Olympian1010 7,474 Posted December 13, 2019 #4231 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I thought Labour would do better. Of the 20 or so British friends I have, every one of them voted LAB or SNP. Really strange that I don’t know a single person that voted Labour. Guess that says a lot about who I associate with , or (upon further thinking) how polarized the world is right now. I have conservative friends of course, but not many these days. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,594 Posted December 13, 2019 #4232 Share Posted December 13, 2019 This election basically proves - not for the first time - people actually want a strong leadership & personality regardless of how huge the negative dead weight is there (which leans into my authoritarianism beliefs). Boris Johnson is the UK version of Donald Trump, no question about it. Corbyn was sitting on the Brexit fence for almost three years and then we he finally made his mind up, he came up with a second Brexit vote. Donk! Horrible idea. Theresa May had a personality of a wooden stick, she fell into a minority government trap while this clown Johnson got Tory their biggest win since Thatcher's heyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,474 Posted December 13, 2019 #4233 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Proof UK made the wrong decision today “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,594 Posted December 13, 2019 #4234 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said: I thought Labour would do better. Of the 20 or so British friends I have, every one of them voted LAB or SNP. Really strange that I don’t know a single person that voted Labour. Guess that says a lot about who I associate with , or (upon further thinking) how polarized the world is right now. I have conservative friends of course, but not many these days. People simply dislike Corbyn plain and simple. Not to mention they're tired of the Brexit mess. And this idiot wanted to drag on with the shitshow with another referendum. It's safe to say the society told him to GTFO. It's like foreshadowing Bernie Sanders in the US. Corbyn got slaughtered by Johnson tonight, old fool Sanders would get slaughtered by Trump in the USA but hey, Joe Biden probably steps in and saves Dems from such a disaster (while also losing in a more honorable way IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,594 Posted December 13, 2019 #4235 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Olympian1010 said: Proof UK made the wrong decision today Hey, it's your liberal democracy you all hail as the best system in the world The democracy has supported the biggest clown tandem in the world which probably means more useless analysis will come out of this while the sociallists and liberals of this world will be wondering how on Earth people voted for Trump & Johnson in such convincing fashion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,474 Posted December 13, 2019 #4236 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Monzanator said: This election basically proves - not for the first time - people actually want a strong leadership & personality regardless of how huge the negative dead weight is there (which leans into my authoritarianism beliefs). Boris Johnson is the UK version of Donald Trump, no question about it. Corbyn was sitting on the Brexit fence for almost three years and then we he finally made his mind up, he came up with a second Brexit vote. Donk! Horrible idea. Theresa May had a personality of a wooden stick, she fell into a minority government trap while this clown Johnson got Tory their biggest win since Thatcher's heyday. Yes personality/image seems to be the biggest deal breaker in the age of connection. Lying (while saying that you’re not) also seems to be a big factor in winning. Same trend in elections. Worth noting that the world is more polarized then ever. Left countries swinging further, and right countries going further right. Internationally my generation seems ultra liberal. It’s going to be an awesome decade of international politics. Buckle up everyone. Let’s hope and came create some real change in the cycle. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,474 Posted December 13, 2019 #4237 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Monzanator said: People simply dislike Corbyn plain and simple. Not to mention they're tired of the Brexit mess. And this idiot wanted to drag on with the shitshow with another referendum. It's safe to say the society told him to GTFO. It's like foreshadowing Bernie Sanders in the US. Corbyn got slaughtered by Johnson tonight, old fool Sanders would get slaughtered by Trump in the USA but hey, Joe Biden probably steps in and saves Dems from such a disaster (while also losing in a more honorable way IMO). I don’t know, polls are showing Trump beating everyone currently, which is just insane. Once we get through primaries, I think the party will rally around the “Fuck Trump” message, but until then it will look bleak. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,594 Posted December 13, 2019 #4238 Share Posted December 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said: Yeah the Irish national party has already flipped 2 DUP seats and could get more. It migh very well be the first time we see more nationalists the unionists. Hell, even parts of Belfast are voting for the nationalists in huge numbers. United Kingdom of England and Wales here we come. Even after saying that, Wales are voted more for nationalists and Labour than Tory. This may very well be the end of the line for the United Kingdom. Does anyone know wether or not LIB/DEM will support Scottish independence? There really the only party left with any power besides the SNP in Scotland. Labour still lost 6 seats - all gained by Tory. Wrexham is lost for Labour for the first time since 1935 - another big time sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,474 Posted December 13, 2019 #4239 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Monzanator said: Hey, it's your liberal democracy you all hail as the best system in the world The democracy has supported the biggest clown tandem in the world which probably means more useless analysis will come out of this while the sociallists and liberals of this world will be wondering how on Earth people voted for Trump & Johnson in such convincing fashion It is really strange. Conservatives has always voted to protect democracy, but now they keep electing these far-right authoritarian leaders. Socialists (who have always favored strong leadership, nationalism, and strong central government) support leaders who want to strengthen democracy. In the last decade we’ve seen a complete flip of ideology. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,474 Posted December 13, 2019 #4240 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Monzanator said: Labour still lost 6 seats - all gained by Tory. Wrexham is lost for Labour for the first time since 1935 - another big time sweep. Right, but a greater part of the “country” still favors LAB/CYU, and by a good majority. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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