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  On 7/7/2024 at 9:51 PM, BruT06 said:

Matej Nevešćanin is from Croatia. According to wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diving_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics_–_Qualification#Qualification_summary, it seems that there are 136 athletes and 140 quotas, so 4 more athletes should be invited. I am not sure which criteria it is and does Nevešćanin has any chances or it goes 1 per discipline or gender equal? IDK 

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Oops, thanks!

 

I saw 2 differences from my table to the wikipedia, but both end up with 136 athletes.

They have 9 athletes from Ukraine, but according to our Ukrainian friend here we have 8.

And they are giving 3 athletes to PRK, when they are still probably with 4, but can double-up one of them.

I think 136 is the "limit" according to this https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Documents/Olympic-Games/Paris-2024/Paris2024-QS-FINA-Diving.pdf

 

It doesn't have to be necessarily 50-50 split, so I'm not sure if the PRK quota would go to USA man in M10 or a New Zealand woman in W10.

For Matej Nevešćanin I think it would be necessary to have 4 or 5 male quotas being rejected, not sure if it will happen.

 

 

 

Edited July 8, 2024 by Pasolini

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Those are the top28 that were not yet named or called... any chance for them?

Only 2 women (Canada and New Zealand).

 

I think if North Korea doubles 1 athlete, Kate Miller could get in, right? 

Edit: just realized that Australia already have 2 quotas on M10
Edit2: I think as Kate Miller has won a quota on Syncro she also has a quota on individual

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Has Japan and North Korea have already named their squads

I think Italy will be this one, right https://parigi2024.coni.it/en/sports/disciplina/11:Diving.html

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  On 7/7/2024 at 12:25 PM, avlar said:

Yes, he is 14 years old and is a reserve for 10m.

 

Sereda/Boliukh - M 10m

Luskun/Bailo - W 10m

Kolodiy/Konovalov - M 3m

Kesar/Pysmenska - W 3m

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Someone on wikipedia got it wrong then. they included Mark Hrytsenko
Kirill Boliukh

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I wonder how official is that from Italy

https://parigi2024.coni.it/it/discipline/disciplina/11:Tuffi.html

it only says when they qualified, but it implies they will also go to PAris

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  On 6/18/2024 at 3:34 PM, Josh said:

What about a second quota in women’s 10m?

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Kate Miller was 25th, so she was just below the table I posted. Many reallocations need to happen, but still possible

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  On 6/18/2024 at 2:52 PM, mrv86 said:

Canada is getting closer to a second quota in 3m women if USA doubles in synchro and individual and Ukraine confirms one of its synchro divers will also start in individuals.

 

Plus, there’s some extra places if either New Zealand and Norway reject their reallocations.

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Why would Canada get a second quota in 3m, since Pamela Ware was 25th at the Worlds? She was not eligible because she got the first quota.

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I thought I had sent the message here, but sent on the "Diving at Paris" topic

 

So far we have 5 handbacks by GBR, 3 by CAN, 2 by AUS, 5 by MEX, 1 by FRA, 2 by GER and now 6 by CHN, making it 24 new quotas.

 

We had 7 finalists above the 136 quotas and 18 semifinalists, so now we are only 1 handback away to all semifinalists being confirmed (in PT, sorry):

 

13	Japão	JPN	KANETO Rin	Plataforma 10m feminino
13	República Domicana	DOM	Jonathan RUVALCABA	Trampolim 3m masculino
13	Colômbia	COL	Sebastian VILLA CASTANEDA	Plataforma 10m masculino
14	Jamaica	JAM	Yona KNIGHT-WISDOM	Trampolim 3m masculino
14	Coreia do Norte	PRK	IM Yong Myong	Plataforma 10m masculino
15	Porto Rico	PUR	Maycey Adrianne VIETA	Plataforma 10m feminino
15	Coreia do Sul	KOR	YI Jaegyeong	Trampolim 3m masculino
15	Alemanha	GER	Saskia OETTINGHAUS	trampolim 3m feminino
15	Itália	ITA	Andreas Sargent LARSEN	Plataforma 10m masculino
16	Coreia do Sul	KOR	KIM Nahyun	Plataforma 10m feminino
16	Cuba	CUB	Prisis RUIZ	trampolim 3m feminino
16	Itália	ITA	Riccardo GIOVANNINI	Plataforma 10m masculino
17	Ucrânia	UKR	Sofiia LYSKUN	Plataforma 10m feminino
17	Irlanda	IRL	Jake PASSMORE	Trampolim 3m masculino
17	Espanha	ESP	Maria Papworth-Burrel	trampolim 3m feminino
17	Áustria	AUT	Anton KNOLL	Plataforma 10m masculino
18	Itália	ITA	Maia BIGINELLI	Plataforma 10m feminino
18	Coreia do Sul	KOR	SHIN Jungwi	Plataforma 10m masculino

 

I'm not really sure if we would go down the line. According to who won the quota, PRK can reallocate 1 and ITA, UKR and USA could still reallocate a couple and those are the top24:

 

19	Noruega	NOR	Helle Tuxen	Trampolim 3m feminino
19	Cuba	CUB	Anisley GARCIA NAVARRO	Plataforma 10m feminino
19	Japão	JPN	SUYAMA Haruki	Trampolim 3m masculino
19	Estados Unidos	USA	Joshua HEDBERG	Plataforma 10m masculino
20	Estados Unidos	USA	Katrina YOUNG	Plataforma 10m feminino
20	Porto Rico	PUR	Emanuel VASQUEZ	Plataforma 10m masculino
21	Nova Zelândia	NZL	Elizabeth Roussel	Trampolim 3m feminino
21	Letônia	LAT	Dzeja Denalja PATRIKA	Plataforma 10m feminino
21	Austrália	AUS	Jaxon BOWSHIRE	Plataforma 10m masculino
22	México	MEX	Alejandra Estudillo	Trampolim 3m feminino
22	República Domicana	DOM	Victoria GARZA	Plataforma 10m feminino
22	República Domicana	DOM	Frandiel GOMEZ	Trampolim 3m masculino
22	Ucrânia	UKR	Yevhen NAUMENKO	Plataforma 10m masculino
23	Malásia	MAS	Tze Liang OOI	Trampolim 3m masculino
23	Espanha	ESP	Jorge RODRIGUEZ LEDESMA	Plataforma 10m masculino
24	Malásia	MAS	Nur Dhabitah Sabri	TRampolim 3m feminino
24	Países Baixos	NED	Matej NEVESCANIN	Trampolim 3m masculino
24	Alemanha	GER	Jaden EIKERMAN	Plataforma 10m masculino

 

 

(Edited because just realized had forgotten to ass women's 3m to the table from 19-24)

 

 

 

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  On 6/18/2024 at 2:52 PM, mrv86 said:

Canada is getting closer to a second quota in 3m women if USA doubles in synchro and individual and Ukraine confirms one of its synchro divers will also start in individuals.

 

Plus, there’s some extra places if either New Zealand and Norway reject their reallocations.

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Oh no!!! Is there any indication that Norway would reject the quota?

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  On 6/17/2024 at 11:59 AM, mpjmcevoy said:

S0 far we have 5 handbacks by GBR, 3 by CAN and now 2 by AUS

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Also 5 by MEX, 1 by FRA, 1 by AUS, 2 by GER (which curiously went to another German, Saskia OETTINGHAUS).

 

So, by my calculations all 15th and 2 from 16th are in. Only 1 reallocation needed to complete the top16 (I have not considered any form of tiebreak)
 

13	JPN	KANETO Rin
13	DOM	Jonathan RUVALCABA
13	COL	Sebastian VILLA CASTANEDA
14	JAM	Yona KNIGHT-WISDOM
14	PRK	IM Yong Myong
15	PUR	Maycey Adrianne VIETA
15	KOR	YI Jaegyeong
15	GER	Saskia OETTINGHAUS
15	ITA	Andreas Sargent LARSEN
16	KOR	KIM Nahyun
16	CUB	Prisis RUIZ
16	ITA	Riccardo GIOVANNINI

6 or 7 more handbacks and all semifinalists are in (considering that Sofia LYSKUN from Ukraine was 17th and could also be a handback)

 

17	UKR	Sofiia LYSKUN
17	IRL	Jake PASSMORE
17	ESP	Maria Papworth-Burrel
17	AUT	Anton KNOLL
18	ITA	Maia BIGINELLI
18	KOR	SHIN Jungwi

 

And I'm not really sure if we would go down the road, but here are all those who finished on the top28 at the WC without a quota

 

19	CUB	Anisley GARCIA NAVARRO
19	JPN	SUYAMA Haruki
19	USA	Joshua HEDBERG
20	USA	Katrina YOUNG
20	PUR	Emanuel VASQUEZ
21	LAT	Dzeja Denalja PATRIKA
21	AUS	Jaxon BOWSHIRE
22	DOM	Victoria GARZA
22	DOM	Frandiel GOMEZ
22	UKR	Yevhen NAUMENKO
23	MAS	Tze Liang OOI
23	ESP	Jorge RODRIGUEZ LEDESMA
24	NED	Matej NEVESCANIN
24	GER	Jaden EIKERMAN
25	CAN	Kate MILLER
25	ESP	Adrian ABADIA
25	ESP	Carlos CAMACHO DEL HOYO
26	IRL	Clara MCGING
26	NZL	Liam STONE
26	VEN	Jesus Eduardo GONZALEZ REYES
27	NZL	Mikali DAWSON
27	PUR	Emanuel VASQUEZ
27	MAS	Enrique HAROLD
28	NOR	Isak BORSLIEN

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According to my calculations, Canada frees 3 quotas and UK 5, so finally all finalists are officially in and now the semifinalists start to  roll by.

 

Wikipedia names some selected in France, Italy, Mexico, Ukraine & Australia. Is any of that official? if so, some quotas would roll by as well.

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  On 6/12/2024 at 8:08 AM, Adriano said:

I know that, thanks for answer. But for you it means that next athlete from the same event will go? From previous OG I thought the quota goes differently. Moreover in this OG system document they said "they will try have the equality in gender"

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I think this is as clear as any World Aquatics document is... very unclear hahaha

They tend to make things dubious I guess to decide later what is the best. 
For me, it should go position by position, but hard to know indeed.

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  On 2/10/2024 at 10:00 AM, avlar said:

So let mathematics begin! ))

 

According to wikipedia total number quotas now is 143.

This number includes all the quotas for individual finalists from Doah but not for semifinalists.

 

So we "just" have to know synchro double-starters )

 

 

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I've tallied up athletes that qualified in both events.

 

Obviously some of those athletes could choose to focus only in one event and the quotas would not be reallocated. As some countries that qualified with different athletes (as in UK) could end up choosing to double up someone.

 

But, objectively speaking, athletes won a quota for their countries in synchronized and individual:

 

M3m Springboard: 8 (including Jules Bouyer, from France, who had already a quota in sync but participated in the event)

M10m Platform: 10

W3m Springboard: 8

W10m platform: 8

 

Apparently (according to wikipedia, Osmar Olvera and Rylan Wiens are confirmed to double up).

 

Considering only the finalists we have already 143 (7 extras from the 136).

 

So, if really 34 athletes double-up, we would have 27 more quotas. 17 or 18 of them would go to the semifinalists (as Sofiia LYSKUN could also double-up), and we would have 9 or 10 more quotas. If there are 10 quotas, this would mean that all 22th and better would be in the Olympics.

 

Curiously 34 finalists double up (from 48 athletes), but only 1 of the 24 semifinalists, and none until the 22th.

 

Sorry if it is in Portuguese, but the green ones are "guaranteed" and the yellow are the other finalists

 

According to the counts above (obviously not official AT ALL), the semifinalists plus the ones in purple would get in (the Ukranian is double-up)

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  On 1/23/2024 at 8:35 PM, Dragon said:

No Russian divers have entered the World Championships so they will also miss the Paris Olympics.

Same goes for open water swimming

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They could easily get the IOC invitations, specially one or two divers.

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  On 2/6/2024 at 7:51 PM, Olympian1010 said:

Diving is arguably one of the best examples of how to "waste" Olympic quotas, along with creating a unclear qualification system.

 

It's wild to me that divers qualified in synchro don't have the automatic right to enter individual events. Plus, it wouldn't be the end of the world if nations could qualify composite teams for synchro.

 

Swimming isn't much better, but at least they made a sensible decision to allow additional entires into the open water events. 

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I also think that if 2 athletes qualified on individual they should also have the permission in the syncro...

 

And in the end, this thing is very messy. it doesn't make too much sense 2 athletes win quotas in syncro and then the same two win in individual and the country have the possibility of taking 4 athletes.... it should be like canoeing. If you win in syncro you can participate in the individual and open up quotas automatically.

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  On 2/6/2024 at 1:30 PM, Adriano said:

Guys all Top 18 are really safe

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We think so, but that's not official at all. 

 

Actually, not even finalists are safe, at least officially now.

 

The official document is very very very clear that in no way it will be possible to have more than 136 athletes.

 

At the beginning of the WC we already had 90 quotas distribuited from host country, Fukuoka and Continental Golds. As the Syncro quotas are guaranteed, we will have 32 more, so 122. 

 

This means, only 14 quotas will be definitely officially given right now. In the women's plataform we had 4 finalists in. For the men's at least 4... 

 

The NOCs will have 2 weeks to confirm the quotas and than reallocation process begins. 

 

China for instance (and other countries) probably will have 16 quotas, but will take 9, 10 athletes.

 

I'm not really sure about 2 things:

 

1- Do the countries have to nominate their athletes now or can China (and other countries) accept the 16 athletes and can in June/July say "here we will only have 9 athletes, thanks". Or do they have to nominate their athletes now?

 

What I think: If we count all the finalists we will have a bit more than 140 athletes, with 5-10 exceding. I THINK the World Aquatics will confirm all those quotas, knowing that in the end they will have less then 136. And ONLY then they will start to invite the semifinalists.

 

2- The reallocation will go through the position of the semifinal (as in: first all the 13th, then 14th, then 15th, etc?). Or will they try to adjust first the 4 individual events in the number of athletes? I think it will be the first.

 

 

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  On 2/4/2024 at 3:04 PM, Adriano said:

I was cheeering for Rzeszutek so much, he was so close OG last edition. Nearly 1 point... that's  hurt.  No diver since 1992.

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Does he have any chance at the individual?

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  On 2/4/2024 at 2:48 PM, Gianlu33 said:

Spain qualified at Olympics

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that's how you jinx it hahaha

but was an amazing sommersault indeed

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Mexico is back in the game!