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  On 2/10/2022 at 2:35 PM, NearPup said:

It's now been 12 years since :GER lost a luge race at the Olympic without crashing or making a major mistake, but that was close.

 

Feels like :AUT is unlucky to not win any of the events here given the season they've had.

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Absolutely. The Luge medal table does not reflect the season adequately. The team relay shows that the Austrians are very close to the best Germans in all events. E.g. Ludwig won because he were 0.05 sec quicker in every run than Kindl.

 

Btw Nathalie Geisenberger is now the most successful German Winter Olympic athlete in terms of Gold medals (6-0-1) right before Tobias Wendl and Tobias Arlt (6-0-0), all three surpassing Claudia Pechstein (5-2-2).

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  On 1/9/2022 at 2:44 PM, pdr4332 said:

But in this case the selection is consistent with the rankings posted here. Would it be also possible for :GER for example to select Eitberger or any other competitor who is lower in the ranking list?

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Yes, the qualification criteria clearly state that the quota places are allocated to the NOC, not an athlete (https://www.fil-luge.org/cdn/uploads/beijing-2022-qualification-system-luge-v3-0-1.pdf)

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  Athlete NOC Best 2nd 3rd 4th Points
1 Steu/Koller AUT 100 100 85 85 370
1 Eggert/Benecken GER 100 100 85 85 370
3 Sics/Sics LAT 100 85 85 70 340
4 Wendl/Arlt GER 100 70 70 60 300
5 Bogdanov/Prokhorov RUS 100 85 50 46 281
6 Bots/Plume LAT 70 60 55 55 240
7 Rieder/Kainzwaldner ITA 70 60 60 46 236
8 Mueller/Frauscher AUT 70 60 50 42 222
9 Denisev/Antonov RUS 55 55 46 42 198
10 Gatt/Schoepf AUT 55 50 46 19 170
11 Rieder/Rastner ITA 50 46 36 36 168
12 Geueke/Gamm GER 50 50 34 32 166
13 Nagler/Malleier ITA 50 39 36 34 159
14 Maltcev/Khalilov RUS 46 46 32 30 154
15 Chmielewski/Kowalewski POL 39 39 39 34 151
16 Walker/Snith CAN 42 34 30 28 134
17 Wardrope/Zajanski CAN 42 30 28 28 128
18 Mazdzer/Terdiman USA 34 30 30 26 120
19 Park/Cho KOR 32 30 28 25 115
20 Vavercak/Zmij SVK 28 24 23 22 97
20 Stakhiv/Lysetskyi UKR 26 24 24 23 97
20 Di Gregorio/Hollander USA 25 25 24 23 97
23 Gitlan/Serban ROU 26 26 22 22 96
24 Kellogg/Segger USA 32 22 18 17 89
25 Vejdelek/Pekny CZE 23 22 21 20 86
26 Hoi/Levkovych UKR 21 21 20 19 81
27 Mykyievych/Babura UKR 22 19 16 16 73
28 Siscanu/Oprea MDA 16 16 15 14 61
29 Huang/Peng CHN 15 15 14 14 58
30 Kashkin/Korshunov RUS 42       42

ITA with three doubles among the TOP 13, but only allowed to send only 1 double. That qualification system is a shame.

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Luge FIL World Championships 2021
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  On 1/30/2021 at 2:53 PM, dcro said:

Loch for some reason leaves his sled behind on the outrun?

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Let me guess: He wants to hide those small rockets under the sled that were secretly installed by the Germans? :p

But yeah.. poor run. Hopefully, he won't crack on another mistake in the deciding run at a major event.

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Luge FIL World Championships 2021
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  On 1/30/2021 at 9:29 AM, dcro said:

Let's just say the mathematical odds of Germans being drawn 1st and 2nd were at an astonishing 48 to 720 (roughly 6-7%). :whistle:

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Does the seeded group really consist of only 6 doubles? I thought it were 12 sleds (in that case the probability for two certain German sleds being drawn at 1st and 2nd starting position would be only 1,5% ;-) ) By the way, the starting order is drawn in public (so the rules say at least)

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Luge 2019 - 2020 Discussion Thread
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  On 2/28/2020 at 10:13 PM, heywoodu said:

 

If there have to be exceptions, a better option would be to alternate which country has two races in one season. Then again, it's not going to be any other country than Germany, because sports need money to stay alive and that's coming from Germany.

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Yep, that is the point. If you take a look at this list of official FIL sponsors, you can only find German companies and firms: https://www.fil-luge.org/en/about-fil/partners-and-sponsors

Exception's a bakery from South Tyrol which only sponsors Natural Track Luge.

 

If we are honest, nobody with the exception of Germany, Austria and Italy gives a flying fuck about luge. There will be no money from the US or Asia spent for Luge.

In general, I totally agree that it is desirable to have more World Cups outside of Germany. But that simply won't happen, at least not to that extent you wish for. Viessmann and BMW, who kept Luge alive over the past decades, are not interested in having half of the races at night times in Germany. Moreover, Calgary is currently closed indefinetely.

 

Btw: It is really expensive to keep a track in shape over the years. Best example is the beautiful track in Cesana Pariol which had to be shut down for economic reasons.

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Luge 2019 - 2020 Discussion Thread
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  On 10/22/2019 at 8:59 PM, heywoodu said:

I'm hoping Eitberger can challenge her and possibly win though

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That'll be hard as she is also pregnant ;)

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Luge at the Winter Olympic Games 2018
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  On 1/28/2018 at 11:13 AM, dcro said:

 

Kazakhstan already received reallocation in the men's event, as Slovenia declined.

 

This should leave Turkey as the likely qualifier (since Sweden and France should decline).

 

 

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You're right, didn't think about that.

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Luge at the Winter Olympic Games 2018
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As only one Russian woman is eligible, Argentina seems to have received a reallocation quota in the women's event: https://www.eleco.com.ar/deportes/ravenna-tambien-ira-a-corea/

The other should have gone to Kazakhstan.

 

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Luge FIL World Cup 2017 - 2018
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  On 1/27/2018 at 10:34 AM, dcro said:

 

It's borderline fair for me. While rules allow it, I'd prefer to have everyone using the same sleds. Like in Laser sailing, where everyone uses the same boat, meaning the best sailor will always win.

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As said, the same then applies to all Skiing disciplines where every athletes had to start with skiers waxed by the same people, Track cycling etc. To equal preconditions and make the athlete with the best talent win, every athlete should then have the same coaches as they provide know how and tactics. I know, that this is unrealistic. But my point is: The Germans do not only spend lots of money in sliding sports (other countries do that, too), they have a lot of know-how among coaches and try to bring lots of youth athletes to sliding sports - from ALL of this, the medals result.

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Luge FIL World Cup 2017 - 2018
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  On 1/27/2018 at 10:27 AM, dcro said:

 

Nope, just ridiculous technological advantage. Fair or not.

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Of course, technological advantages are a main reason for success in all sliding sports. It's a matter of money and know-how. Same is true btw for waxing techniques in Cross-country and Biathlon. This might be unfair as countries start with unequal preconditions. But it is not unfair in terms of "against the rules".

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Luge FIL World Cup 2017 - 2018
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  On 1/27/2018 at 9:44 AM, dcro said:

Eggert/Benecken hitting walls left and right, and still not losing time.

 

Not shady at all...

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German conspiracy or what's your intention?

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