Laraja 1,364 Posted August 11, 2021 #1041 Share Posted August 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, rafalgorka said: Oh, thank you, I didn't know that. Do you have link for the new one? https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Document Library/OlympicOrg/Games/Summer-Games/Paris-2024/Programme/Paris-2024-event-programme-EN.pdf?_ga=2.117401094.1648725098.1626924074-776589217.1626289801 rafalgorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiago_simoes 1,359 Posted August 11, 2021 #1042 Share Posted August 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Laraja said: https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Document Library/OlympicOrg/Games/Summer-Games/Paris-2024/Programme/Paris-2024-event-programme-EN.pdf?_ga=2.117401094.1648725098.1626924074-776589217.1626289801 Thank you! This shows a much clearer picture of where rhythmic gymnastics stands and how it fits in the so-called "gender equality" proposal. I am one of the only ones here who likes the idea to push gender equality, but I was worried about how the IOC is going to make it work. This document explains things a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D 873 Posted August 11, 2021 #1043 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Rhythmic gymnastics seems that balances the number of events for the genders in gymnastics since male events are +2 more in artistic gymnastics So the problem is with art swimming since we don't have more male events in aquatics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agger 1,587 Posted August 11, 2021 #1044 Share Posted August 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, George_D said: Rhythmic gymnastics seems that balances the number of events for the genders in gymnastics since male events are +2 more in artistic gymnastics So the problem is with art swimming since we don't have more male events in aquatics But as long as we have extras in wrestling (Greco-roman) we need extra women somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,134 Posted August 11, 2021 #1045 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Heaven's forbid the split is 51-49 or 52-48 Equal numbers in boxing, even though men have one more category intoronto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D 873 Posted August 11, 2021 #1046 Share Posted August 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, Agger said: But as long as we have extras in wrestling (Greco-roman) we need extra women somewhere else. yes. We are in -5 until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,205 Posted August 11, 2021 #1047 Share Posted August 11, 2021 In terms of medals, men are still +5 thanks to 6 extra Greco-Roman and 1 extra boxing events on the men's side and is only offset by 2 artistic swimming events on the women's side. The extra events in men's artistic gymnastics are cancelled out by the two women's rhythmic gymnastics events. In terms of athlete numbers men have +72 in football, +96 in Greco-Roman wrestling and +22 in water polo while the women have +96 in artistic swimming and +94 in rhythmic gymnastics which creates a net zero difference. It'll be interesting to see what the IOC will do to make medal events equal. The simplest thing would be to drop the extra boxing event (so it's 6+6) and to add the individual apparatus medals for rhythmic gymnastics. I'm not a big fan of making each rhythmic apparatus a medal event, but the alternative would be to drop rhythmic gymnastics and either don't award medals for individual artistic gymnastics apparatuses or to somehow make the women's artistic event have six apparatuses (among other changes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D 873 Posted August 11, 2021 #1048 Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, JoshMartini007 said: In terms of medals, men are still +5 thanks to 6 extra Greco-Roman and 1 extra boxing events on the men's side and is only offset by 2 artistic swimming events on the women's side. The extra events in men's artistic gymnastics are cancelled out by the two women's rhythmic gymnastics events. In terms of athlete numbers men have +72 in football, +96 in Greco-Roman wrestling and +22 in water polo while the women have +96 in artistic swimming and +94 in rhythmic gymnastics which creates a net zero difference. It'll be interesting to see what the IOC will do to make medal events equal. The simplest thing would be to drop the extra boxing event (so it's 6+6) and to add the individual apparatus medals for rhythmic gymnastics. I'm not a big fan of making each rhythmic apparatus a medal event, but the alternative would be to drop rhythmic gymnastics and either don't award medals for individual artistic gymnastics apparatuses or to somehow make the women's artistic event have six apparatuses (among other changes). that would mean more secured golds for russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur 509 Posted August 11, 2021 #1049 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Because men can't do Rhytmic Gymnastic cause "equality" only works one way....? ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D 873 Posted August 11, 2021 #1050 Share Posted August 11, 2021 seriously now.. i dont consider so bad to be a +5-10 events more for men in the whole program. Just compare this with what happened before 20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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