Vektor 3,177 Posted May 11, 2021 #61 Share Posted May 11, 2021 And yeah, this can get really ugly. There are already conspiracy theories out there that either Sidi or Péni put something in the other's drink that caused a positive test. Hopefully it's one of our other shooters, because if it's Sidi or Péni, who knows what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,177 Posted May 12, 2021 #62 Share Posted May 12, 2021 We still don't know who produced the positive test, but the scandal is getting bigger: Péter Sidi has been suspended by the Hungarian Shooting Federation because without permission he entered István Péni's room during the Delhi World Cup and stayed there for 45 minutes. Péni wasn't in the room at that time, but there's undisputable evidence from the security footage. The federation will now conduct a disciplinary procedure against Sidi. I think there's a chance that Sidi's quota will be rejected and then reallocated. Gianlu33 and Agger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,177 Posted May 12, 2021 #63 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Obviously this supports the conspiracy theory that Péni produced the positive test, and Sidi put something in his food/drink. Hopefully this isn't true because of it is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolby 712 Posted May 12, 2021 #64 Share Posted May 12, 2021 What a big loss for Hungary. Both Peni and Sidi are top class shooters. That is multiple medal chances gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,177 Posted May 12, 2021 #65 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dolby said: What a big loss for Hungary. Both Peni and Sidi are top class shooters. That is multiple medal chances gone. Yeah... I think we are losing both Péni and Sidi. Based on what's going on, I would be surprised if Péni isn't the one who had the positive test (why else would they watch the security footage two months after the event?). Nobody can actually prove that Sidi did anything when he was in that room so Péni can't prove that he was framed if his test is positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano 401 Posted May 12, 2021 #66 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Vektor said: Yeah... I think we are losing both Péni and Sidi. Based on what's going on, I would be surprised if Péni isn't the one who had the positive test (why else would they watch the security footage two months after the event?). Nobody can actually prove that Sidi did anything when he was in that room so Péni can't prove that he was framed if his test is positive. Can't you send diffrent athletes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,177 Posted May 12, 2021 #67 Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Adriano said: Can't you send diffrent athletes? Hm, for some reason I thought that the shooting quotas has to be used by the athletes who won them. I guess we can send others like Pekler, but we obviously won't have the same medal chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,536 Posted May 12, 2021 #68 Share Posted May 12, 2021 it looks like the Baldini vs Cassarà affair at the 2008 Fencing Europeans, when Baldini tested positive and immediately claimed he was framed by his rival Cassarà (at the time they were fighting for the second and last Italian spot in the Individual Foil in Beijing 2008, when no team event for that weapon was scheduled)... In the end, Baldini could demonstrate he didn't take any drug intentionally and a few months later it was even proved that he was someone from Cassarà's entourage that put the banned drug in Baldini's water bottle, but the damage was done, as Baldini was provisionally suspended and Cassarà went to the Beijing Olympics (where he miserably failed...because Karma is a bitch an so on)... ah...the good old glory days of 13+ years ago...when I was younger and healtier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,536 Posted May 12, 2021 #69 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Vektor said: Hm, for some reason I thought that the shooting quotas has to be used by the athletes who won them. I guess we can send others like Pekler, but we obviously won't have the same medal chances. no, quota won at world champs/world cup are for the NOC...so, you might choose other shooters (the main problem is that you can only swap 1 quota between different events -and not between genders- so you still have to choose at least 1 rifle specialist that is clearly a 3rd choice behind the 2 misbehaving contenders)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_like_a_don 866 Posted May 12, 2021 #70 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Vektor said: Nobody can actually prove that Sidi did anything Isn't the video footage enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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