Dnl 658 Posted April 28, 2021 #221 Share Posted April 28, 2021 As for the discussion here, a lot of countries have different immigration laws, and although it’s easy to think so , a lot of the times the representative of a country is a legal immigrant who has a connection to the country and want to represent it. we have in Israel for example the “law of return “ dated to the 1950’s , it gives athletes a chance to make “Alliyah” and then represent the country, there is no money involve and the I’d is not easy to get . I believe that it’s the same in France and in other countries as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Linha 470 Posted April 28, 2021 #222 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I would rather compare current world of "competing for whatever country I want" to the world of soccer, ice hockey or basketball. It has become a business and I think that we will be able to see it more and more. As mentioned above, athletes decide to represent another country because that country offers better conditions. It is like when someone play football for "FC Villagers" :-D .. a later is wanted by FC Slavia Prague. Of course, he goes, they offer better conditions and salary. From Slavia Prague he may go to Chelsea where are even better conditions and way higher salary. And in current world of Olympic sports? Oksana Chusovitina -》 :USR - - For me, personally very sad, freestyle skier Matěj Švancer. Winter Youth Olympic Games champion, world junior champion and big candidate to take one of the Olympic medals in Beijing 2022. Decided to compete for from next season. Competition is higher there but he trains in and their national team offers better conditions than national team as he said. I am really sad that he is not going to compete under our flag but on the other side, it does not make me cheer for him less. If he makes the Olympic Team, I think most of the Czechs will be still cheering for him and happy if he makes the medal. As another example, we may say some of the French speaking countries in Africa, where many great football players were born and later went to France and decided to take the French citizenship. We can't criticize them because it is what they do for living. As any other athletes in any other sports. I think it has become a common part of the world of sports and I think it should be respected from the side of Federation, opponents and fans. Giovanni Gianni Cattaneo and Dnl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,298 Posted April 28, 2021 #223 Share Posted April 28, 2021 13 hours ago, Benolympique said: to answer your question, France has a lot of black athletes or arab for reasons: we have a lot of overseas territories (Guadeloupe, Martinique, Saint Martin & Saint Barthélémy, French Guyana, Reunion Island, Mayotte, New Caledonia, French Polynesia and Tahiti, Wallis and Futuna); second reason due to our colonial past, many athletes are of African origin (Senegal, Cameroon, Ivory Coast ..... to name only the main ones) and from Magreb countries (Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco) Your history is clear in that, a consecuences for being a big empire with many colonies in all the world, i was surprise to see that there was at least one "minority" in every team, so i "guess" may be there is a "minority quota" or may be not, i dont know, is something very "strange" in this part of the world which dont exist nothing like that: all the athletes are elected by sports reasons and not political reasons.....thanks for the answer Ben, dont understand me wrong. Of course, in countries with laws to prevent racism, my question can be clearly missunderstood like the case of Intoronto and others users , not all the world is like your countries, may be that thing dont be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benolympique 1,592 Posted April 28, 2021 #224 Share Posted April 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, konig said: Your history is clear in that, a consecuences for being a big empire with many colonies in all the world, i was surprise to see that there was at least one "minority" in every team, so i "guess" may be there is a "minority quota" or may be not, i dont know, is something very "strange" in this part of the world which dont exist nothing like that: all the athletes are elected by sports reasons and not political reasons..... Of course, in countries with laws to prevent racism, my question can be clearly missunderstood like the case of Intoronto and others users , not all the world is like your countries, may be that thing dont be forgotten. in France there are a lot of black athletes. and that has never posed a problem in France. after I do not know di it is also the case in other European countries konig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,195 Posted April 30, 2021 #225 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I sometimes mess around with stats if an international federation doesn't provide visual aid in some form, like how I couldn't find anything on FIE's site that shows how the world ranking changed over time (like, event by event). So I made these because I wanted to see how much of a clusterfuck men's team epée was. How the world ranking of men's team epée changed since Rio for the 9 qualified teams: And the fight for the last few quotas between and where we ended up being the big losers of this Olympic cycle in this event. phelps, Gianlu33 and Wumo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rybak 2,684 Posted April 30, 2021 #226 Share Posted April 30, 2021 fencing team for Olympics has been officialy announced. Epee: Ewa Trzebińska Renata Knapik - Miazga Aleksandra Jarecka Magdalena Piekarska - Twardochel (she will compete only in team event) Foil: Martyna Jelińska phelps and Benolympique 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajiv 25 Posted May 1, 2021 #227 Share Posted May 1, 2021 On 28/04/2021 at 19:07, Benolympique said: concerning the case of Sasha Zhoya he has 3 nationalities Australia, country of birth, France, country of his mother, and Zimbabwe, country of his father, he chose France, after I do not know the reasons, and we are very happy that he runs under the colors of France The article I read stated that if he competed for France he could be a funded full time athlete whereas Australia didn't make such an offer . He has lived his whole life in Australia Sounds like a case of money to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,202 Posted May 20, 2021 #228 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Team Canada Marc-Antoine Blais Bélanger (Montreal, QC) – Men’s Individual ÉpéeAlex Cai (Toronto, ON) – Men’s Team & Individual FoilShaul Gordon (Richmond, BC) – Men’s Individual SabreJessica Guo (Toronto, ON) – Women’s Team & Individual FoilEleanor Harvey (Hamilton, ON) – Women’s Team & Individual FoilGabriella Page (Blainville, QC) – Women’s Individual SabreKelleigh Ryan (Ottawa, ON) – Women’s Team & Individual FoilEli Schenkel (Vancouver, BC) – Men’s Team & Individual FoilMaximilen Van Haaster (Montreal, QC) – Men’s Team & Individual Foil Substitutes: Blake Broszus (San Diego, California) Alanna Goldie (Calgary, AB) Only surprise is Cai beating out Brozus for the last foil spot, as the latter is ranked much higher. I don't expect that much from this team, but maybe an outside shot at a medal exists for Harvey or Guo in the individual or the team foil women's event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benolympique 1,592 Posted June 18, 2021 #229 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Daniel Jerent suspended for Dorzolamide doping, Romain Cannone takes his place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,202 Posted July 26, 2021 #230 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Can someone confirm, is it by seeds the team draws are held? So for women's team foil it would be v inthe first round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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