heywoodu 13,540 Posted July 25, 2021 #221 Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, OlympicIRL said: Lizzie Deignan also said she thought the Dutch won it Seems the entire group was left without any clue whatsoever. And nobody there paid attention neither. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted July 25, 2021 #222 Share Posted July 25, 2021 If so, it's still not unprecedented, as the same thing already happened with Jennie Longo in 1992. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinzha 529 Posted July 25, 2021 #223 Share Posted July 25, 2021 That does really explain the passive racing. I wonder if the initial happiness of getting a medal will turn into frustration at the race organisers in later interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,748 Posted July 25, 2021 #224 Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, heywoodu said: Seems the entire group was left without any clue whatsoever. And nobody there paid attention neither. That absolutely used to be a standard tactic up until back in the 1980s. I remember seeing it happening in a Tour of Croatia about 7 or 8 years ago, but never since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted July 25, 2021 #225 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Van der Breggen said they (everyone in the group, basically) thought they had taken back everyone from the lead group once Plichta and Shapira were caught, they miscounted. They also saw 1:35 on some screen or sign or something, and they thought it was the distance to the lead, which would have been no problem, but it was the gap between Kiesenhofer and the early chase. gubchandrolai, Jinzha and dcro 3 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,748 Posted July 25, 2021 #226 Share Posted July 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, dcro said: If so, it's still not unprecedented, as the same thing already happened with Jennie Longo in 1992. It once cost Robert Millar the Vuelta. He had chased down a break of Spanish riders, caught the remnants, and none of the other guys told them there was still another Spanish rider down the road. rafalgorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FancyFenchel 106 Posted July 25, 2021 #227 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, heywoodu said: Van der Breggen said they (everyone in the group, basically) thought they had taken back everyone from the lead group once Plichta and Shapira were caught, they miscounted. They also saw 1:35 on some screen or sign or something, and they thought it was the distance to the lead, which would have been no problem, but it was the gap between Kiesenhofer and the early chase. That's absolutely disaster for organisators. There should be some motocycling showing the right times and groups or at least at the first passing the finish line. rafalgorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted July 25, 2021 #228 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, FancyFenchel said: That's absolutely disaster for organisators. There should be some motocycling showing the right times and groups or at least at the first passing the finish line. Sure, but it's also up to the riders. They can get back to the team car for some info, but of course in the final of the race you're not gonna do that. They could have done so early enough though. Plus, count right. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted July 25, 2021 #229 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Van Vleuten: "The last information we received was before my fall, and was that there was a lead group and we had to start the real fight earlier than planned." Which they did. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted July 25, 2021 #230 Share Posted July 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, heywoodu said: Van Vleuten: "The last information we received was before my fall, and was that there was a lead group and we had to start the real fight earlier than planned." Before her fall? There is a video evidence of her asking the cameraman for time gaps. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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