Grassmarket 2,715 Posted July 4, 2021 #181 Share Posted July 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, dharang said: I agree with Olympian 1010 here, shooting is now watchable on television, unlike my old hobby-horse, modern pentathlon... :D :D A question for those involved with CWG issues: is the removal of shooting and archery only for this edition or is it permanent? As I am not familiar with the venues I don't know how credible is the explanation that there are no suitable venues In the CG there are core sports that must be presented & others that can be rotated in & out depending on the hosts’ choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitinsanker 179 Posted July 4, 2021 #182 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Nickyc707 said: Is there a single lie that you will not tell? "This is clearly aimed at an unsportsmanlike thwarting of sports they do badly at ( and India does wellat ) ........." 2002 British shooters won 24 medals Indian shooters won 24 medals 2006 British 26 Indian 27 2010 British 30 Indian 30 2014 British 20 Indian 17 2018 British 22 Indian 16 Total British 122 Indian 114 The numbers demonstrate categorically that the absence of shooting does not benefit the British teams at the expense of India. If anything it is the other way around as India's performance has declined. Are you trying to suggest Britain is as good as India in shooting ....... Any person in this forum would laugh at you sadly GB is a very good olympic nation and on maybe 30 out of the 33 olympic sports you would be right first let us look at the world cup tally Overall Medal Tally (ISSF World Cup 2019) Rank Nation Gold Silver Bronze Total 1 India (IND) 16 4 2 22 2 China (CHN) 8 13 15 36 3 United States (USA) 5 4 1 10 4 Russia (RUS) 4 5 3 12 5 Hungary (HUN) 4 1 1 6 6 Croatia (CRO) 3 2 0 5 7 Australia (AUS) 3 1 4 8 8 Italy (ITA) 2 2 6 10 9 Germany (GER) 2 1 1 4 10 Czech Republic (CZE) 2 0 1 3 India 1 and Britain no where in the top 10 ....... so exposed .that britain and India are anywhere close in shooting ........ Lie 1 exposed ....... Then how does Britain get 22 medals versus Indias 16.......... by cheating and using all the clever tricks department 1. TRICK 1 ....... split yourself into 6 different countries during the commonwealth games - England , wales scotland , NI , Guernsey , jersey , isle of man etc ..... so when india gets to send 2 shooters per event , you get to send 12 shooters ....... very even 2. Use a non standard program with weird sports like queens prize ( 2 events ) - which no one has ever heard of outside Britain probably while not using standard events of the olympic program like pairs mixed which India is good at So anyway if you believe that you guys are as good as India look to the olympics ............ And I bet you the kohinoor that we will do better than you at shooting Whoops you have already cheated us of the kohinoor strength does not come from physical capacity but from an indomitable will. - Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitinsanker 179 Posted July 4, 2021 #183 Share Posted July 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, Grassmarket said: In the CG there are core sports that must be presented & others that can be rotated in & out depending on the hosts’ choice. well as the money is paid by Uk for the commonwealth and you control the board primarily from UK ( 7 out of 14 executive positions ........ and you wrote the rules......... It cannot be expected that britain would do anything but self aggrandise itself and try to show its supremacy in the sporting arena but do try to say you are fair ....... Designation Name Country Vice-Patron Prince Edward United Kingdom President Dame Louise Martin Scotland Vice-Presidents Mr. Bruce Robertson Canada Mr. Chris Jenkins Wales Ms. Kereyn Smith New Zealand Regional Vice-Presidents Africa Mrs. Miriam Moyo Zambia Americas Ms. Judy Simons Bermuda Asia Mr. Chris Chan Singapore Caribbean Mrs. Fortuna Belrose Saint Lucia Europe Mr. Harry Murphy Gibraltar Oceania Mr. Hugh Graham Cook Islands Birmingham 2022 Representative Mr. Ian Metcalfe England CEO Legal Advisor Ms. Sandra Osborne Barbados Athlete Representative Ms. Rhona Toft Scotland strength does not come from physical capacity but from an indomitable will. - Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolby 712 Posted July 4, 2021 #184 Share Posted July 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Nickyc707 said: Except of course there aren't more medals for lawn bowls than shooting and the CWG isn't intended to be a replica of the OG which is why it includes non-Olympic sports just as the Asian Games does. Shooting has zero medals in CWG 2022. Lawn bowls has less medals than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajiv 25 Posted July 4, 2021 #185 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I think India will get quite a shock how few medals they will win in Tokyo . I'm certainly not wishing this but performance in secondary events in non mainstream sports is a very poor indicator of Olympic performance . Some relatively unknown competitor from one of the Big Gun nations often appears and wins -all they care about are the Olympics not the world cup circuit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,418 Posted August 15, 2021 #186 Share Posted August 15, 2021 has been awarded a quota place in women’s cricket. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicIRL 4,756 Posted August 15, 2021 #187 Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 8:44 AM, nitinsanker said: So anyway if you believe that you guys are as good as India look to the olympics ............ And I bet you the kohinoor that we will do better than you at shooting I think you lost that bet JamDH, Nickyc707, Cobi and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHI2019 188 Posted September 8, 2021 #188 Share Posted September 8, 2021 The competition schedule for the 2022 Commonwealth Games is out: https://images.birmingham2022.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/B2022-CompetitionSchedule-Sep2021-1.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitinsanker 179 Posted September 16, 2021 #189 Share Posted September 16, 2021 The president of the Indian Olympic Association (IOA) Narinder Batra said on Friday that the participation of India’s hockey teams in next year’s Commonwealth Games is ‘doubtful’. Batra, who is the chief of the International Hockey Federation (FIH) and was a former Hockey India president, said the Indian hockey teams' priority is to achieve their peak at the Asian Games, which starts just 35 days after the CWG. The Birmingham CWG is scheduled to be held from July 28 to August 8, while the Asian Games will be hosted by Hangzhou, China from September 10 to 15. Looks like India is losing interest in 2022 commonwealth games ..... This is in part due to the issues we have had with shooting I think because batra was talking about a boycott earlier after the shooting imbroglio strength does not come from physical capacity but from an indomitable will. - Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickyc707 305 Posted September 16, 2021 #190 Share Posted September 16, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 8:44 AM, nitinsanker said: Are you trying to suggest Britain is as good as India in shooting ....... Any person in this forum would laugh at you sadly GB is a very good olympic nation and on maybe 30 out of the 33 olympic sports you would be right first let us look at the world cup tally Overall Medal Tally (ISSF World Cup 2019) Rank Nation Gold Silver Bronze Total 1 India (IND) 16 4 2 22 2 China (CHN) 8 13 15 36 3 United States (USA) 5 4 1 10 4 Russia (RUS) 4 5 3 12 5 Hungary (HUN) 4 1 1 6 6 Croatia (CRO) 3 2 0 5 7 Australia (AUS) 3 1 4 8 8 Italy (ITA) 2 2 6 10 9 Germany (GER) 2 1 1 4 10 Czech Republic (CZE) 2 0 1 3 India 1 and Britain no where in the top 10 ....... so exposed .that britain and India are anywhere close in shooting ........ Lie 1 exposed ....... Then how does Britain get 22 medals versus Indias 16.......... by cheating and using all the clever tricks department 1. TRICK 1 ....... split yourself into 6 different countries during the commonwealth games - England , wales scotland , NI , Guernsey , jersey , isle of man etc ..... so when india gets to send 2 shooters per event , you get to send 12 shooters ....... very even 2. Use a non standard program with weird sports like queens prize ( 2 events ) - which no one has ever heard of outside Britain probably while not using standard events of the olympic program like pairs mixed which India is good at So anyway if you believe that you guys are as good as India look to the olympics ............ And I bet you the kohinoor that we will do better than you at shooting Whoops you have already cheated us of the kohinoor Your origanal argument was that shooting was left out of the CWG because India is so much more successful at the Games than British shooters. I demonstrated this was not true so you then moved on to World Cups and the OG neither of which I mentioned, although you falsely assert that I was claiming that Britain's shooters were better than India's. In any event, after Tokyo, perhaps you will be a little more careful in your assertions about India's stature as a shooting nation generally having won even fewer medals thsn GB. As for the CWG shooting programme in 2018 it was almost identical to that of the previous OG in Rio. The only additions were a women's double trap event to provide gender equality plus the two fullbore rifle shooting events. You don't seem to like this weapon although I believe it is closest to those used by the military and should suit Indian competitors given the vast size of its army. Your claim that "standard" events were left out of the CWG programme is once again patently false. Every OG event from 2016 was included in the CWG in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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