Only 7 athletes within 1 second after day 1. Very selective track. In 2018, we had 13 athletes within 1 second after run 4.
Kindl and Ludwig are practically even, will be very very close tomorrow.
ExpandBut in this case the selection is consistent with the rankings posted here. Would it be also possible for
for example to select Eitberger or any other competitor who is lower in the ranking list?
Yes, the qualification criteria clearly state that the quota places are allocated to the NOC, not an athlete (https://www.fil-luge.org/cdn/uploads/beijing-2022-qualification-system-luge-v3-0-1.pdf)
ExpandMen's Doubles Quotas:
2 quotas (4 athletes):
Austria
Germany
Latvia
ROC
1 quota (2 athletes):
Canada
China
Czechia
Italy
Poland
Romania
Slovakia
South Korea
Ukraine
United States
Final standings below
Athlete | NOC | Best | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | Points | |
1 | Steu/Koller | AUT | 100 | 100 | 85 | 85 | 370 |
1 | Eggert/Benecken | GER | 100 | 100 | 85 | 85 | 370 |
3 | Sics/Sics | LAT | 100 | 85 | 85 | 70 | 340 |
4 | Wendl/Arlt | GER | 100 | 70 | 70 | 60 | 300 |
5 | Bogdanov/Prokhorov | RUS | 100 | 85 | 50 | 46 | 281 |
6 | Bots/Plume | LAT | 70 | 60 | 55 | 55 | 240 |
7 | Rieder/Kainzwaldner | ITA | 70 | 60 | 60 | 46 | 236 |
8 | Mueller/Frauscher | AUT | 70 | 60 | 50 | 42 | 222 |
9 | Denisev/Antonov | RUS | 55 | 55 | 46 | 42 | 198 |
10 | Gatt/Schoepf | AUT | 55 | 50 | 46 | 19 | 170 |
11 | Rieder/Rastner | ITA | 50 | 46 | 36 | 36 | 168 |
12 | Geueke/Gamm | GER | 50 | 50 | 34 | 32 | 166 |
13 | Nagler/Malleier | ITA | 50 | 39 | 36 | 34 | 159 |
14 | Maltcev/Khalilov | RUS | 46 | 46 | 32 | 30 | 154 |
15 | Chmielewski/Kowalewski | POL | 39 | 39 | 39 | 34 | 151 |
16 | Walker/Snith | CAN | 42 | 34 | 30 | 28 | 134 |
17 | Wardrope/Zajanski | CAN | 42 | 30 | 28 | 28 | 128 |
18 | Mazdzer/Terdiman | USA | 34 | 30 | 30 | 26 | 120 |
19 | Park/Cho | KOR | 32 | 30 | 28 | 25 | 115 |
20 | Vavercak/Zmij | SVK | 28 | 24 | 23 | 22 | 97 |
20 | Stakhiv/Lysetskyi | UKR | 26 | 24 | 24 | 23 | 97 |
20 | Di Gregorio/Hollander | USA | 25 | 25 | 24 | 23 | 97 |
23 | Gitlan/Serban | ROU | 26 | 26 | 22 | 22 | 96 |
24 | Kellogg/Segger | USA | 32 | 22 | 18 | 17 | 89 |
25 | Vejdelek/Pekny | CZE | 23 | 22 | 21 | 20 | 86 |
26 | Hoi/Levkovych | UKR | 21 | 21 | 20 | 19 | 81 |
27 | Mykyievych/Babura | UKR | 22 | 19 | 16 | 16 | 73 |
28 | Siscanu/Oprea | MDA | 16 | 16 | 15 | 14 | 61 |
29 | Huang/Peng | CHN | 15 | 15 | 14 | 14 | 58 |
30 | Kashkin/Korshunov | RUS | 42 | 42 |
ITA with three doubles among the TOP 13, but only allowed to send only 1 double. That qualification system is a shame.
ExpandLoch for some reason leaves his sled behind on the outrun?
Let me guess: He wants to hide those small rockets under the sled that were secretly installed by the Germans?
But yeah.. poor run. Hopefully, he won't crack on another mistake in the deciding run at a major event.
ExpandLet's just say the mathematical odds of Germans being drawn 1st and 2nd were at an astonishing 48 to 720 (roughly 6-7%).
Does the seeded group really consist of only 6 doubles? I thought it were 12 sleds (in that case the probability for two certain German sleds being drawn at 1st and 2nd starting position would be only 1,5% ;-) ) By the way, the starting order is drawn in public (so the rules say at least)
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If there have to be exceptions, a better option would be to alternate which country has two races in one season. Then again, it's not going to be any other country than Germany, because sports need money to stay alive and that's coming from Germany.
Yep, that is the point. If you take a look at this list of official FIL sponsors, you can only find German companies and firms: https://www.fil-luge.org/en/about-fil/partners-and-sponsors
Exception's a bakery from South Tyrol which only sponsors Natural Track Luge.
If we are honest, nobody with the exception of Germany, Austria and Italy gives a flying fuck about luge. There will be no money from the US or Asia spent for Luge.
In general, I totally agree that it is desirable to have more World Cups outside of Germany. But that simply won't happen, at least not to that extent you wish for. Viessmann and BMW, who kept Luge alive over the past decades, are not interested in having half of the races at night times in Germany. Moreover, Calgary is currently closed indefinetely.
Btw: It is really expensive to keep a track in shape over the years. Best example is the beautiful track in Cesana Pariol which had to be shut down for economic reasons.
Edited by LowerSaxonyAs only one Russian woman is eligible, Argentina seems to have received a reallocation quota in the women's event: https://www.eleco.com.ar/deportes/ravenna-tambien-ira-a-corea/
The other should have gone to Kazakhstan.
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It's borderline fair for me. While rules allow it, I'd prefer to have everyone using the same sleds. Like in Laser sailing, where everyone uses the same boat, meaning the best sailor will always win.
As said, the same then applies to all Skiing disciplines where every athletes had to start with skiers waxed by the same people, Track cycling etc. To equal preconditions and make the athlete with the best talent win, every athlete should then have the same coaches as they provide know how and tactics. I know, that this is unrealistic. But my point is: The Germans do not only spend lots of money in sliding sports (other countries do that, too), they have a lot of know-how among coaches and try to bring lots of youth athletes to sliding sports - from ALL of this, the medals result.
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Nope, just ridiculous technological advantage. Fair or not.
Of course, technological advantages are a main reason for success in all sliding sports. It's a matter of money and know-how. Same is true btw for waxing techniques in Cross-country and Biathlon. This might be unfair as countries start with unequal preconditions. But it is not unfair in terms of "against the rules".
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Absolutely. The Luge medal table does not reflect the season adequately. The team relay shows that the Austrians are very close to the best Germans in all events. E.g. Ludwig won because he were 0.05 sec quicker in every run than Kindl.
Btw Nathalie Geisenberger is now the most successful German Winter Olympic athlete in terms of Gold medals (6-0-1) right before Tobias Wendl and Tobias Arlt (6-0-0), all three surpassing Claudia Pechstein (5-2-2).
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