Monzanator 3,569 Posted September 13, 2021 #121 Share Posted September 13, 2021 It is BS penalty. It was a 50/50 racing incident IMO. However Sochi is one track where this penalty isn't that severe due to the extremely long run down to Turn 2 braking zone (T1 is a kink). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Fastovsky 124 Posted September 13, 2021 #122 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Monzanator said: It is BS penalty. It was a 50/50 racing incident IMO. However Sochi is one track where this penalty isn't that severe due to the extremely long run down to Turn 2 braking zone (T1 is a kink). Will be interesting to see if they will decide to do a bottas style engine change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,569 Posted September 14, 2021 #123 Share Posted September 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Maxim Fastovsky said: Will be interesting to see if they will decide to do a bottas style engine change I don't think so. Too much to lose in the title race. Bottas was a non-factor for months so it didn't mean much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Fastovsky 124 Posted September 14, 2021 #124 Share Posted September 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Monzanator said: I don't think so. Too much to lose in the title race. Bottas was a non-factor for months so it didn't mean much. You don't think they will before the end of the season? Sky made it seem like it's coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,569 Posted September 14, 2021 #125 Share Posted September 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Maxim Fastovsky said: You don't think they will before the end of the season? Sky made it seem like it's coming They probably will but ahead of a track that actually enables overtaking a little more than others. Mexico is usually a strong track for Red Bull so they wouldn't risk losing a victory but maybe they do it ahead of Interlagos (or Austin if the mileage is bigger than we think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Fastovsky 124 Posted September 14, 2021 #126 Share Posted September 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Monzanator said: They probably will but ahead of a track that actually enables overtaking a little more than others. Mexico is usually a strong track for Red Bull so they wouldn't risk losing a victory but maybe they do it ahead of Interlagos (or Austin if the mileage is bigger than we think). Since when is changing an engine is a penalty? is it on the first engine a penalty? i remember grid penalties for transmission changes, but not engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,569 Posted September 15, 2021 #127 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Maxim Fastovsky said: Since when is changing an engine is a penalty? is it on the first engine a penalty? i remember grid penalties for transmission changes, but not engine Every driver has three engines per season. Using four or more engines equals a penalty (you can go back to engine previously used as long as it's max. three). Here's the full chart at the Italian GP. Everyone is on their 3rd engine except for Bottas & Perez who are on #4 (they incurred penalties already). Bottas lost one in the Imola collision with Russell and Perez lost one in the Hungary Turn 1 pile-up. Verstappen lost one in the British GP shunt and is on his third since Hungary. Mind you, Monza is usually the target for an engine change since it's a power circuit. Most drivers made a switch to their third engine only ahead of this Grand Prix. https://maxf1.net/en/2021-f1-power-unit-elements-usage/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Fastovsky 124 Posted September 15, 2021 #128 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Monzanator said: Every driver has three engines per season. Using four or more engines equals a penalty (you can go back to engine previously used as long as it's max. three). Here's the full chart at the Italian GP. Everyone is on their 3rd engine except for Bottas & Perez who are on #4 (they incurred penalties already). Bottas lost one in the Imola collision with Russell and Perez lost one in the Hungary Turn 1 pile-up. Verstappen lost one in the British GP shunt and is on his third since Hungary. Mind you, Monza is usually the target for an engine change since it's a power circuit. Most drivers made a switch to their third engine only ahead of this Grand Prix. https://maxf1.net/en/2021-f1-power-unit-elements-usage/ When did hamilton change to his 3rd? No way Verstappen can finish the season with his engine, he will have to change it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,569 Posted September 15, 2021 #129 Share Posted September 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Maxim Fastovsky said: When did hamilton change to his 3rd? No way Verstappen can finish the season with his engine, he will have to change it Ahead of the Italian Grand Prix. Like I've mentioned before, this is a strategic place on the calendar for the last 'free' engine change for literally every team. Yep, Verstappen effectively has three more Grand Prix on the mileage (Hungary, Holland & Belgium which was a complete wash but not practice). Everyone is on the last allocated engine from Monza onwards (Perez took his 4th in Zandvoort already plus Bottas in Monza). Any further changes will result in grid penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Fastovsky 124 Posted September 26, 2021 #130 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Very surprising that verstappen finished 2nd after starting last. Off course lucky with that rain in the end that McLaren screwed up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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