Laraja 1,313 Posted February 7, 2020 #111 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) Douglas Broose won the national selection at -75kg category. So, if he does not overtake Vinicius in Olympic ranking at -63kg, he will be the Brazilian representant at -75kg Olympic qualifying event. Edited February 7, 2020 by Laraja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,441 Posted February 7, 2020 #112 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Laraja said: Douglas Broose won the national selection at -75kg category. So, if he does not overtake Vinicius in Olympic ranking at -63kg, he will be the Brazilian representant at -75kg Olympic qualifying event. smart move... even if I don't know how much that's gonna pay...I mean, going from 60kg to 75kg changes a lot of things on the international scene... Laraja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 2,988 Posted February 9, 2020 #113 Share Posted February 9, 2020 WKF is really quick in updating rankings ! we have some major changes after the African champs. the Egyptian guy at 67kg won silver medal but he lost 300pts because he didn't defend his gold medal from 2019, therefore he is tied with Figueira on pts and the Brazilian will be higher because of his better result at the World Champs. of course this is just for now. they still have 3 more events left. this is the list of virtually qualified athletes by now. El-Sawy still receives the African quota but that causes some other changes in the list. but keep in mind even if the deadline was today those additional athletes (continental quotas) are not guaranteed a spot because it's possible to see some changes in the list after the last chance qualifier mostly because of max 2 quotas per event rule. for example if El-Sawy qualifies directly from the Paris tournament, the African quota goes to another Egyptian athlete at 75kg and that means the Kazakh guy can't grab the Asian quota at 75kg. Men Kata: 67kg: 75kg: +75kg: Women Kata: 55kg: 61kg: +61kg: Laraja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestmen 2,531 Posted February 9, 2020 #114 Share Posted February 9, 2020 The qualif is based Only by ranking , after that they give the wild cards to malawi faroe ushuaia and no quota for ALG this is cheating anyway this sport is ugly Waiting to see the vovinam in , we will f.... the world ? Laraja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 2,988 Posted February 16, 2020 #115 Share Posted February 16, 2020 WKF is extremely quick in updating the ranking I made some calculations, this is the list of athletes with realistic chance (even small chance) to qualify directly to the Olympics. I removed points from 2019 European Championships which will be replaced by 2020 results. that's why this ranking is a bit different than WKF athletes in bold are 100% qualified and keep in mind European athletes have 1 more chance the rest. which means they can gain something around 3000pts in remaining events. Men's Kata Damian Quintero - 8737.5 Q Ali Sofuoglu - 5512.5 Q Antonio Diaz - 5055 Q Mattia Busato - 3870 Ariel Torres - 2677.5 Ilja Smorguner - 2040 Men's 60kg Darkhan Assadilov - 9817.5 Q Angelo Crescenzo - 7350 Eray Samdan - 6772.5 Men's 67kg Steven Dacosta - 7950 Q Vinicius Figueira - 6622.5 Ali El-Sawy - 5902.5 Men's 75kg Bahman Askari - 8272.5 Q Luigi Busa - 6300 Rafael Aghayev - 6045 Thomas Scott - 5017.5 Stanislav Horuna - 4387.5 Yermek Ainazarov - 4117.5. Abdalla Abdelaziz - 3322.5 Erman Eltemur - 3142.5 Logan Da Costa - 2880 Gabor Harspataki - 2662.5 Noah Bitsch - 2632.5 Men's 84kg Zabihollah Poursheib - 8775 Ugur Aktas - 8392.5 Ivan Kvesic - 5767.5 Daniyar Yuldashev - 4537.5 Valerii Chobotar - 4065 Anton Isakau - 3300 Men's +84kg Sajjad Ganjzadeh - 8287.5 Jonathan Horne - 7042.5 Gogita Arkania - 6060 Alparsalan Yamanoglu - 4162.5 Dnylson Jacquet - 3487.5 Mehdi Filali - 3390 * The situation between Poursheib/Ganjzadeh makes the combined +75kg qualification is a bit complicated for everybody, Poursheib is guaranteed a top 2 finish which will guarantee Iran a spot but not for himself because of Ganjzadeh. right now Poursheib has more points but WKF shows Ganjzadeh in green ! because he is #1 in his weight and Poursheib is #2 (with Aktas still having his 2019 Euro points) still I'm not sure what will be the main criteria in this case for 2 athletes from the same country. 1) number of points or 2) rank in the category. right now I assume it's number 2. Laraja, Dunadan, Wumo and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 2,988 Posted February 16, 2020 #116 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) and for women Women's Kata Sandra Sanchez - 10582.5 Q Viviana Bottaro - 6585 Q Grace Lau - 5790 Sakura Kokumai - 5197.5 Dilara Eltemur - 3667.5 Women's 50kg Serap Ozcelik - 10342.5 Q Sara Bahmanyar - 5497.5 Li Ranran - 4350 Shara Hubrich - 4117.5 Bettina Plank - 4057.5 Radwa Sayed - 4012.5 Junna Tsukii - 3697.5 Alexandra Recchia - 2895 Women's 55kg Anzhelika Terliuga - 8992.5 Q Wen Tzu-Yun - 6510 Jana Messerschmidt - 4927.5 Women's 61kg Yin Xiaoyan - 9975 Q Giana Lotfy - 7140 Q Jovana Prekovic - 5362.5 Merva Coban - 5047.5 Rozita Alipour - 4897.5 Gwendoline Philippe - 4440 Haya Jumaa - 4387.5 Leila Heurtault - 4365 Alexandra Grande - 3675 Laura Pasqua - 2437.5 Women's 68kg Irina Zaretska - 8647.5 Q Elena Quirici - 5445 Gong Li - 5422.5 Feryal Abdelaziz - 5325 Silvia Semeraro - 5130 Alizee Agier - 4230 Halyna Melnyk - 4057.5 Miroslava Kopunova - 3150 Women's +68kg Hamideh Abbasali - 6007.5 Meltem Hocaoglu - 4897.5 Sofya Berultseva - 4897.5 Eleni Chatziliadou - 4575 Clio Ferracuti - 4237.5 Gao Mengmeng - 3150 Shymaa Abouel-Yazed - 3075 Titta Keinanen - 3052.5 Anna-Laure Florentin - 2895 Maria Torres - 2857.5 Edited February 16, 2020 by MHSN Laraja, phelps, Dunadan and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Liu 1,549 Posted February 16, 2020 #117 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 hours ago, MHSN said: WKF is extremely quick in updating the ranking I made some calculations, this is the list of athletes with realistic chance (even small chance) to qualify directly to the Olympics. I removed points from 2019 European Championships which will be replaced by 2020 results. that's why this ranking is a bit different than WKF athletes in bold are 100% qualified and keep in mind European athletes have 1 more chance the rest. which means they can gain something around 3000pts in remaining events. Men's Kata Damian Quintero - 8737.5 Q Ali Sofuoglu - 5512.5 Q Antonio Diaz - 5055 Q Mattia Busato - 3870 Ariel Torres - 2677.5 Ilja Smorguner - 2040 Men's 60kg Darkhan Assadilov - 9817.5 Q Angelo Crescenzo - 7350 Eray Samdan - 6772.5 Men's 67kg Steven Dacosta - 7950 Q Vinicius Figueira - 6622.5 Ali El-Sawy - 5902.5 Men's 75kg Bahman Askari - 8272.5 Q Luigi Busa - 6300 Rafael Aghayev - 6045 Thomas Scott - 5017.5 Stanislav Horuna - 4387.5 Yermek Ainazarov - 4117.5. Abdalla Abdelaziz - 3322.5 Erman Eltemur - 3142.5 Logan Da Costa - 2880 Gabor Harspataki - 2662.5 Noah Bitsch - 2632.5 Men's 84kg Zabihollah Poursheib - 8775 Ugur Aktas - 8392.5 Ivan Kvesic - 5767.5 Daniyar Yuldashev - 4537.5 Valerii Chobotar - 4065 Anton Isakau - 3300 Men's +84kg Sajjad Ganjzadeh - 8287.5 Jonathan Horne - 7042.5 Gogita Arkania - 6060 Alparsalan Yamanoglu - 4162.5 Dnylson Jacquet - 3487.5 Mehdi Filali - 3390 * The situation between Poursheib/Ganjzadeh makes the combined +75kg qualification is a bit complicated for everybody, Poursheib is guaranteed a top 2 finish which will guarantee Iran a spot but not for himself because of Ganjzadeh. right now Poursheib has more points but WKF shows Ganjzadeh in green ! because he is #1 in his weight and Poursheib is #2 (with Aktas still having his 2019 Euro points) still I'm not sure what will be the main criteria in this case for 2 athletes from the same country. 1) number of points or 2) rank in the category. right now I assume it's number 2. I am new to catch up this sport, so I don't quite understand why there is one more Europe championships for European athletes. Isn't it unfair for athletes from other continents? Won't they object it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 2,988 Posted February 16, 2020 #118 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vic Liu said: I am new to catch up this sport, so I don't quite understand why there is one more Europe championships for European athletes. Isn't it unfair for athletes from other continents? Won't they object it? this is not "one more" , only one of them will be counted into the ranking. right now they are counting 2019 Euro but after the end of 2020 Euro, they replace those points with 2020 results. at the end only one of them will be counted. what I did here is I just removed those 2019 points . but yes other continents can protest about the fact that why European Championships is the last event !? that's not fair because European athletes know exactly what they need to qualify. that's not fair, the last tournament should be a worldwide one. Edited February 16, 2020 by MHSN Vic Liu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,441 Posted February 16, 2020 #119 Share Posted February 16, 2020 6 hours ago, MHSN said: WKF is extremely quick in updating the ranking I made some calculations, this is the list of athletes with realistic chance (even small chance) to qualify directly to the Olympics. I removed points from 2019 European Championships which will be replaced by 2020 results. that's why this ranking is a bit different than WKF athletes in bold are 100% qualified and keep in mind European athletes have 1 more chance the rest. which means they can gain something around 3000pts in remaining events. Men's Kata Damian Quintero - 8737.5 Q Ali Sofuoglu - 5512.5 Q Antonio Diaz - 5055 Q Mattia Busato - 3870 Ariel Torres - 2677.5 Ilja Smorguner - 2040 Men's 60kg Darkhan Assadilov - 9817.5 Q Angelo Crescenzo - 7350 Eray Samdan - 6772.5 Men's 67kg Steven Dacosta - 7950 Q Vinicius Figueira - 6622.5 Ali El-Sawy - 5902.5 Men's 75kg Bahman Askari - 8272.5 Q Luigi Busa - 6300 Rafael Aghayev - 6045 Thomas Scott - 5017.5 Stanislav Horuna - 4387.5 Yermek Ainazarov - 4117.5. Abdalla Abdelaziz - 3322.5 Erman Eltemur - 3142.5 Logan Da Costa - 2880 Gabor Harspataki - 2662.5 Noah Bitsch - 2632.5 Men's 84kg Zabihollah Poursheib - 8775 Ugur Aktas - 8392.5 Ivan Kvesic - 5767.5 Daniyar Yuldashev - 4537.5 Valerii Chobotar - 4065 Anton Isakau - 3300 Men's +84kg Sajjad Ganjzadeh - 8287.5 Jonathan Horne - 7042.5 Gogita Arkania - 6060 Alparsalan Yamanoglu - 4162.5 Dnylson Jacquet - 3487.5 Mehdi Filali - 3390 * The situation between Poursheib/Ganjzadeh makes the combined +75kg qualification is a bit complicated for everybody, Poursheib is guaranteed a top 2 finish which will guarantee Iran a spot but not for himself because of Ganjzadeh. right now Poursheib has more points but WKF shows Ganjzadeh in green ! because he is #1 in his weight and Poursheib is #2 (with Aktas still having his 2019 Euro points) still I'm not sure what will be the main criteria in this case for 2 athletes from the same country. 1) number of points or 2) rank in the category. right now I assume it's number 2. if that WKF document we did write a lot about in the past months has still some value, then final rank in their respective class has priority over the number of points (which is the following tie-breaker if both end up in the same spot in their class)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 2,988 Posted February 16, 2020 #120 Share Posted February 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, phelps said: if that WKF document we did write a lot about in the past months has still some value, then final rank in their respective class has priority over the number of points (which is the following tie-breaker if both end up in the same spot in their class)... yes it seems so, in the new ranking, they show Ganjzadeh in green so obviously the final rank in the weight class has the advantage. that means Aktas and Horne also will play a big role in this battle between our guys. it's also very important for Kvesic and Arkania, I think both of them most probably will finish 3rd in their classes, it will be up to the Iranians to decide about them phelps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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