’t. 

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  On 7/30/2021 at 4:26 PM, Monzanator said:

 

Lily King doesn't run the USTF. USA speaks high morals when accusing Russians of all the doping evil yet they allow Justin Gatlin to compete and enjoy Nike sponsorship like he's a perfect role model or something. This is a hypocrisy of the highest order. I will always point this out and indicate how two-faced Ryan Murphy's sound like now.

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USTF couldn’t legally ban Gatlin even if they tried. He would simply sue and win - CAS has made it clear governing bodies cannot ban athletes if they doping bans have expired. Blame CAS and The IOC because the IOC are only people who could put in place a rule that sees a lifetime ban from competiting for all dopers and get CAS to agree to it. 

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  On 7/30/2021 at 3:48 PM, Monzanator said:

But the issue here is why Russia as a country should be banned from these Games not whether Efirmova should start. And Efimova is so irrelevant these days I presume even US swimmers don't mind she's here. After all, she is not taking away any medals from them :p

 

Since Justin Gatlin was allowed to take part in Rio Games as a repeated doping offender and only a hamstring injury prevented him from making Tokyo I feel like Ryan Murphy is barking at the wrong tree to begin with.

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Lily King famously condemned Gatlin as well. 
 

And Russia should be banned because they committed state sponsored doping and every whistleblower and Anti doping organisation in the world recommend  a total ban - but the IOC and CAS disagree with that.
 

Efirmova appeared in the relay and while it is unlikely they will beat the Americans in that one things might explode if they do in any of the three finals. 

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  On 7/30/2021 at 3:17 PM, Monzanator said:

When Americans don't win gold medals they always have to blame outside influence, not themselves.

 

Sun Yang isn't here yet they don't blame Dean & Scott for taking away their medals at this distance?

 

Efimova isn't taking away medals so now it's Rylov who has to be on doping, right? How convenient :rolleyes:

 

Or maybe they should blame Hafnaoui who also had the nerve to take away one of the US gold medals in 400 free. He must be on doping, right?

 

America only loses when someone else is cheating. Ho-hum! Someone needs to tell Ryan Murphy he's not Ryan Lochte :p

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Efimova has tested positive twice so she is well and truly proved to be a doper. 

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  On 7/30/2021 at 1:08 PM, Monzanator said:

It's too late to cry over spilled milk now. IOC made their decision and Daily Mail won't change it. WA is run by a :GBR chief no less and even Coe didn't have Russia thrown out of the athletics part either which is kinda hilarious given how British press wants them out. Dare I say Coe is more powerful than UK media too? :p

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There are only 10 Russian Athletes. He hasn’t let in the relay teams and everyone else. And he clearly does hate Russia rather than many sports governing bodies who still love them.

 

 

https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/ryan-murphys-pointed-criticism-of-russian-olympic-committee-was-warranted/

 

 

A good defence of Murphy and his actions. 

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