Cmon Mary 11 Posted April 25, 2021 #191 Share Posted April 25, 2021 On 05/04/2021 at 03:49, Fly_like_a_don said: New Revised Qualification has been sent to IOC for approval. Does anyone know what the changes proposed were? And why have they not already been considered and accepted/rejected by IOC, given that there are continental champs happening right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,047 Posted April 25, 2021 #192 Share Posted April 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, Cmon Mary said: Does anyone know what the changes proposed were? And why have they not already been considered and accepted/rejected by IOC, given that there are continental champs happening right now? apparently it's about giving Oceania athletes a chance to have an online event ! it was mandatory for everybody to participate in one event in 2021 (extended period because of COVID) which was the continental championships for everybody. but with Oceania Champs being cancelled IWF is looking for a way to make up for that without having to change everything completely. dcro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,172 Posted April 25, 2021 #193 Share Posted April 25, 2021 52 minutes ago, MHSN said: apparently it's about giving Oceania athletes a chance to have an online event ! it was mandatory for everybody to participate in one event in 2021 (extended period because of COVID) which was the continental championships for everybody. but with Oceania Champs being cancelled IWF is looking for a way to make up for that without having to change everything completely. Wait... So IWF will send an official to all those 15 islands or what? Surely they don't expect the online results to be trustworthy by default...? #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,047 Posted April 25, 2021 #194 Share Posted April 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, dcro said: Wait... So IWF will send an official to all those 15 islands or what? Surely they don't expect the online results to be trustworthy by default...? we don't know the details. maybe they gather in 2 or 3 confirmed places that was what ITG reported from their proposal. nothing confirmed but that makes sense actually. they have no other option with Oceania Championship's cancellation. it's not really about the results. last event isn't going to make "huge" changes in the ranking. it's mostly about the doping test. that's why participating in one event at this time is mandatory. wherever they lift, there should be doping test, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benolympique 1,498 Posted April 25, 2021 #195 Share Posted April 25, 2021 or why not give 1 quota for each small oceanic island? Giovanni Gianni Cattaneo and dcro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,172 Posted April 25, 2021 #196 Share Posted April 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, Benolympique said: or why not give 1 quota for each small oceanic island? Why not give 1 quota to all 205 NOCs? Giovanni Gianni Cattaneo 1 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illya 386 Posted April 25, 2021 #197 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 hour ago, MHSN said: apparently it's about giving Oceania athletes a chance to have an online event ! it was mandatory for everybody to participate in one event in 2021 (extended period because of COVID) which was the continental championships for everybody. but with Oceania Champs being cancelled IWF is looking for a way to make up for that without having to change everything completely. Online event? This would be the last qualification event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,047 Posted April 25, 2021 #198 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Illya said: Online event? This would be the last qualification event? the last qualification event will be the World Junior Championships but I assume nobody from that tournament can go to the Olympics. all of them were maximum 17 when the qualification period started ! and that online event (even if that happens) is only for the Oceania athletes, not for everybody. for most weightlifters Colombia event is the last chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,047 Posted April 26, 2021 #199 Share Posted April 26, 2021 109kg ranking 1. Martirosyan (NOC is limited to 1) - Yang 2. Djuraev 3. Chumak - 3765 (NOC is limited to 2) - Bochkov - 3722 (no) (NOC is limited to 1) 4. Naniev - 3698 (NOC is limited to 1) 5. Michalski - 3574 6. Aramnau - 3568 (NOC is limited to 1) - Hashemi - 3560 (no) (5 events) 7. Plesnieks - 3556 8. Hristov - 3439 (NOC is limited to 2) 9. Jin - 3372 - Jeong - 3358 (no) 10. Ruiz - 3292 11. Kitts - 3281 - Bersanov - 3192 (NOC is limited to 1) - Mochida - 3144 (5 events) 12. Martirosjan - 3091 13. Gonzalez - 3060 13. Columbie - 2923 I believe RUS, ARM and BLR will use their only quota here in this weight but of course that's not guaranteed. Aramnau was terrible in Euro. Martirosytan just killed someone in a car accident. I also think BUL send Hristov it's possible for Hashemi of IRI to go to Colombia and makes himself eligible. Iran won't pick him if someone at 96kg makes it. == * only few points separate AUS, ASA and SAM in Oceania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,047 Posted April 26, 2021 #200 Share Posted April 26, 2021 +109kg ranking 1. Talakhadze - Minasyan (NOC is limited to 1) 2. Davoudi - 3717 (NOC is limited to 2) - Ziaziulin - 3595 (NOC is limited to 1) 3. Reis - 3559 4. Assad - 3439 5. Toychyyev - 3414 6. Bidani - 3311 (Africa) - Savchuk - 3182 (5 events) (NOC is limited to 1) 7. Orsag - 3126 ?. Ham - 3125 (more than 4 quotas available for KOR) ?. Martirosjan - 3091 (also eligible for 109kg) - Kucera - 3088 (2nd CZE) - Murakami - 3031 (5 events) 8. Nagy - 3023 9. Wilkes - 2896 10. Liti - 2797 (Oceania) 11. Litvinov - 2772 12. Kuworge - 2633 13. Manriquez - 2474 This weight is probably the hardest one to predict ! so many uncertainties KOR has a guy in top 8 but he was very poor in Asia, I don't think they pick him the biggest question is about ARM and BLR and if they use their only quota here. a month ago that was impossible but not anymore. JPN can send this guy to Colombia and easily make him qualify Martirosjan (AUT) who is a 109kg can easily qualify in this weight if he wants too. == if Bidani stays in top 8, there is nobody else from Africa in the ranking !! that quota will be reallocated. same for Asia if KOR and JPN both decide to not qualify in this weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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