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Zambia has form, in Tokyo they lost to the Dutch tem by 10 - 3.

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You’ve missed Justin Kluivert in the centre.

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Not unimportant to mention that Ajax has two fewer matches than most of the other teams.

 

Jong Ajax is also bottom of the Eerste Divisie (the 2nd highest division).

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  On 10/17/2023 at 2:34 PM, rafalgorka said:

How do you know he was a lonely gunman? You believe noone helps such guys, they are lone wolves???

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Fair point, I don’t know. But then, neither do you know for certain that’s he’s not and he has had help. 

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Why should the security level be raised for a match when there are no evident signs of a threat or of hooliganism? Even if it has been raised, would that have prevented an attack of this kind?
 

Most large cities have a significant amount of visitors, both foreign and domestic, every day. Football fans are perhaps more recognizable, especially when they are wearing their team jersey,so are a bit more vulnerable. Unfortunately people get killed by violence, often unprovoked by the victims. It happens in Western Europe, but also for instance in India. 
 

Of course an inquiry must be held and where possible lessons must be learned.
 

 

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  On 10/16/2023 at 9:41 PM, Roamingrover86 said:

The shooter is from ISIS as per some reports. How this can happen in an European city & on football fans is beyond belief. What is Europe turning into? Complete failure from the Belgian police. Thoughts are with the victims family & all Swedish fans stuck inside the stadium fearing for their safety!
Complete lawlessness. 

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Can you explain what exactly the Belgian police did wrong or failed to do? How do you stop a lonely gunman from shooting people?

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The most probable explanation is (some) Polish fans/players misbehaving and the Dutch police subsequently overreacting.  Both have been known to happen. But of course it’s always easier to take a black and white view and assume that your side is lilywhite and the other side is entirely to blame. 

The idea that the Dutch police either know or care what parties form the Polish government, which policies those government implements and which individuals either support or oppose that government and their behavior was somehow guided by that knowledge is rather preposterous. This could have happened with any group of supporters from any country, even our own. 

An independent inquiry will be held and the truth will be ascertained and blame will be apportioned. History shows that these inquiries are far from a whitewash and tend to be very critical of police behavior. 
 

 

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My point is that, in the context of possible Olympic qualification, it could be in the interest of either Scottish or English players to achieve a certain result in the matches between those two countries to keep their chances of participation in TeamGB in Paris alive. I see they meet at the last match day, with potentially everything still to play for. 

 

I hope and expect nothing untoward happens, but there is the potential for serious questions.

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England and Scotland is the same group, while Olympic qualification is at stake, is a bit strange.

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Amen to that…

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  On 8/21/2023 at 5:07 PM, OlympicsFan said:

I don't understand the outrage. Do we know that the player didn't want it/have a problem with it? Why do people feel the need to feel insulted on behalf of others? If she has a problem with it, she should express it/speak out herself.

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Yes, we know, because she released a statement to that effect.