konig 1,283 Posted May 10, 2019 #2541 Share Posted May 10, 2019 20 hours ago, amen09 said: "christian" country have the same rights and freedoms ? for example venezuela is like germany ? no Well but is for a particular comunist goverment of Venezuela, the rigths and freedoms are mostly "the same" in all the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,283 Posted May 10, 2019 #2542 Share Posted May 10, 2019 21 hours ago, Griff88 said: you forgot the words "very conservative" in the middle of the sentence Muslim and conservative are for me the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,418 Posted May 10, 2019 #2543 Share Posted May 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, konig said: Muslim and conservative are for me the same thing. In the United States Muslims swing left, Jews swing either way, most Christians swing hard right, Catholics tend to swing more right than left, Hindus tend to swing right more often than left, Buddhists swing left, and a good majority of Lutherans swing left. In my opinion all five major religions, save Buddhism, have all become increasingly conservative (that’s one of the main reasons I left, socialists/anarchists don’t get along well with the Catholic Church). In America most of the far right is made up of Christians, though I will conclude that minority religions contribute quite a bit to the far left. I don’t think you can religious and truly free. I think the world would be better off without religion, though I wouldn’t take people’s rights to worship away. I will argue against it heavily, but people have the right to believe in a higher power. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepharoah 2,264 Posted May 10, 2019 #2544 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I think the problem is with people predenting to be releagous and that they know everything about this religion so they can't be argued , that's what make some people hate to being stuck to any religion cuz of these people , but if u understand well this religion and deeply read about it from different people with different point of views i think you'll change your mind a bit or at least make a fair opinion of what this religion is truly about amen09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,499 Posted May 10, 2019 #2545 Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: In the United States Muslims swing left, Jews swing either way, most Christians swing hard right, Catholics tend to swing more right than left, Interestingly here it mostly seems to be all the same: right, hard right, harder right etc In things like surveys, a scarily large group of Muslims and Christians (although less of them than years ago, apart from the way too Christian towns like the one I live in) and so on generally show they are rather strongly in favour of having no equal rights for people who fall outside their strict 'moral beliefs'. A frightingly large number answers questions like "How bad is it when people are attacked for being gay?" with answers on the scale of "Too bad, but they shouldn't be gay then". I don't know how the groups tend to stand on economical issues, that's a bit less investigated If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff88 1,729 Posted May 10, 2019 #2546 Share Posted May 10, 2019 5 hours ago, konig said: Muslim and conservative are for me the same thing. Welp that's really unfortunate konig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestmen 2,537 Posted May 10, 2019 #2547 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) the protesting of today Spoiler Edited May 10, 2019 by bestmen konig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,283 Posted May 12, 2019 #2548 Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 10/05/2019 at 00:22, Olympian1010 said: In the United States Muslims swing left, Jews swing either way, most Christians swing hard right, Catholics tend to swing more right than left, Hindus tend to swing right more often than left, Buddhists swing left, and a good majority of Lutherans swing left. In my opinion all five major religions, save Buddhism, have all become increasingly conservative (that’s one of the main reasons I left, socialists/anarchists don’t get along well with the Catholic Church). In America most of the far right is made up of Christians, though I will conclude that minority religions contribute quite a bit to the far left. I don’t think you can religious and truly free. I think the world would be better off without religion, though I wouldn’t take people’s rights to worship away. I will argue against it heavily, but people have the right to believe in a higher power. Of course depends of the country, here the muslims are practically all conservatives and that is what i see of them all over the world, it isnt a "bad thing" at all, like all things, its has the good and bad aspects. are you considerer socialist?, is something shocking coming from somebody of USA, on the other hand, is a good thing of you the tolerance for religious people, for me the problem is not the religio, is the fanatism (in everything). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,283 Posted May 12, 2019 #2549 Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 10/05/2019 at 05:21, Griff88 said: Welp that's really unfortunate I cant separte both things but i know, for a friend of mine, that in your country is diferent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,181 Posted May 12, 2019 #2550 Share Posted May 12, 2019 hace 1 hora, konig dijo: are you considerer socialist?, is something shocking coming from somebody of USA, on the other hand, is a good thing of you the tolerance for religious people, for me the problem is not the religio, is the fanatism (in everything). Bernie Sanders got 13 million votes in the primaries of 2016 and the total electors in the final vote was 127 million. That's a good 10% of the people voting "socialist", as you would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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