Quaker2001 246 Posted June 30, 2021 #41 Share Posted June 30, 2021 International Gymnastics Federation releases draw for Tokyo Olympics hckošice and rafalgorka 1 1 Paris 2024 competition schedule by Day Paris 2024 competition schedule by Sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 13,246 Posted June 30, 2021 #42 Share Posted June 30, 2021 so Barbora can grab with some luck some autograph from American ladies then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted June 30, 2021 #43 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Of course both our athletes are in the worst (1st) subdivision. It's kind of a running tradition. thiago_simoes 1 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicIRL 4,769 Posted June 30, 2021 #44 Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 hours ago, dcro said: Of course both our athletes are in the worst (1st) subdivision. It's kind of a running tradition. Why is it the worst subdivision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted June 30, 2021 #45 Share Posted June 30, 2021 24 minutes ago, OlympicIRL said: Why is it the worst subdivision? Rank order bias. Performances can only ever be compared to the preciding ones, not the ones that follow, and there is a tendency in humans to overemphesize novel positive features (like for example when we are out shopping and comparing things). Another thing is that at a start of a competition, judges may be more reluctant to award minimal deductions. Of course these judges are professionals, but it can add up, sometimes resulting with athletes going late in the draw getting more leniency. thiago_simoes 1 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiago_simoes 1,359 Posted June 30, 2021 #46 Share Posted June 30, 2021 The first subdivision is always bad. No one wants to go first. On the women's side, , and could greatly benefit from being in the last subdivision. , and were out of luck, and it will be especially hard for Urara Ashikawa to reach beam finals now, unless she does something truly remarkable. Mai Murakami also might suffer competing first, especially because her floor routine could be outscored by the Americans, Russians and even French, Canadians and Brazilians who will compete much later. Iordache will get to compete in the same subdivision the will be in, so it's going to be interesting to see if her scores will go up by this proximity. In my opinions, judges more often than not score the Americans higher -- sometimes, WAY higher -- than they deserve, so judges might "forget" about some deductions for Iordache too, if they're willing to do so. Let's see. On the men's side, things are usually more fair, but the first subdivision is still undesired. will not suffer so much because Srbic will compete on the high bar in the very last rotation, so judges will have a clear view of the field by then, especially after , , and will have competed on the apparatus. So, it's not the end of the world for Srbic. Zonderland, on the other hand, will start on the high bar and he's definitely going to be scored a couple of tenths lower than he would have been had he competed in the last subdivision. Basically, the worst possible draw for him. Georgious has enough potential to reach at lest one of the event finals, but competing in the first subdivision will hurt his chances. The last subdivision is going to be especially interesting for the Rings, because , , will compete. dcro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinipereira 3,054 Posted July 1, 2021 #47 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Men's Team Arthur Nory Caio Souza Diogo Soares Francisco Barretto Jr Arthur Zanetti (individual) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IoNuTzZ 289 Posted July 1, 2021 #48 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Well Iordache was supoosed to compete at Flanders International but her mom passed away. thiago_simoes and thepharoah 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicIRL 4,769 Posted July 1, 2021 #49 Share Posted July 1, 2021 6 hours ago, thiago_simoes said: The first subdivision is always bad. No one wants to go first. On the women's side, , and could greatly benefit from being in the last subdivision. , and were out of luck, and it will be especially hard for Urara Ashikawa to reach beam finals now, unless she does something truly remarkable. Mai Murakami also might suffer competing first, especially because her floor routine could be outscored by the Americans, Russians and even French, Canadians and Brazilians who will compete much later. Iordache will get to compete in the same subdivision the will be in, so it's going to be interesting to see if her scores will go up by this proximity. In my opinions, judges more often than not score the Americans higher -- sometimes, WAY higher -- than they deserve, so judges might "forget" about some deductions for Iordache too, if they're willing to do so. Let's see. On the men's side, things are usually more fair, but the first subdivision is still undesired. will not suffer so much because Srbic will compete on the high bar in the very last rotation, so judges will have a clear view of the field by then, especially after , , and will have competed on the apparatus. So, it's not the end of the world for Srbic. Zonderland, on the other hand, will start on the high bar and he's definitely going to be scored a couple of tenths lower than he would have been had he competed in the last subdivision. Basically, the worst possible draw for him. Georgious has enough potential to reach at lest one of the event finals, but competing in the first subdivision will hurt his chances. The last subdivision is going to be especially interesting for the Rings, because , , will compete. Rhys McClenaghan will be in subdivision 1. Do you know in which rotation he will compete on pommel? thiago_simoes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestro 567 Posted July 1, 2021 #50 Share Posted July 1, 2021 47 minutes ago, OlympicIRL said: Rhys McClenaghan will be in subdivision 1. Do you know in which rotation he will compete on pommel? His group will start from floor exercise, so pommel will be their next apparatus, in rotation 2. OlympicIRL and thiago_simoes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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