rafalgorka 1,375 Posted May 2, 2020 Author #251 Share Posted May 2, 2020 15 minut temu, OlympicsFan napisał: 1) Ok ... so if Mali wins the next Africa Cup, you will predict that they reach the top 3 of the next world cup ... ? All 4 european teams that qualified will 99 % field teams that will be clearly stronger than Egypt. Salah is a great player, but ... a) One player like him isn't enough b) Other nations could also nominate world-class players who are older than 23 2) How do you know the draw already? 3) France won't even make the semifinal despite having clearly the best talent pool of all teams? 4) I didn't say anything about womens canoeing sprint, because i don't follow women's canoeing sprint, so i have no idea who will be the medal contenders. I made a kind of prediction of draw at the beginning of this thread ;-) French football teams tend to implode in the tournaments, even if they look good on paper. RSA 2010, e.g. Anyway, we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,375 Posted May 2, 2020 Author #252 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 minutę temu, OlympicsFan napisał: Sadly i think that Wild win at least medal in women's omnium. Why sadly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 783 Posted May 2, 2020 #253 Share Posted May 2, 2020 2 hours ago, rafalgorka said: TOKYO 2020 MEDAL TABLE AFTER DAY 16 Sunday 339/339 UNITED STATES 47-39-27 113 CHINA 44-16-24 84 RUSSIA 23-24-23 70 JAPAN 22-17-17 56 NETHERLANDS 16-14-8 38 AUSTRALIA 13-17-14 44 GREAT BRITAIN 13-15-22 50 GERMANY 13-10-24 47 FRANCE 12-9-13 34 KOREA REPUBLIC 9-6-7 22 NEW ZEALAND 9-4-3 16 HUNGARY 8-6-3 17 BRAZIL 7-3-9 19 TURKEY 6-2-7 15 CUBA 6-2-4 12 KENYA 5-4-3 12 ITALY 4-17-14 35 SPAIN 4-11-12 27 CANADA 4-5-10 19 UKRAINE 4-4-11 19 CHINESE TAIPEI 4-3-1 8 POLAND 3-8-11 22 SWEDEN 3-6-4 13 JAMAICA 3-6-3 12 IRELAND 3-2-2 7 CZECH REPUBLIC 3-1-4 8 UZBEKISTAN 3-0-6 9 GEORGIA 3-0-2 5 DENMARK 2-6-2 10 KOREA DPR 2-5-0 7 ETHIOPIA 2-4-2 8 SLOVENIA 2-4-0 6 SWITZERLAND 2-3-2 7 CROATIA 2-2-4 8 AZERBAIJAN 2-2-3 7 BELGIUM 2-2-3 7 NORWAY 2-2-1 5 PHILIPPINES 2-2-0 4 IRAN 2-1-5 8 QATAR 2-0-1 3 SLOVAKIA 2-0-0 2 INDIA 1-6-8 15 SERBIA 1-5-5 11 BELARUS 1-5-3 9 ROMANIA 1-4-2 7 GREECE 1-2-2 5 INDONESIA 1-2-0 3 ARMENIA 1-1-2 4 ECUADOR 1-1-1 3 BAHAMAS 1-1-0 2 THAILAND 1-1-0 2 UGANDA 1-1-0 2 ISRAEL 1-0-4 5 ESTONIA 1-0-3 4 MOROCCO 1-0-2 3 BAHRAIN 1-0-1 2 LITHUANIA 1-0-1 2 VENEZUELA 1-0-1 2 FIJI 1-0-0 1 KYRGYZSTAN 1-0-0 1 KAZAKHSTAN 0-4-7 11 COLOMBIA 0-2-5 7 PORTUGAL 0-2-5 7 BULGARIA 0-2-2 4 ARGENTINA 0-2-1 3 MALAYSIA 0-2-1 3 CHILE 0-2-0 2 AUSTRIA 0-1-5 6 HONG KONG 0-1-3 4 EGYPT 0-1-2 3 NIGERIA 0-1-2 3 ALGERIA 0-1-1 2 CYPRUS 0-1-0 1 FINLAND 0-1-0 1 GRENADA 0-1-0 1 PERU 0-1-0 1 SAN MARINO 0-1-0 1 MEXICO 0-0-5 5 IVORY COAST 0-0-3 3 KOSOVO 0-0-3 3 SOUTH AFRICA 0-0-3 3 BANGLADESH 0-0-1 1 BOSNIA HERZEGOVINA 0-0-1 1 DOMINICAN REP. 0-0-1 1 MOLDOVA 0-0-1 1 MONGOLIA 0-0-1 1 NORTH MACEDONIA 0-0-1 1 SYRIA 0-0-1 1 I think the Netherlands and especially India would be super happy. India would probably declare a national holiday ... Not so sure about France, Japan and GB though ... For Germany it would be a decent result. On the one hand "we" should do much better in swimming and athletics than in 2016, on the other hand it would be a miracle if "we" could repeat our great performances in shooting and canoeing sprint. Germany hasn't won a swimming (gold) medal since 2008, so it would be great if Wellbrock could make it happen. Swimming, athletics and track cycling are the sports i care most about at the olympics, so i hope that Germany will do good there. From a german perspective i also hope that ... a) At least one german team (handball/hockey) will reach a final b) At least one german athlete will fight for gold in the individual jumping event till the last round c) At least one german athlete/team will fight for a medal in fencing d) At least one german woman will reach the balance beam final e) At least one german athlete/double will reach a tennis final rafalgorka 1 Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 783 Posted May 2, 2020 #254 Share Posted May 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, rafalgorka said: I made a kind of prediction of draw at the beginning of this thread ;-) French football teams tend to implode in the tournaments, even if they look good on paper. RSA 2010, e.g. Anyway, we will see. Or 2018 Russia ... Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 783 Posted May 2, 2020 #255 Share Posted May 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, rafalgorka said: Why sadly? I am not a fan of her and dutch sports (espcially cycling) in general. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,375 Posted May 2, 2020 Author #256 Share Posted May 2, 2020 16 minut temu, OlympicsFan napisał: I think the Netherlands and especially India would be super happy. India would probably declare a national holiday ... Not so sure about France, Japan and GB though ... For Germany it would be a decent result. On the one hand "we" should do much better in swimming and athletics than in 2016, on the other hand it would be a miracle if "we" could repeat our great performances in shooting and canoeing sprint. Germany hasn't won a swimming (gold) medal since 2008, so it would be great if Wellbrock could make it happen. Swimming, athletics and track cycling are the sports i care most about at the olympics, so i hope that Germany will do good there. From a german perspective i also hope that ... a) At least one german team (handball/hockey) will reach a final b) At least one german athlete will fight for gold in the individual jumping event till the last round c) At least one german athlete/team will fight for a medal in fencing d) At least one german woman will reach the balance beam final e) At least one german athlete/double will reach a tennis final Swimming and athletics - me, too. I don't know much about track cycling. Never tried to watch it carefully yet. But I will try. I watch road racing much more. It was nice discussion with you through all these days - you are obviously an expert here. Have a good weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 13,246 Posted May 2, 2020 #257 Share Posted May 2, 2020 19 hours ago, rafalgorka said: CANOE SPRINT – Men Kayak Four 500m GERMANY SPAIN PORTUGAL I sincerely hope you´ll be wrong rafalgorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,199 Posted May 2, 2020 #258 Share Posted May 2, 2020 hace 6 horas, OlympicsFan dijo: Great insight ... so the predictions we make 1 week before the games will matter how? Of course a lot can happen, but you can say the same about any sport. What if the NBA will boycott the games? Would the US still be favorites for gold? By that logic we shouldn't make any predictions before the games. No, we can't say the same about every sport. In women's football we know perfectly well that all teams will take their best available players. Of course we can make a much better prediction for it compared to men's. Same with a lot of other sports.. volleyball, handball, rowing, canoeing, etc. On the other hand there is sports like Men's football, men's basketball, baseball, tennis, golf, etc with more uncertainty of who will show up as a start. But you already know all this, I don't know why you found my statement controversial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 3,572 Posted May 2, 2020 #259 Share Posted May 2, 2020 4th August Spoiler Athletics - Women's Long Jump Mihambo Beck-Romanchuk Reese Athletics - Men's 400m Hurdles Warlhom Benjamin Samba Canoe Sprint - Women's K1 200m Jorgensen Carrington Walczykiewicz Canoe Sprint - Men's C2 1000m China Germany Poland Canoe Sprint - Men's K1 1000m Kopasz Pimenta Dostal Canoe Sprint - Women's K2 500m Belarus Hungary New Zealand Boxe - Women's -57kg Voronstona Pateicio Yu Petrova Sailing - Men's Finn Junior Scott Berecz Sailing - Mixed Nacra Australia Italy Great Britain Diving - Men's 3m Springboard Cao Xie Laugher Track Cycling - Men's Team Sprint Great Britain Netherland France Track Cycling - Women's Team Pursuit United States Great Britain New Zealand Artistic Gymnastics - Men's Uneven Bars Zou Vernaiaiev Dalaloyan Artistic Gymnastics - Women's Balance Beam Biles Liu Lu Artistic Gymnastics - Men's Horizontal Bar Zonderland Miyachi Mariano Boxe - Men's -69kg Zamkovoc McCormack Ozakawa Baturov Wrestling - Men's GR -77kg Loroncz Garaev Chalyan Liack Wrestling - Men's GR -97kg Evloev Ildem Snyder Sharifov Wrestling - Women's -68kg Mensah Cherkasova Dosho Kakran Athletics - Men's Pole Vault Duplantis Kendrick Lavillenie Athletics - Women's Hammer Throw Wang Fodorov Price Athletics - Women's 800m Wilson Nakaay Rogers Athletics - Women's 200m Asher-Smith Thompson Miller Uibo Weightlifting - Men's -109kg Martirosoyan :BLR Aramnau :UZB Djuraev rafalgorka and bmo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,214 Posted May 2, 2020 #260 Share Posted May 2, 2020 @Gianlu33 it will be the biggest surprise in the history of Olympic wrestling if Snyder and Sharifov win medals in Greco-Roman I know it's impossible to have knowledge about all sports but taking a look at @rafalgorka predictions, at least in wrestling it's almost copy/paste of 2019 results. we had some surprise winners (specially bronze medalists) mostly because the draw was rigged (yes it was) to help Kazakhstani wrestlers, therefore some lucky wrestlers won some medals they couldn't even dream about. likes of Nurov, Deng and that Swiss guy only can win medal with a super easy draw like that. this is my prediction for freestyle . but remember this is for August 2020, (if they wouldn't postpone the Games) , my prediction for 2021 is different. some youngsters will catch up with big names soon. and I also didn't consider ranking and seedings, because for example Uguev and Ravi are currently 1st and 4th in WR, with no more ranking event left (the last one being cancelled), they were supposed to meet before the final. 57kg: 1) Uguev 2) Ravi 3) Atli and Higuchi 65kg: 1) Rashidov 2) Otoguro 3) Aliyev and Bajrang 74kg: 1) Burroughs 2) Sidakov 3) Chamizo and Kentchadze 86kg: 1) Yazdani 2) Taylor 3) Naifonov and Shabanov 97kg: 1) Sadulaev 2) Mohammadian 3) Snyder and Sharifov 125kg: 1) Petriashvili 2) Akgul 3) Zare and Khotsianivskyi * I really had a hard time to pick a 4th guy for 86kg. I think there are something like 10 wrestlers more or less in the same level. rafalgorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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