Monzanator 3,569 Posted August 31, 2020 #11 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Maturity counts for little when it comes to soloists, it's obvious teenagers have a bigger chance of better results before they grow up into adult shape. What next? You will forbid skaters from doing quads before a certain age? What if someone commits suicide out of frustration of not being able to compete? Becoming a stripper at age 21 rather than 19 will solve the fake issue ISU is trying to create here (as related to Alexandrovskaya's "second life")? Like really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,418 Posted August 31, 2020 #12 Share Posted August 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, Monzanator said: I read this on a Polish website. Now I found an explanation and it's linked to Ekaterina Alexandrovskaya's death. A total overreaction indeed. Like people at age 25 can't commit suicides because they only participated in senior champs two years later than they could have. https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1097741/isu-to-discuss-figure-skating-age-limit It’s about athletes being mature enough both physically and mentally. Figure Skating has one of the harshest athlete cultures out there. Some of the girls aren’t even in secondary/high school before competing at a high level internationally. I can’t imagine that honestly. It’s one thing for a coach to be harsh and push an adult athlete, but a completely different thing for them to do it to a 12, 13, 14, 15 year old athlete. Plus, it’s not just Alexandrovskaya we’ve seen struggle with her mental either post career, or even during. I could list off multiple skaters who have had serious mental health conditions because of what they went through in figure skating. We’re taking suicide attempts, purposeful harm, anorexia, depression, etc. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,569 Posted August 31, 2020 #13 Share Posted August 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said: It’s about athletes being mature enough both physically and mentally. Figure Skating has one of the harshest athlete cultures out there. Some of the girls aren’t even in secondary/high school before competing at a high level internationally. I can’t imagine that honestly. It’s one thing for a coach to be harsh and push an adult athlete, but a completely different thing for them to do it to a 12, 13, 14, 15 year old athlete. Plus, it’s not just Alexandrovskaya we’ve seen struggle with her mental either post career, or even during. I could list off multiple skaters who have had serious mental health conditions because of what they went through in figure skating. We’re taking suicide attempts, purposeful harm, anorexia, depression, etc. That's the price of taking up a sport which starts at such a young age. Everyone knows teenagers thrive for group approval among their peers, it's a case of psychology and ISU raising the minimum age ain't gonna solve any issues here. Alexandrovskaya was mentioned specifically here so so other "multiple skaters" don't really count at this stage. Speaking of suicides, what's up with the John Coughlin sexual harrassement case? Was anything done to make it clear whether he was guilty or not or was the case swept under the carpet after he killed himself? mrv86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,172 Posted August 31, 2020 Author #14 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said: It’s about athletes being mature enough both physically and mentally. Figure Skating has one of the harshest athlete cultures out there. Some of the girls aren’t even in secondary/high school before competing at a high level internationally. I can’t imagine that honestly. And yet you are all for 10-year olds doing break-neck stuff in skateboarding? #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 13,130 Posted September 9, 2020 #15 Share Posted September 9, 2020 The Olympic champion Alina Zagitova apparently decided to give priority to the reality show "Ice Age" than to the September pre-season testing event of the national team. "I want to try new things and I asked the federation to accept it," Zagitova said to TASS. The federation leadership apparently accepted and released her from the upcomming tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EupenM 149 Posted September 29, 2020 #16 Share Posted September 29, 2020 French skaters Morgan Ciprès and Vanessa James, crowned European champions in 2019 and bronze medalists at the worlds in 2018 in pairs, have decided to put an end to their careers, announces the French ice sports federation (FFSG) in a statement Tuesday. dcro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,172 Posted October 4, 2020 Author #17 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Well, apparently the Grand Prix season this year will be a series of glorified national championships... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Skate_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Skate_Canada_International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Cup_of_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Internationaux_de_France https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Rostelecom_Cup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_NHK_Trophy You read it correctly. NHK Trophy will indeed have 12 Japanese girls in the ladies event. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,172 Posted October 14, 2020 Author #18 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Skate Canada got cancelled. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,172 Posted October 15, 2020 Author #19 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Jari Kessler changed allegiance to . It will be interesting to see if he could give us a bit of international spotlight. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EupenM 149 Posted October 19, 2020 #20 Share Posted October 19, 2020 The ISU was informed of the cancellation of the ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating – Internationaux de France, that was scheduled to take place from November 13-15, 2020 in Grenoble (FRA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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