dcro 10,179 Posted January 29, 2021 #11 Share Posted January 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nickyc707 said: Why? Presumably things like wind and rain potentially impact on the shot outdoors so throws made indoors and outdoors cannot legitimately be compared. Firstly, shot is way too heavy to be influenced by wind or rain. Secondly, if weather conditions are seriously an issue at hand, then they should either have separate WRs for sunny/cloudy/rainy/windy/snowy/hot/cold weather as well, or not have WRs at all. Let's be honest, WRs for indoor events other than track/combined are there only for some arbitrary/equality reasons. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,749 Posted January 29, 2021 #12 Share Posted January 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, dcro said: Firstly, shot is way too heavy to be influenced by wind or rain. Yeah, but the athletes are very much influenced by rain. Nickyc707 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted January 29, 2021 #13 Share Posted January 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Grassmarket said: Yeah, but the athletes are very much influenced by rain. Second argument covers this. And I would be surprised if any of the current T&F WRs has been set in rain. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,749 Posted January 29, 2021 #14 Share Posted January 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, dcro said: Second argument covers this. And I would be surprised if any of the current T&F WRs has been set in rain. But that’s the point! Every time you throw indoors you have an equal chance of getting a big throw: not so much outdoors. All athletes train to peak for maybe 2-3 weeks a season, so if it’s wet at your WC or Olympics, that’s probably 50% of your chance to get a record that year gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalamAkhi 277 Posted January 29, 2021 #15 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Of course rain influence the shot putters, how they handle it, the contact with the somehow wet ground etc Nickyc707 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted January 29, 2021 #16 Share Posted January 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, Grassmarket said: But that’s the point! Every time you throw indoors you have an equal chance of getting a big throw: not so much outdoors. All athletes train to peak for maybe 2-3 weeks a season, so if it’s wet at your WC or Olympics, that’s probably 50% of your chance to get a record that year gone. WRs (and sport in general) are really not about equal chances though. Some track materials are better for sprinters, others are better for distance runners. Should there then be separate WRs for 'ideal' track and not-ideal tracks? Like I said, WRs for the indoors field events are just a matter of equality. I doubt WA is even giving a thought about anything else. Shot put is a shot put. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EselTheDonkey 657 Posted January 29, 2021 #17 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Live Results Karlsruhe: Indoor Meeting Karlsruhe | World Athletics Indoor Tour (meeting-karlsruhe.de) Livestream, but I don't know if it's geoblocked: SWR Livestream - Leichtathletik Indoor Meeting Karlsruhe, 29.1. ab 18:35 Uhr - SWR Sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 3,570 Posted January 29, 2021 #18 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Dongmo show some class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,749 Posted January 29, 2021 #19 Share Posted January 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, EselTheDonkey said: Live Results Karlsruhe: Indoor Meeting Karlsruhe | World Athletics Indoor Tour (meeting-karlsruhe.de) Livestream, but I don't know if it's geoblocked: SWR Livestream - Leichtathletik Indoor Meeting Karlsruhe, 29.1. ab 18:35 Uhr - SWR Sport So it seems in German the more verbs you have at the end of the sentence, the more forbidden it is, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,749 Posted January 29, 2021 #20 Share Posted January 29, 2021 UNESCO City of Media Arts, my arse! Dina Asher-Smith 7.11nWL, that will do Oi, Martinot-Lagard pulls up injured. Very efficient work with the plasticine boards there! German craftsmanship at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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