Werloc 3,127 Posted November 28, 2020 #261 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Col_Frost said: Well, I didn't think that. Another run one day after 15/20 km? I was sure that there will be changes Those that were replaced were definitely not replaced because of their tired legs after a 15/20. Nearly all of them finished between 70-100 and the teams don't usually consider the well being of their weakest athletes that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col_Frost 179 Posted November 28, 2020 #262 Share Posted November 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, Werloc said: Those that were replaced were definitely not replaced because of their tired legs after a 15/20. Nearly all of them finished between 70-100 and the teams don't usually consider the well being of their weakest athletes that much. What did you expect? That they'll change this from top 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,127 Posted November 28, 2020 #263 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Col_Frost said: What did you expect? That they'll change this from top 20? I'm just saying that these swaps are not because of coaches considering athletes after a 15/20km run. It's a mix of underperformers getting replaced as well, as some youngsters coming in that don't have the legs for 20k yet and some teams are putting forward their faster skiers that don't shoot as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobtheAggie 337 Posted November 28, 2020 #264 Share Posted November 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, Werloc said: It's a mix of underperformers getting replaced as well, as some youngsters coming in that don't have the legs for 20k yet and some teams are putting forward their faster skiers that don't shoot as well. I think the Swiss switch to Tamborino instead of Hartwig was more about getting Hartwig a start and was planned. Stadler did worse that Hartwig, 54 vs 60, but he is still in the sprint. To me, that seems like it was a planned switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobtheAggie 337 Posted November 28, 2020 #265 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Werloc said: Less than 24 hours between the races, you'd probably expect the teams to not go too crazy and not switch around the athletes during a Covid year, but it happened. Oryashkov (101st) for Bulgaria out, Todev, 19yo in Millar (98th) out for Canada, Burnotte, 23yo in Krupcik (76th) out for Czech Republic, Mikyska, 20yo in Siimer (85th) out for Estonia, Raenkel, 30yo in Ranta (66th) out for Finland, Hiidensalo, 29yo in Beletskiy (95th) out for Kazakhstan, Sirik, 26yo in Balodis (58th) and Slotins (96th) out for Latvia, Matjuhins 19yo, Birkentals 19yo in Skorusa (94th) out for Poland, Szwajnos, 22yo in Trsan (69th) out for Slovenia, Cisar, 20yo in Hartweg (54th) out for Switzerland, Tambornino, 34yo in Baloga (92nd) out for Slovakia, Bartko, 24yo in Dudchenko (99th) out for Ukraine, Lesiuk, 24yo in Women, imagine that, have 104 starters compared to 101 men. Which sport can actually boast about that? Sola (66th) out for Belarus, Kruchinkina I., 25yo in Vobornikova (82nd) out for Czech Republic, Tepla, 21yo in Lehtonen (79th) out for Finland, Laari, 30yo in Weidel (68th) out for Germany, Schneider, 23yo in Kolomiyets (86th) out for Kazakhstan, Klimina, 31yo in Ko (100th) and Kim (101st) out for South Korea, Mun 32yo, Frolina 36yo in Puce, 21yo is in for Latvia, moving them up to two starters Goreeva (56th) out for Russia, Mironova, 26yo in Selina Gasparin did not start in the individual for unknown reasons, but she is in the startlist for the sprint Bekh (64th) out for Ukraine, Valj Semerenko, 34yo in Phaneuf (75th) out for United States, Irwin, 28yo in So remember, you have to do good or you might get replaced by an IBU cup athlete. @Werloc Thanks for compiling this list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted November 28, 2020 #266 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Werloc said: Weidel (68th) out for Germany, Schneider, 23yo in Screw you, German coaches If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,127 Posted November 28, 2020 #267 Share Posted November 28, 2020 After today, it's only the twelth time that a Lithuanian biathlete makes it into the top 20. A lot of it is still dominated by Diana, but Vytautas and Tomas still have a career ahead of them. 1. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 8th place, 2011/12 season, Oberhof Sprint 2. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 10th place, 2009/10 season, Oberhof Sprint 3. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 11th place, 2008/09 season, Pyeong Chang WCH Sprint 4. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 11th place, 2006/07 season, Pokljuka Sprint 5. Tomas Kaukėnas, 13th place, 2018 Pyeong Chang Olympic Games Pursuit 6. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 15th place, 2011/12 season, Khantiy-Mansiysk Sprint 7. Vytautas Strolia, 16th place, 2020/21 season, Kontiolahti Individual 8. Tomas Kaukėnas, 17th place, 2018 Pyeong Chang Olympic Games Sprint 9. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 18th place, 2006 Turino Olympics Games Sprint 10. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 18th place, 2013/14 season, Ostersund Individual 11. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 19th place, 2009/10 season, Rupholding Sprint 12. Vytautas Strolia, 20th place, 2019/20 season, Oberhof Sprint There are further three Lithuanians that have made top 40 in the past 25th Karol Dombrovski, 2018/19 season, Pokljuka Individual 27th Natalija Kočergina, 2018/19 season, Ostersund WCH Sprint 39th Gabrielė Leščinskaitė, 2014/15 season, Kontiolahti WCH Individual A humble history for Lithuanian biathlon, but yes, only six athletes have made it into the top 40 at least once and we're in this for like 20 years. Only Diana Rasimovičiūtė is no longer active. Monzanator, RobtheAggie and heywoodu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col_Frost 179 Posted November 28, 2020 #268 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Werloc said: I'm just saying that these swaps are not because of coaches considering athletes after a 15/20km run. So we can agree that we disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,593 Posted November 28, 2020 #269 Share Posted November 28, 2020 54 minutes ago, Werloc said: After today, it's only the twelth time that a Lithuanian biathlete makes it into the top 20. A lot of it is still dominated by Diana, but Vytautas and Tomas still have a career ahead of them. 1. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 8th place, 2011/12 season, Oberhof Sprint 2. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 10th place, 2009/10 season, Oberhof Sprint 3. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 11th place, 2008/09 season, Pyeong Chang WCH Sprint 4. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 11th place, 2006/07 season, Pokljuka Sprint 5. Tomas Kaukėnas, 13th place, 2018 Pyeong Chang Olympic Games Pursuit 6. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 15th place, 2011/12 season, Khantiy-Mansiysk Sprint 7. Vytautas Strolia, 16th place, 2020/21 season, Kontiolahti Individual 8. Tomas Kaukėnas, 17th place, 2018 Pyeong Chang Olympic Games Sprint 9. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 18th place, 2006 Turino Olympics Games Sprint 10. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 18th place, 2013/14 season, Ostersund Individual 11. Diana Rasimovičiūtė, 19th place, 2009/10 season, Rupholding Sprint 12. Vytautas Strolia, 20th place, 2019/20 season, Oberhof Sprint There are further three Lithuanians that have made top 40 in the past 25th Karol Dombrovski, 2018/19 season, Pokljuka Individual 27th Natalija Kočergina, 2018/19 season, Ostersund WCH Sprint 39th Gabrielė Leščinskaitė, 2014/15 season, Kontiolahti WCH Individual A humble history for Lithuanian biathlon, but yes, only six athletes have made it into the top 40 at least once and we're in this for like 20 years. Only Diana Rasimovičiūtė is no longer active. Can we have Karol Dombrovski back? He'd be an immediate upgrade for our men's team Col_Frost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,127 Posted November 28, 2020 #270 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Monzanator said: Can we have Karol Dombrovski back? He'd be an immediate upgrade for our men's team I don't think he was ever yours to begin with? Born and raised in Lithuania and did all his junior and senior races for Lithuania. Just because he has a Polish surname, doesn't mean you can claim him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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